Did you a "zypper dup --from libreoffice" (or whichever the name of you repo is)? It worked without any problem here. Johannes Am 06.06.2014 10:21, schrieb Dylan:

On 06/06/14 09:11, C wrote:

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You can get the latest build of LibreOffice (v 4.2.4.2) from: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Factory/openSUSE_13.1... (assuming openSUSE 13.1)

Which throws up several pages of dependency problems...

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On 06/06/14 18:11, C wrote:

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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....but is this a matter of someone (or more than one someone) needing to be prodded to extract finger(s) in order to get a vital application - a 'flagship' - up-to-date for openSUSE?

I speak of LibreOffice.

The version which is available from the openSUSE repositories is 4.1.6.

The latest stable version available from libreoffice.org is version 4.2.4.2. You can get the latest build of LibreOffice (v 4.2.4.2) from: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Factory/openSUSE_13.1... (assuming openSUSE 13.1)

Having 4.1.6 in the main 13.1 repo is no surprise really. It's the LibreOffice release that was stable/current at 13.1 release.

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I don't know who is causing this problem but to me it is clear that openSUSE is *WAY* behind what is available from LibreOffice.org. Nope.. you're just pulling from the "wrong" repo. :-)

When you run YaST2 you are able to view the Repositories available and add new repositories. Under the Community Repositories there is the LibreOffice respository - and this repository gets you: download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/stable/openSUSE_13.1/ . Now, where the heck does Factory get into the picture?! LibreOffice is automatically installed when one installs openSUSE (say 13.1). OK, with this I expect to only get the version and any bug fixes for the version which is installed with 13.1 via the usual (?)update repo(s) for 13.1. But when I see a Community Repository titled LibreOffice I expect that to have the latest version of LibreOffice - and I *don't* expect to learn that the bloody latest version is sitting in some other damn repository! BC -- Over the years you've helped raise awareness of a number of issues but the main one has been what a pain in the arse you are. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2014-06-06 16:01, C wrote:

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Basil Chupin <> wrote:

Well, if you look here: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ you will see that LibreOffice 4.1.6 is one of the two available released versions - ie the "stable" release vs the "fresh" release. So you are getting **A** current release of LibreOffice. Should it be 4.2.4.2? Probably, but providing 4.1.6 is still technically within the confines of the latest supported release as provided by TDF. :-P

I have to agree with Basil, I would expect the most recent LO package in "LibreOffice:Unstable" repo, and the most recent stable in "LibreOffice:Stable". However, the version in "LibreOffice:Stable" is 4.1.6.2, and in "LibreOffice:Unstable" we have 4.1.1.2, which is older... it makes no sense. I have to conclude that something is wrong with the "LibreOffice:*" repos. If you look at https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?project=LibreOffice%3AUnstable&package=libreoffice, you see that all builds are failed, and the last change was 10 months ago. Has "LibreOffice:Unstable" repo been abandoned? Why? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 07/06/14 00:01, C wrote:

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 06/06/14 18:11, C wrote:

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On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

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....but is this a matter of someone (or more than one someone) needing to be prodded to extract finger(s) in order to get a vital application - a 'flagship' - up-to-date for openSUSE?

I speak of LibreOffice.

The version which is available from the openSUSE repositories is 4.1.6.

The latest stable version available from libreoffice.org is version 4.2.4.2. You can get the latest build of LibreOffice (v 4.2.4.2) from:

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Factory/openSUSE_13.1... (assuming openSUSE 13.1)

Having 4.1.6 in the main 13.1 repo is no surprise really. It's the LibreOffice release that was stable/current at 13.1 release.

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I don't know who is causing this problem but to me it is clear that openSUSE is *WAY* behind what is available from LibreOffice.org. Nope.. you're just pulling from the "wrong" repo. :-)

When you run YaST2 you are able to view the Repositories available and add new repositories.

Under the Community Repositories there is the LibreOffice respository - and this repository gets you:

download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/stable/openSUSE_13.1/ .

Now, where the heck does Factory get into the picture?!

LibreOffice is automatically installed when one installs openSUSE (say 13.1).

OK, with this I expect to only get the version and any bug fixes for the version which is installed with 13.1 via the usual (?)update repo(s) for 13.1.

But when I see a Community Repository titled LibreOffice I expect that to have the latest version of LibreOffice - and I *don't* expect to learn that the bloody latest version is sitting in some other damn repository!

Well, if you look here: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ you will see that LibreOffice 4.1.6 is one of the two available released versions - ie the "stable" release vs the "fresh" release. So you are getting **A** current release of LibreOffice. Should it be 4.2.4.2? Probably, but providing 4.1.6 is still technically within the confines of the latest supported release as provided by TDF. :-P

Wot a lot of...... I suspect that the first-ever release of LibreOffice is still supported - but so what?

Where does factory come into the picture? Easy. Go here: http://software.opensuse.org/131/en and search LibreOffice (like you should do when you want to find openSUSE apps right?).

