On my new HP 15s-eq2147, because of the lack of an ethernet connection, installing Leap 15.3 from openSUSE-Leap-15.3-NET-x86_64.iso was impossible. So, I had to use openSUSE-Leap-15.3-DVD-x86_64.iso, which does not use internet repositories. Installing was easy and much faster than from the net, but at the end, KDE did not appear. Pressing F7 shows a black screen only. Then I tried "startx", but in vain. I have stored the output on http://ariannuccia.de/temp/startx.txt and the content of ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log on http://ariannuccia.de/temp/Xorg.0.log. Please have a look at these two files. Do they contain information for correcting the KDE implementation? Meanwhile I have access to the internet, thanks to Stephan Hemeier's rtw88-kmp-default-git20210702_k5.3.18_57-lp153.2.2.x86_64.rpm, but I don't know which package to install for making KDE run. Thanks in advance, Wolfgang
On 11/07/2021 14.18, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
On my new HP 15s-eq2147, because of the lack of an ethernet connection, installing Leap 15.3 from openSUSE-Leap-15.3-NET-x86_64.iso was impossible. So, I had to use openSUSE-Leap-15.3-DVD-x86_64.iso, which does not use internet repositories.
Of course it uses internet repositories, but your network was not working.
Installing was easy and much faster than from the net, but at the end, KDE did not appear. Pressing F7 shows a black screen only.
What did you install, if not KDE? Because as far as I know, the DVD has both KDE and Gnome.
Then I tried "startx", but in vain. I have stored the output on http://ariannuccia.de/temp/startx.txt
No video found. Your problem is not KDE, it is no graphic support. Basics. What video hardware do you have? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS Leap 15.1 x86_64 (Minas Tirith))
On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 14:34:55 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 11/07/2021 14.18, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
On my new HP 15s-eq2147, because of the lack of an ethernet connection, installing Leap 15.3 from openSUSE-Leap-15.3-NET-x86_64.iso was impossible. So, I had to use openSUSE-Leap-15.3-DVD-x86_64.iso, which does not use internet repositories.
Of course it uses internet repositories, but your network was not working.
Installing was easy and much faster than from the net, but at the end, KDE did not appear. Pressing F7 shows a black screen only.
What did you install, if not KDE? Because as far as I know, the DVDs has both KDE and Gnome.
And even more "System Roles", but I chose the first one, which is called "Desktop with KDE Plasma".
Then I tried "startx", but in vain. I have stored the output on http://ariannuccia.de/temp/startx.txt
No video found.
Your problem is not KDE, it is no graphic support. Basics.
So you think that even with a NET installation KDE would not work? More and more you convince me to return the laptop to the store...
What video hardware do you have?
How can I find that out? Best Regards, Wolfgang
On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 15:17:11 +0200, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 14:34:55 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
[...] What video hardware do you have?
How can I find that out?
This is the result returned by "hwinfo --monitor": 34: None 00.0: 10000 Monitor [Created at fb.71] Unique ID: rdCR.EY_qmtb9YY0 Hardware Class: monitor Model: "Generic Monitor" Vendor: "Generic" Device: "Monitor" Resolution: 1024x768@76Hz Year of Manufacture: 0 Week of Manufacture: 0 Driver Info #0: Max. Resolution: 1024x768 Vert. Sync Range: 50-90 Hz Hor. Sync Range: 31-61 kHz Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Very poor information, IMHO. Best Regards, Wolfgang
On 11/07/2021 16.00, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 15:17:11 +0200, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 14:34:55 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
[...] What video hardware do you have?
How can I find that out?
This is the result returned by "hwinfo --monitor":
You need: hwinfo --gfxcard instead -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS Leap 15.1 x86_64 (Minas Tirith))
On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 17:16:33 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 11/07/2021 16.00, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 15:17:11 +0200, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 14:34:55 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
[...] What video hardware do you have?
How can I find that out?
