does anybody have info on howto remaster SUSE PROF? Regards, Uriel_Carrasquilla@ncci.com NCCI Boca Raton, Florida 561.893.2415 greetings / avec mes meilleures salutations / Cordialmente mit freundlichen Grüßen / Med vänlig hälsning The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message.
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 06:26:24PM -0400, Uriel_Carrasquilla@ncci.com wrote:
does anybody have info on howto remaster SUSE PROF?
What do you mean with `remaster`? houghi -- The light at the end of the tunnel is the headlight of an approaching train.
houghi wrote:
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 06:26:24PM -0400, Uriel_Carrasquilla@ncci.com wrote:
does anybody have info on howto remaster SUSE PROF?
What do you mean with `remaster`?
houghi
One would asume that remastering would mean that.... adding, removing packages from the CD and editing the installers package list to match. Mike
El Martes, 23 de Agosto de 2005 01:25, Michael Honeyfield escribió:
houghi wrote:
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 06:26:24PM -0400, Uriel_Carrasquilla@ncci.com wrote:
does anybody have info on howto remaster SUSE PROF?
What do you mean with `remaster`?
houghi
One would asume that remastering would mean that.... adding, removing packages from the CD and editing the installers package list to match.
Just take a look at the thread "Merging the 4 Setup CDs into one DVD". All you need is there. http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2005-Aug/0233.html Basically, you may add/remove packages from suse/i586, suse/noarch and so. When you're done, run create_package_descr as described in that thread to update YaST package descriptions list. Creating the ISO image is also explained there. Editing the selections is easy: just open suse/setup/descr/something.sel and add/remove the package names from the list. If you don't know in which file a package might be, just use KFind or something like that. When it shows the list of results ignore "packages.*" and just take a look at "*.sel" if someone matches. You may also create/remove new selection files; in that case edit "suse/setup/descr/selections" and add/remove the file name (without path) of the selection file. The files are very self-descriptive so I think you won't need further explanation, but in case of doubt just ask. After you've made the final ISO image, you should attach an MD5 sum to it so that media check works properly. Take a look at /usr/share/doc/packages/checkmedia/README to see how to do that. -- Víctor Fernández Martínez Gabinete de prensa de PoLinux [www.polinux.upv.es]. Usuario de Linux registrado #312284 en http://counter.li.org.
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 03:27:10AM +0200, Víctor Fernández Martínez wrote:
You may also create/remove new selection files; in that case edit "suse/setup/descr/selections" and add/remove the file name (without path) of the selection file. The files are very self-descriptive so I think you won't need further explanation, but in case of doubt just ask.
I would love to make a complete new instalation in such a way that you only need the first CD for an instalation. I will see how far I will get with that and how workable it is. Will be a while before I will be finisched with that. If that is done, I will look what pages to have moved so you can have a working KDE on one CD. All needs to be still bootable as CD 1, so no extra CD is needed for those who are happy with minimal stuff. No idea if or when I will be ready with that, so if the SUSE people do this, that would be great. :-) houghi -- All other things being equal, a bald man cannot be elected President of the United States. -- Vic Gold
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 2:19 pm, in message <20050823021942.GC13271@penne>, houghi@houghi.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 03:27:10AM +0200, Víctor Fernández Martínez wrote: You may also create/remove new selection files; in that case edit "suse/setup/descr/selections" and add/remove the file name (without path) of
the selection file. The files are very self- descriptive so I think you won't need further explanation, but in case of doubt just ask.
I would love to make a complete new instalation in such a way that you only need the first CD for an instalation. I will see how far I will get with that and how workable it is.
I have done that in the past and it is something that I plan for SUPER.
Will be a while before I will be finisched with that.
If that is done, I will look what pages to have moved so you can have a working KDE on one CD.
I can probably get it done by the end of the week, if you can wait until then. Got a few other things todo first.