Oh no, none of this "go here" and "go there" crap. I install openSUSE and LibreOffice is installed. I then hear that there is a new version available. I know that there is YaST2 where I can see that there is a Community Repository called LibreOffice - and this is the repository I acrivate with the intention of getting the latest version of LibreOffice. I know nothing about software.opensuse.org/131/en nor have I even heard of it. So how would I "go" there if I have never heard of it?

That leads you here: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ Scroll down, click the "show unstable packages" link and shazam, there's the LibreOffice release you wanted :-)

"show unstable packages"...... and "shazam, there's the LibreOffice release [I] wanted". Well Captain Marvel, I do not associate shazam with anything which contains the word "unstable" in the description :-) . Unstable is, well, unstable and I want something which is stable. The LibreOffice site shows the stable version(s) available and the pre-release version(s). The repository in YaST2 has the description "...../LibreOffice:/stable/......." -- not 'unstable' or 'Factory' but the simple word "stable" - which is the word used on the LO site for version 4.2.4.2 which is the one I downloaded. BC -- Over the years you've helped raise awareness of a number of issues but the main one has been what a pain in the arse you are. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 06/06/14 18:14, Dylan wrote:

On 06/06/14 09:00, Basil Chupin wrote: [SNIP]

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But this time I strike a unsolvable dependency problem: 4.2.4.2 "tells" me that there are 3 files which are not available for it and so it cannot install. But the 3 files *ARE* installed and available! Checked and double-checked, and checked again.

Which files in particular? I use several packages from 3rd parties which need to be installed with --nodeps simply because openSuSE uses a different package name from that expected by the 3rd party rpm.

Dx

See my reply to 'h'. BC -- Over the years you've helped raise awareness of a number of issues but the main one has been what a pain in the arse you are. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 06/06/14 18:16, Johannes Weberhofer wrote:

Dear Basil,

I found out, that in http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Factory/ you can find very recent builds of Libreoffice, which works nicely (for me).

See my reply to 'C'. Why should I or anyone for that matter even think of Factory when there is a Community Repository in YaST2 which purports to give you the latest and greatest version of LibreOffice by activating this Repository?!

I think, it's a little bit strange, that ther eis an outdated LibreOffice:/Unstable/ project and a completely old LibreOffice:/Stable/ branch, too; it would be great, if someone could clean up here...

I won't comment on this last part as it may get me into trouble......... [pruned] BC -- Over the years you've helped raise awareness of a number of issues but the main one has been what a pain in the arse you are. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 06/06/14 18:21, h wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 18:00:53 +1000 Basil Chupin wrote:

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....but is this a matter of someone (or more than one someone) needing to be prodded to extract finger(s) in order to get a vital application - a 'flagship' - up-to-date for openSUSE?

I speak of LibreOffice.

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But this time I strike a unsolvable dependency problem: 4.2.4.2 "tells" me that there are 3 files which are not available for it and so it cannot install. But the 3 files *ARE* installed and available! Checked and double-checked, and checked again.

So what is the possible cause of the problem? The files that libreoffice is looking for have been moved to another directory/subdirectory: the files it wants are located in /usr/lib64/ but I don't know where they were originally located. [pruned]

I have updated LibreOffice on my OpenSuse 13.1 box on a regular basis, and, with help from this list (I think it was this list) have got a developer version working.

Can you remember which three files "are, but are not there"?

(Yes, I know this does not resolve your comment about having a repository with the current libre office version available. I know nothing about packaging)

The 3 files are: libfreetype.so.6 libgnomevfs-2.so.0 libgconf-2.so.4 BC -- Over the years you've helped raise awareness of a number of issues but the main one has been what a pain in the arse you are. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 07/06/14 00:00, upscope wrote:

On Friday, June 06, 2014 06:00:53 PM Basil Chupin wrote: <QUOTE>

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....but is this a matter of someone (or more than one someone) needing to be prodded to extract finger(s) in order to get a vital application - a 'flagship' - up-to-date for openSUSE?

I speak of LibreOffice.

The version which is available from the openSUSE repositories is 4.1.6.

The latest stable version available from libreoffice.org is version 4.2.4.2.

Now, that's quite a difference wouldn't you agree? </Quote> BC When did you try install 4.2.4.2 from the TDF website?

Read my first post.

I installed it two weeks ago with no dependence problems. It normally installs in a different directory than the openSUSE version so I now have 4.2.4.2-2 from Document foundation in /opt and 4.1.6.2-3.1 from openSUSE update repo in /usr. Both work but neither has solved all the problem with docx and xlxs documents from MS. (Mainly format and graphic issues.

Neither had dependency issues because they went into seperate folders I suspect. i can open almost all of my .odt and ods documents with no issues with either one. I assume you tried to update your 4.1.x with the 4.2.4.2 from TDF. I do not think that will work.

I agree with you on the repo's. The last time I looked in Factory it had an earlier version than the update repo.

Russ

BC -- Over the years you've helped raise awareness of a number of issues but the main one has been what a pain in the arse you are. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org