This is the result returned by "hwinfo --monitor":
You need:
hwinfo --gfxcard
instead No problem:
07: PCI 300.0: 0300 VGA compatible controller (VGA) [Created at pci.386] Unique ID: svHJ.xFKYcnxD5UF Parent ID: JZZT.e+TNXSUNut3 SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:08.1/0000:03:00.0 SysFS BusID: 0000:03:00.0 Hardware Class: graphics card Device Name: "Onboard IGD" Model: "ATI VGA compatible controller" Vendor: pci 0x1002 "ATI Technologies Inc" Device: pci 0x164c SubVendor: pci 0x103c "Hewlett-Packard Company" SubDevice: pci 0x887a Revision: 0xc2 Memory Range: 0xd0000000-0xdfffffff (ro,non-prefetchable) Memory Range: 0xe0000000-0xe01fffff (ro,non-prefetchable) I/O Ports: 0xe000-0xefff (rw,disabled) Memory Range: 0xfcd00000-0xfcd7ffff (rw,non-prefetchable) IRQ: 255 (no events) Module Alias: "pci:v00001002d0000164Csv0000103Csd0000887Abc03sc00i00" Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #21 (PCI bridge) Primary display adapter: #7 --------------------------------------------------------------- Best regards, Wolfgang
On 11/07/2021 15.17, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
So you think that even with a NET installation KDE would not work? More and more you convince me to return the laptop to the store...
It really is a good idea to google the prospective model to find out if it works easily on Linux. Or, as some people do, take a live USB distro to the store and boot it right there. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from oS Leap 15.1 x86_64 (Minas Tirith))
On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 17:24:32 +0200 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 11/07/2021 15.17, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
So you think that even with a NET installation KDE would not work? More and more you convince me to return the laptop to the store...
It really is a good idea to google the prospective model to find out if it works easily on Linux. Or, as some people do, take a live USB distro to the store and boot it right there.
There are people making linux-friendly machines. In UK, for example, Entroware are good, in the US, System76. I don't know about continental Europe but I'd be surprised if there isn't a company doing it there as well. I am a satisfied customer of Entroware. -- Bob Williams System: Linux 5.3.18-lp152.50-default Desktop: KDE Frameworks: 5.71.0, Qt: 5.12.7 and Plasma: 5.18.5 https://useplaintext.email/
On 11/07/2021 20:17, Bob Williams wrote:
There are people making linux-friendly machines. In UK, for example, Entroware are good, in the US, System76. I don't know about continental Europe but I'd be surprised if there isn't a company doing it there as well.
I am a satisfied customer of Entroware.
Two of the most prominent European suppliers are Tuxedo Computers in Germany and Slimbook in Spain. The former has had some degree of partnership with openSUSE, which is available as an install option. gumb
On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 19:17:53 +0100 Bob Williams <usenet@karmasailing.uk> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 17:24:32 +0200 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 11/07/2021 15.17, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
So you think that even with a NET installation KDE would not work? More and more you convince me to return the laptop to the store...
It really is a good idea to google the prospective model to find out if it works easily on Linux. Or, as some people do, take a live USB distro to the store and boot it right there.
There are people making linux-friendly machines. In UK, for example, Entroware are good, in the US, System76. I don't know about continental Europe but I'd be surprised if there isn't a company doing it there as well.
I am a satisfied customer of Entroware.
At a quick glance, Entroware looks to be quite expensive.
On 11.07.2021 15:18, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
On my new HP 15s-eq2147, because of the lack of an ethernet connection, installing Leap 15.3 from openSUSE-Leap-15.3-NET-x86_64.iso was impossible. So, I had to use openSUSE-Leap-15.3-DVD-x86_64.iso, which does not use internet repositories.
Installing was easy and much faster than from the net, but at the end, KDE did not appear. Pressing F7 shows a black screen only.
Then I tried "startx", but in vain. I have stored the output on http://ariannuccia.de/temp/startx.txt
and the content of ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log on http://ariannuccia.de/temp/Xorg.0.log.
[ 892.747] (--) PCI:*(3@0:0:0) 1002:164c:103c:887a rev 194, Mem @ 0xd0000000/268435456, 0xe0000000/2097152, 0xfcd00000/524288, I/O @ 0x0000e000/256 This is AMD Renoir. As far as I know /some/ support for it is present since kernel 5.11. It is not listed as supported device by Leap 15.3 kernel. You will get non-accelerated framebuffer GUI using nomodeset kernel parameter. You may try kernel from Kernel:stable:Backport (which is currently on 5.13.1). It should support your WiFi and it /may/ support your graphic card. But if you have such problems getting Linux running on this notebook, you should really consider returning it and getting something more Linux friendly.