All needs to be still bootable as CD 1, so no extra CD is needed for those who are happy with minimal stuff. No idea if or when I will be ready with that, so if the SUSE people do this, that would be great. :- )
houghi
If you want to try here is how I have done it in the past do it in high level steps. Maybe I cannot remember a step, but I think overall this is how you get a 1CD install with modifications. Create an install you like with all packages you want and get rid of any package you do not want. Use that list of packages to create an autoyast.xml file. Create an autoyast.xml file that contains all those packages and not much else. Anything that is missing the installer will ask for anyhow. Create a Yast repository with those files. This will be the basis for your CD. Populate the yast repository on disc with all the additional directories of the iso #1 Put the autoyast.xml file onto the yast repository and modify the islinux.cfg to start that one with autoyast= Create the iso using mkisofs The xml file basically circumvents the installer asking for package categories. You could of course to do it properly edit those to suit your liking, but I did not need that in the past. Regards, Andreas openSUSE is SUPER: To help in the the SUSE Performance Enhanced Release project visit http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/SUPER
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 09:51:15PM -0600, Andreas Girardet wrote:
I have done that in the past and it is something that I plan for SUPER.
SUPER?
If that is done, I will look what pages to have moved so you can have a working KDE on one CD.
I can probably get it done by the end of the week, if you can wait until then. Got a few other things todo first.
No problems. It also is not something for me alone. It is more for everybody who wants to use SUSE.
If you want to try here is how I have done it in the past do it in high level steps. Maybe I cannot remember a step, but I think overall this is how you get a 1CD install with modifications.
Create an install you like with all packages you want and get rid of any package you do not want. Use that list of packages to create an autoyast.xml file. Create an autoyast.xml file that contains all those packages and not much else. Anything that is missing the installer will ask for anyhow. Create a Yast repository with those files. This will be the basis for your CD. Populate the yast repository on disc with all the additional directories of the iso #1 Put the autoyast.xml file onto the yast repository and modify the islinux.cfg to start that one with autoyast= Create the iso using mkisofs
The xml file basically circumvents the installer asking for package categories. You could of course to do it properly edit those to suit your liking, but I did not need that in the past.
Now if only SUSE/Novell would do such a thing and use that CD as the first CD, then people could do a workable instalation with 1 CD. What I have seen, the placing of the different files is semi, random. Each instalation needs several CD's and some for only a few packages. I can understand that this is something that has grown and there was never really a need to do it otherwise. My feelings are that on CD 1 a working KDE should be possible. Add CD 2 for Gnome (or the other way around) CD3, the servers, CD4 the games and CD5 the laguages. I am just trowing around ideas. Nothing definite. I asume and forgive me if I'm wrong, but now a *.sel is made and then a script looks on what CD this is. My feeling is that you must make a *.sel and then look if the selected packages can be put on as least CD's as possible. I am sure that this requres a LOT of puzzeling an making decisions of what not to include just so you can do this. If you just look at CD1 and what actually is not needed on a first CD. baekmuk? That should be on the CD with languages and fonts. I am sure that people who are much smarter and actually understand what each program does will be able to do this. Not for this version, I guess, but for the next, hopefully. houghi -- Drew's Law of Highway Biology: The first bug to hit a clean windshield lands directly in front of your eyes.
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 07:16:40AM +0200, houghi wrote:
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 09:51:15PM -0600, Andreas Girardet wrote:
I have done that in the past and it is something that I plan for SUPER.
SUPER?
Never mind. Found it: http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/10.0_beta2_i686_SUPER Just can't find my way to that on openSUSE or to any other project or how to start a project. I must be blind. houghi -- There was a young man named Crockett Whose balls got caught in a socket. His wife was a bitch, And she threw the switch, As Crockett went off like a rocket.
houghi schrieb:
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 07:16:40AM +0200, houghi wrote:
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 09:51:15PM -0600, Andreas Girardet wrote:
I have done that in the past and it is something that I plan for SUPER.
SUPER?
