[SuSE Linux] The K environment
I just learned something incredible. There is a tool called kfm in here that serves as a browser. I know I just fell off the turnip truck, but this sure came as a surprise to me. Easily as good as my old favorite, IE3.1. Bigger surprise to me would be continuing to use Netscape after this discovery. I can't imagine why I would. Steve - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
On Sun, 06 Sep 1998, you wrote:
I just learned something incredible. There is a tool called kfm in here that serves as a browser. [....]
Bigger surprise to me would be continuing to use Netscape after this discovery. I can't imagine why I would.
Well, when you find a high bandwidth site, loaded with multi-media s*it that you just can't live without, that's when NS will serve your needs. But for day-to-day stuff, HDE is sufficient, imo. And much neater too as you can end up with 15-600+/- windows open at once without thinking about running an app for that single purpose.... andy - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
On Sun, 06 Sep 1998, you wrote:
On Sun, 06 Sep 1998, you wrote:
I just learned something incredible. There is a tool called kfm in here that serves as a browser. [....]
Bigger surprise to me would be continuing to use Netscape after this discovery. I can't imagine why I would.
Well, when you find a high bandwidth site, loaded with multi-media s*it that you just can't live without, that's when NS will serve your needs. But for day-to-day stuff, HDE is sufficient, imo. And much neater too as you can end up with 15-600+/- windows open at once without thinking about running an app for that single purpose....
sandy
One of my major motivations for leaving the Win95 environment was the obsessive irace toward more content/less value on the web. I refuse to let more than I want to see come into view, as far as I can possibly control it. You are exactly right. The usefulness of kfm is what MS was aiming for when they shot at Win98 with the browser married to the desktop. They just left the barn door open. NS and MS alike are losing control over safety faster than anyone can keep up with wiping their bottoms for them. FYI..this is a very informative site, even though we really don't need this software for Linux. <A HREF="http://www.nsclean.com"><A HREF="http://www.nsclean.com</A">http://www.nsclean.com</A</A>> Kevin does a superb job of chasing down and squashing bugs for the two biggies. He conquered Back Orifice for them, for instance. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Steve Mills wrote:
Bigger surprise to me would be continuing to use Netscape after this discovery. I can't imagine why I would.
Maybe because kfm does not handle java or embedded midi or any other plugins (realplayer, mpeg, avi, mov, etc) for that matter (and it's as buggy as Netscape and requires a bigger install (kde)). Frankly using kfm as a web browser is kind of like using Netscape as a file manager. No offense intended, just a counterpoint. -- .###. /#######\## -==============================================- ;##### ;# Mike's WindowMaker ;##### ;# <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html</A</A>> \# /## -==============================================- ###'---'#### - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
On Sun, 06 Sep 1998, you wrote:
Steve Mills wrote:
Bigger surprise to me would be continuing to use Netscape after this discovery. I can't imagine why I would.
Maybe because kfm does not handle java or embedded midi or any other plugins (realplayer, mpeg, avi, mov, etc) for that matter (and it's as buggy as Netscape and requires a bigger install (kde)). Frankly using kfm as a web browser is kind of like using Netscape as a file manager. No offense intended, just a counterpoint.
Well put, Michael. See my reply to Sandy. Some of us just don't want really content-rich web fare. The beauty of Linux, imho, is that it can be everything to everyone. I hope my opinions don't get taken as more than that. I happen to like minimal websites and I throttle those that aren't. Unless, of course, they concern photography. :) - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Michael Lankton wrote:
Steve Mills wrote:
Bigger surprise to me would be continuing to use Netscape after this discovery. I can't imagine why I would.
Maybe because kfm does not handle java or embedded midi or any other plugins (realplayer, mpeg, avi, mov, etc) for that matter (and it's as buggy as Netscape and requires a bigger install (kde)). Frankly using kfm as a web browser is kind of like using Netscape as a file manager. No offense intended, just a counterpoint.
I'm sure in a future release, Java support will be in there, assuming Java is still "alive and well" in the future. There's some debate about that. I've become quite fond of KDE....yeah, I know....some don't like it. It DOESN'T look like 'DOZ, is much faster, and I'm spending time with it because it's the "clincher" to move my users at work to Linux. Fred -- - Windows 98 supports real multitasking - it can boot and crash simultaneously - Fred A. Miller, Systems Administrator Cornell Univ. Press Services fmiller@lightlink.com fm@cupserv.org - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
KFM as a web browser is IMHO pre-alpha, while it seems to handle most standard HTML (not 4.0) and does a very good job of rendering images, it lacks some basic functionality, such as inability to submit forms and no JavaScript support. While I'm sure the forms problem will be fixed, the Java support will be much more difficult to add. Kristian Farren Fred A. Miller wrote:
Michael Lankton wrote:
Steve Mills wrote:
Bigger surprise to me would be continuing to use Netscape after this discovery. I can't imagine why I would.
Maybe because kfm does not handle java or embedded midi or any other plugins (realplayer, mpeg, avi, mov, etc) for that matter (and it's as buggy as Netscape and requires a bigger install (kde)). Frankly using kfm as a web browser is kind of like using Netscape as a file manager. No offense intended, just a counterpoint.
I'm sure in a future release, Java support will be in there, assuming Java is still "alive and well" in the future. There's some debate about that. I've become quite fond of KDE....yeah, I know....some don't like it. It DOESN'T look like 'DOZ, is much faster, and I'm spending time with it because it's the "clincher" to move my users at work to Linux.
Fred
-- - Windows 98 supports real multitasking - it can boot and crash simultaneously - Fred A. Miller, Systems Administrator Cornell Univ. Press Services fmiller@lightlink.com fm@cupserv.org
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On Sun, 06 Sep 1998, you wrote:
I just learned something incredible. There is a tool called kfm in here that serves as a browser. I know I just fell off the turnip truck, but this sure came as a surprise to me. Easily as good as my old favorite, IE3.1.
Bigger surprise to me would be continuing to use Netscape after this discovery. I can't imagine why I would.
Steve
Though I really like KDE, I have to say that as a browser KFM is pretty buggy. Originally I had hoped to replace netscape with KFM but I just can't see that happening any time soon. I agree that it is good for any general hunting... but beyond that it still has a long way to go. Hopefully things will change:) just my opinion, Harry - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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