Please have a look at these two files. Do they contain information for correcting the KDE implementation?
Meanwhile I have access to the internet, thanks to Stephan Hemeier's rtw88-kmp-default-git20210702_k5.3.18_57-lp153.2.2.x86_64.rpm, but I don't know which package to install for making KDE run.
Thanks in advance, Wolfgang
On 11.07.2021 16:37, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 11.07.2021 15:18, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
On my new HP 15s-eq2147, because of the lack of an ethernet connection, installing Leap 15.3 from openSUSE-Leap-15.3-NET-x86_64.iso was impossible. So, I had to use openSUSE-Leap-15.3-DVD-x86_64.iso, which does not use internet repositories.
Installing was easy and much faster than from the net, but at the end, KDE did not appear. Pressing F7 shows a black screen only.
Then I tried "startx", but in vain. I have stored the output on http://ariannuccia.de/temp/startx.txt
and the content of ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log on http://ariannuccia.de/temp/Xorg.0.log.
[ 892.747] (--) PCI:*(3@0:0:0) 1002:164c:103c:887a rev 194, Mem @ 0xd0000000/268435456, 0xe0000000/2097152, 0xfcd00000/524288, I/O @ 0x0000e000/256
This is AMD Renoir. As far as I know /some/ support for it is present since kernel 5.11. It is not listed as supported device by Leap 15.3 kernel.
Actually this specific device is first listed as supported in kernel 5.12.
You will get non-accelerated framebuffer GUI using nomodeset kernel parameter. You may try kernel from Kernel:stable:Backport (which is currently on 5.13.1). It should support your WiFi and it /may/ support your graphic card.
But if you have such problems getting Linux running on this notebook, you should really consider returning it and getting something more Linux friendly.
Please have a look at these two files. Do they contain information for correcting the KDE implementation?
Meanwhile I have access to the internet, thanks to Stephan Hemeier's rtw88-kmp-default-git20210702_k5.3.18_57-lp153.2.2.x86_64.rpm, but I don't know which package to install for making KDE run.
Thanks in advance, Wolfgang
On 7/11/21 9:50 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 11.07.2021 16:37, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 11.07.2021 15:18, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
On my new HP 15s-eq2147, because of the lack of an ethernet connection, installing Leap 15.3 from openSUSE-Leap-15.3-NET-x86_64.iso was impossible. So, I had to use openSUSE-Leap-15.3-DVD-x86_64.iso, which does not use internet repositories.
Installing was easy and much faster than from the net, but at the end, KDE did not appear. Pressing F7 shows a black screen only.
Then I tried "startx", but in vain. I have stored the output on http://ariannuccia.de/temp/startx.txt
and the content of ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log on http://ariannuccia.de/temp/Xorg.0.log.
[ 892.747] (--) PCI:*(3@0:0:0) 1002:164c:103c:887a rev 194, Mem @ 0xd0000000/268435456, 0xe0000000/2097152, 0xfcd00000/524288, I/O @ 0x0000e000/256
This is AMD Renoir. As far as I know /some/ support for it is present since kernel 5.11. It is not listed as supported device by Leap 15.3 kernel.
Actually this specific device is first listed as supported in kernel 5.12.
Supported on kernel 5.11 in Ubuntu 21.04 and Fedora 34 . . . --dg
On 7/11/21 3:23 PM, DennisG wrote:
On 7/11/21 9:50 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 11.07.2021 16:37, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 11.07.2021 15:18, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
On my new HP 15s-eq2147, because of the lack of an ethernet connection, installing Leap 15.3 from openSUSE-Leap-15.3-NET-x86_64.iso was impossible. So, I had to use openSUSE-Leap-15.3-DVD-x86_64.iso, which does not use internet repositories.
Installing was easy and much faster than from the net, but at the end, KDE did not appear. Pressing F7 shows a black screen only.
Then I tried "startx", but in vain. I have stored the output on http://ariannuccia.de/temp/startx.txt
and the content of ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log on http://ariannuccia.de/temp/Xorg.0.log.