Never mind. Found it: http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/10.0_beta2_i686_SUPER
Just can't find my way to that on openSUSE or to any other project or how to start a project. I must be blind.
houghi
;) then you are not the onlyone. I found the SUPER-page only because I was looking at the lsit of changes in the Wiki-menu. and for my surprise again there is mutch more to find a read. but I didn't find a way where to start finding it at the Wiki. so my way at the last days was allways to have a look into the changes, and place bookmarks on some pages. but I think there must ne a "shorter way" to get deeper into the site ;)
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 07:38:17AM +0200, houghi wrote:
Never mind. Found it: http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/10.0_beta2_i686_SUPER
Just can't find my way to that on openSUSE or to any other project or how to start a project. I must be blind.
There's a list of user projects, including SUPER, at: http://www.opensuse.org/ -> Documentation -> End-User Documentation -> User projects But you're right, it rather well hidden. We could also linkt to it from the "Contribute" page. To start a project, just create a project page, describe the project, and find people interested in it ;-) cheers, Sonja -- Sonja Krause-Harder (skh@suse.de) Research & Development SUSE Linux Products GmbH
Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
Just can't find my way to that on openSUSE or to any other project or how to start a project. I must be blind.
it's extremely easy. login. open your own page. create your first project page and fill it. when done try to see where you can link it. even this is not mandatory. Most experienced users begin by the "recent chages" page and will see your page and work with :-) jdd -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.net http://arvamip.free.fr
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 10:44:11AM +0200, jdd wrote:
Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
Just can't find my way to that on openSUSE or to any other project or how to start a project. I must be blind.
it's extremely easy.
Luckily SUSE itself is a lot easier and userfriendly.
login.
OK. That text Create an account or login looks like it is a slogan that comes with a logo. It would be easier if it were also in green and next to 'Communicate'
open your own page.
My what? I click on a lot of things, but I don't see what you would mean with `your own page`
create your first project page
If I could find it, I would
and fill it.
It sounds exiting, but I don't see anything. Are you sure you are not Marketing? ;-)
when done try to see where you can link it. even this is not mandatory. Most experienced users begin by the "recent chages" page and will see your page and work with :-)
I am abviously not an experience user, becaue for me the whole website is as clear as mud. :-( I also looked at how to add something to the wishlist and had NO idea what to do and gave up. If I would know how to do these things, I could change the page http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/How_to_participate and make it a real 'How to' about how to use it. Alas, I don't get it. houghi -- No animal should ever jump on the dining room furniture unless absolutely certain he can hold his own in conversation. -- Fran Lebowitz
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 12:28:58PM +0200, houghi wrote:
login.
OK. That text Create an account or login looks like it is a slogan that comes with a logo. It would be easier if it were also in green and next to 'Communicate'
Noted.
open your own page.
My what? I click on a lot of things, but I don't see what you would mean with `your own page`
When you have created an account and logged in, the link "Create an account or log in" changes into a list of links. The first one is your username. When you click on it, you see your user page: http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/User:<username> (with <username> of course replaced by your real user name). You can add some information about you to that, if you like. Click "Edit" at the bottom of the page. You need to use Wiki markup, see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Editing
create your first project page
If I could find it, I would
You have to create it first ;-) To create a page, first create a link to it on any other page - for example your user page. Then click on that link. When you link to a non-existing page, it is shown as an empty one. Again, click on "Edit" at the bottom and add content. This is the generic Wiki way of editing and adding pages. It's maybe not too intuitive for everyone, but it is at least consistent for all websites that run wikis ;-) A better introduction is at: http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/Help:Contents Hope that helps, Sonja -- Sonja Krause-Harder (skh@suse.de) Research & Development SUSE Linux Products GmbH
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 12:48:59PM +0200, Sonja Krause-Harder wrote: <snip>
You can add some information about you to that, if you like. Click "Edit" at the bottom of the page. You need to use Wiki markup, see:
OK. I ahve my page and on the Help page it tells me how great it is that everybody can edit something that is already there. Still not clear on how to get something to edit.
create your first project page
If I could find it, I would
You have to create it first ;-)
That is what I am trying to find out.