[ 892.747] (--) PCI:*(3@0:0:0) 1002:164c:103c:887a rev 194, Mem @ 0xd0000000/268435456, 0xe0000000/2097152, 0xfcd00000/524288, I/O @ 0x0000e000/256
This is AMD Renoir. As far as I know /some/ support for it is present since kernel 5.11. It is not listed as supported device by Leap 15.3 kernel.
Actually this specific device is first listed as supported in kernel 5.12.
Supported on kernel 5.11 in Ubuntu 21.04 and Fedora 34 . . .
--dg
There is a 5.12 kernel for 15.3 that is available from the OBS ("Community"), which supports the graphics integrated on your Ryzen chip. You would need to install it with zypper from a terminal. There is a good chance this will work, but I think it should be confirmed by someone else here . . . so as root do: zypper addrepo https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dsterba:/kernel:/stable/15.... zypper refresh zypper install kernel-default Good luck. --dg
On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 16:47:26 -0400 DennisG <dwgallien@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/11/21 3:23 PM, DennisG wrote:
On 7/11/21 9:50 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 11.07.2021 16:37, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 11.07.2021 15:18, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
On my new HP 15s-eq2147, because of the lack of an ethernet connection, installing Leap 15.3 from openSUSE-Leap-15.3-NET-x86_64.iso was impossible. So, I had to use openSUSE-Leap-15.3-DVD-x86_64.iso, which does not use internet repositories.
Installing was easy and much faster than from the net, but at the end, KDE did not appear. Pressing F7 shows a black screen only.
Then I tried "startx", but in vain. I have stored the output on http://ariannuccia.de/temp/startx.txt
and the content of ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log on http://ariannuccia.de/temp/Xorg.0.log.
[ 892.747] (--) PCI:*(3@0:0:0) 1002:164c:103c:887a rev 194, Mem @ 0xd0000000/268435456, 0xe0000000/2097152, 0xfcd00000/524288, I/O @ 0x0000e000/256
This is AMD Renoir. As far as I know /some/ support for it is present since kernel 5.11. It is not listed as supported device by Leap 15.3 kernel.
Actually this specific device is first listed as supported in kernel 5.12.
Supported on kernel 5.11 in Ubuntu 21.04 and Fedora 34 . . .
--dg
There is a 5.12 kernel for 15.3 that is available from the OBS ("Community"), which supports the graphics integrated on your Ryzen chip.
You would need to install it with zypper from a terminal. There is a good chance this will work, but I think it should be confirmed by someone else here . . . so as root do:
zypper addrepo https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dsterba:/kernel:/stable/15.... zypper refresh zypper install kernel-default
At a guess, what Wolfgang wants is an up-to-date standard Leap installation that works with his hardware from a major manufacturer. Since it seems such a thing doesn't exist, he's faced with the possibility of swapping the hardware for something that does work, or changing distro to something that does support his hardware out of the box. My assumption is that he doesn't want bleeding-edge and he doesn't want to support an out-of-standard installation, he wants simplicity so he can get on with his life.
Good luck.
--dg
On 7/11/21 5:00 PM, Dave Howorth wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 16:47:26 -0400 DennisG <dwgallien@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/11/21 3:23 PM, DennisG wrote:
On 7/11/21 9:50 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 11.07.2021 16:37, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 11.07.2021 15:18, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
On my new HP 15s-eq2147, because of the lack of an ethernet connection, installing Leap 15.3 from openSUSE-Leap-15.3-NET-x86_64.iso was impossible. So, I had to use openSUSE-Leap-15.3-DVD-x86_64.iso, which does not use internet repositories.
Installing was easy and much faster than from the net, but at the end, KDE did not appear. Pressing F7 shows a black screen only.
Then I tried "startx", but in vain. I have stored the output on http://ariannuccia.de/temp/startx.txt
and the content of ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log on http://ariannuccia.de/temp/Xorg.0.log.
[ 892.747] (--) PCI:*(3@0:0:0) 1002:164c:103c:887a rev 194, Mem @ 0xd0000000/268435456, 0xe0000000/2097152, 0xfcd00000/524288, I/O @ 0x0000e000/256
This is AMD Renoir. As far as I know /some/ support for it is present since kernel 5.11. It is not listed as supported device by Leap 15.3 kernel.
Actually this specific device is first listed as supported in kernel 5.12.
Supported on kernel 5.11 in Ubuntu 21.04 and Fedora 34 . . .
--dg
There is a 5.12 kernel for 15.3 that is available from the OBS ("Community"), which supports the graphics integrated on your Ryzen chip.
You would need to install it with zypper from a terminal. There is a good chance this will work, but I think it should be confirmed by someone else here . . . so as root do:
zypper addrepo https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dsterba:/kernel:/stable/15.... zypper refresh zypper install kernel-default At a guess, what Wolfgang wants is an up-to-date standard Leap installation that works with his hardware from a major manufacturer.
Since it seems such a thing doesn't exist, he's faced with the possibility of swapping the hardware for something that does work, or changing distro to something that does support his hardware out of the box.
My assumption is that he doesn't want bleeding-edge and he doesn't want to support an out-of-standard installation, he wants simplicity so he can get on with his life.
Good luck.
--dg
Probably so, although that means making a third purchase. On the other hand, OP has already installed a patched wlan driver. Anyway, my post was not meant as a recommendation, only that there is an available solution. Other alternatives with out of the box support would be to install Tumbleweed (kernel 3.13), Ubuntu 21.04 or Fedora 34 (both 5.11 kernel). --dg
On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 22:47:26 +0200, DennisG wrote:
[...] There is a 5.12 kernel for 15.3 that is available from the OBS ("Community"), which supports the graphics integrated on your Ryzen chip.
You would need to install it with zypper from a terminal. There is a good chance this will work, but I think it should be confirmed by someone else here . . . so as root do:
zypper addrepo https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dsterba:/kernel:/stable/15....
zypper refresh zypper install kernel-default
Good luck.
Thank you a lot, Dennis! Your repository and your kernel-default have made it. Now KDE starts automatically on boot. I had already decided to bring back my new HP to the store, hoping they would accept it and refund me the price. And now, thanks to your kernel-default I can keep it. I'm so happy! Thanks again and good night, Wolfgang
On 7/11/21 6:46 PM, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 22:47:26 +0200, DennisG wrote:
[...] There is a 5.12 kernel for 15.3 that is available from the OBS ("Community"), which supports the graphics integrated on your Ryzen chip.
You would need to install it with zypper from a terminal. There is a good chance this will work, but I think it should be confirmed by someone else here . . . so as root do:
zypper addrepo https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dsterba:/kernel:/stable/15....
zypper refresh zypper install kernel-default
Good luck.
Thank you a lot, Dennis! Your repository and your kernel-default have made it. Now KDE starts automatically on boot.
I had already decided to bring back my new HP to the store, hoping they would accept it and refund me the price. And now, thanks to your kernel-default I can keep it. I'm so happy!
Thanks again and good night, Wolfgang
You're quite welcome, glad it worked for you! --dg
Am Sonntag, 11. Juli 2021, 14:18:06 CEST schrieb Wolfgang Mueller:
On my new HP 15s-eq2147, because of the lack of an ethernet connection, installing Leap 15.3 from openSUSE-Leap-15.3-NET-x86_64.iso was impossible. So, I had to use openSUSE-Leap-15.3-DVD-x86_64.iso, which does not use internet repositories.
Installing was easy and much faster than from the net, but at the end, KDE did not appear. Pressing F7 shows a black screen only.
Then I tried "startx", but in vain. I have stored the output on http://ariannuccia.de/temp/startx.txt
From my personal experience: For a laptop with current hardware you're likely to need tumbleweed. Leap is too "old-fashioned" due to the whole SLES compatibility. I had similar issues with a MSI Prestige 14 A11SCS which has an onboard Intel Iris XE graphics card plus a Geforce GTX 1650 Ti, and with Leap I had no X either. Now I have tumbleweed installed and everything works just fine... Cheers MH -- Mathias Homann Mathias.Homann@openSUSE.org Jabber (XMPP): lemmy@tuxonline.tech IRC: [Lemmy] on freenode and ircnet (bouncer active) telegram: https://telegram.me/lemmy98 keybase: https://keybase.io/lemmy gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102
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