To create a page, first create a link to it on any other page - for example your user page.
I have read and re-read this 25 times and I have NO idea what it means. To me it sounds that you first need a page to enter a link, but to enter a link you need a page.
Then click on that link. When you link to a non-existing page, it is shown as an empty one. Again, click on "Edit" at the bottom and add content.
This is the generic Wiki way of editing and adding pages. It's maybe not too intuitive for everyone, but it is at least consistent for all websites that run wikis ;-) A better introduction is at:
http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/Help:Contents
Hope that helps,
Unfortunatly, it didn't. I am aware on how to edit things on Wiki's. I edidded and added some to a wiki below. It is the whole concept of how to start a new project I don't get. http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henny_van_Andel-Schipper (Yeach that is my aunt on a picture I took. She is the oldest living person, uh, alive) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendrikje_van_Andel-Schipper for our German friends here. :) houghi -- Psychiatrists say that one out of four people are mentally ill. Check three friends. If they're OK, you're it.
houghi wrote:
open your own page.
My what? I click on a lot of things, but I don't see what you would mean with `your own page`
well... I'm acustomed to mediawiki, your are not :-( my fault on the upper side of the window, once logged, you will see your login name (probably "houghi"). Clic on it, this is your own page
create your first project page
for this, edit your page and type [[my own project page or whatever you want]] blanks are allowed :-) save. this become a red link. clic on it, you are on the nex page. one may nearly always begin like this, so not disturbing the others before the page is visible. after this the page may be linked anywhere (in the wiki or outside by html link) jdd -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.net http://arvamip.free.fr
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 12:51:53PM +0200, jdd wrote:
[[my own project page or whatever you want]] blanks are allowed :-)
save. this become a red link. clic on it, you are on the nex page.
OK. Now I get it. Sorry for being so dense. What you need to do is edit the next page and you are ready to go.
one may nearly always begin like this, so not disturbing the others before the page is visible.
I will sere if I can put my makeSUSEdvd in there and will ask here first. :-) Sorry for being so stoopid. houghi -- You too can wear a nose mitten.
houghi wrote:
Sorry for being so stoopid.
not at all. I was first used to wikini, a quite classical wiki (with names like MyOwnWiki), and when I discovered media wiki I was lost :-) On the bottom of any opensuse page, you will find a link (site powered by mediawiki) and this send to much documentation. I started a community page : http://opensuse.org/index.php/Community_discussion_page where opensuse contributors can share they problems and success. This page is default on mediawiki, but who now why deleted by Novell jdd -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.net http://arvamip.free.fr
Is there some way in which instead of hacking around with individual package files, I can just select a list of packages like in YaST, and the SuSE Custom Image Maker (SCIM!) creates a set of CD images for me? Another question: how can I change the default language, background wallpaper, etc, for a custom distro I create from SuSE? -- Shriramana Sharma http://samvit.org (o- Penguin #395953 //\ running on ancient Indian wisdom V_/_ and modern computing efficiency
El Martes, 23 de Agosto de 2005 19:20, Shriramana Sharma escribió:
Is there some way in which instead of hacking around with individual package files, I can just select a list of packages like in YaST, and the SuSE Custom Image Maker (SCIM!) creates a set of CD images for me?
Another question: how can I change the default language,
Edit the file "content". At the end you'll find a line like this: LANGUAGE en_US Just change it to the language you wish.
background wallpaper, etc, for a custom distro I create from SuSE?
The wallpaper is stored in the package kdebase3-SuSE. You have to modify the package to add the wallpaper you want and edit "config-files/opt/kde3/share/config/SuSE/default/kdesktoprc" inside kdebase-SuSE-9.3.tar.bz2 Other settings are also stored in kdebase3-SuSE, like the widget style, the window decoration or the color scheme to use. -- Víctor Fernández Martínez Gabinete de prensa de PoLinux [www.polinux.upv.es]. Usuario de Linux registrado #312284 en http://counter.li.org.
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