[opensuse] Fedora Merge - SUSE turn to follow
hi all ! I think Fedora merge of Core and Extras is very nice indeed, and I think SUSE must follow this trend, and merge some community packages (from build service?) into the base distro. After all, having 5000 packages vs. Debian's 20,000 is 4x victory for Debian. I think Fedora 7 will come close to 10,000 packages - SUSE needs more packages too to stay competitive. -Alexey -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 01 March 2007 20:06, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
I think Fedora 7 will come close to 10,000 packages - SUSE needs more packages too to stay competitive.
Quality before quantity. Are you missing something? -- // Janne -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 08:17:38PM +0200, Janne Karhunen wrote:
On Thursday 01 March 2007 20:06, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
I think Fedora 7 will come close to 10,000 packages - SUSE needs more packages too to stay competitive.
Quality before quantity. Are you missing something?
Fedora Core + Extras has altogether 3820 Source RPMS at this time. openSUSE 10.2 is built from approx 3300 Source RPMs. There is not that much difference. ;) And frankly, instead of 2000 more packages I would like MP3/Movie playing to just work instead. Ciao, MArcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 01 March 2007 10:36:01 am Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 08:17:38PM +0200, Janne Karhunen wrote:
On Thursday 01 March 2007 20:06, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
I think Fedora 7 will come close to 10,000 packages - SUSE needs more packages too to stay competitive.
Quality before quantity. Are you missing something?
Fedora Core + Extras has altogether 3820 Source RPMS at this time. openSUSE 10.2 is built from approx 3300 Source RPMs.
There is not that much difference. ;)
And frankly, instead of 2000 more packages I would like MP3/Movie playing to just work instead.
Agreed!! I've been oft told that Debian is better because it has more packages. However, I've yet to find things that don't exist in SUSE that do in Debian - save the occasional obscure program that no one else has. Even then, I simply can compile from source and run checkinstall to make an rpm. :) -- kai Free Compean and Ramos http://www.grassfire.org/142/petition.asp http://www.perfectreign.com/?q=node/46 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 01 March 2007 20:36, Marcus Meissner wrote:
I think Fedora 7 will come close to 10,000 packages - SUSE needs more packages too to stay competitive.
Quality before quantity. Are you missing something?
Fedora Core + Extras has altogether 3820 Source RPMS at this time. openSUSE 10.2 is built from approx 3300 Source RPMs.
There is not that much difference. ;)
And frankly, instead of 2000 more packages I would like MP3/Movie playing to just work instead.
That, and it would be quite nice if the package management worked as well :/. Current solutions are all too complex and error prone for the common man [while I agree that usability is decent when these work, but they rarely do for long]. And then there's the 3rd party driver annoyance we have yet to see properly addressed.. -- // Janne -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Janne Karhunen wrote:
On Thursday 01 March 2007 20:36, Marcus Meissner wrote:
I think Fedora 7 will come close to 10,000 packages - SUSE needs more packages too to stay competitive.
Quality before quantity. Are you missing something?
Fedora Core + Extras has altogether 3820 Source RPMS at this time. openSUSE 10.2 is built from approx 3300 Source RPMs.
There is not that much difference. ;)
And frankly, instead of 2000 more packages I would like MP3/Movie playing to just work instead.
That, and it would be quite nice if the package management worked as well :/. Current solutions are all too complex and error prone for the common man [while I agree that usability is decent when these work, but they rarely do for long]. And then there's the 3rd party driver annoyance we have yet to see properly addressed..
AND, Don't forget Hal. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jan Tiggy wrote:
Billie Erin Walsh schrieb:
AND, Don't forget Hal.
What do you want from HAL? It works perfectly on SLED same to udev. ;) IMO Novell policy sux big time.
thx Jan
I want to be able to mount my external USB floppy and Zip Drive. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 01 March 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:
And frankly, instead of 2000 more packages I would like MP3/Movie playing to just work instead.
Ciao, MArcus
Whoa! That posted form a suse.de mail address! I thought such talk was verboten. (sp?) We all want that Marcus! -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:39:14AM -0900, John Andersen wrote:
On Thursday 01 March 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:
And frankly, instead of 2000 more packages I would like MP3/Movie playing to just work instead.
Ciao, MArcus
Whoa! That posted form a suse.de mail address! I thought such talk was verboten. (sp?)
We all want that Marcus!
Oh, to mention my personal wishes is not verboten. ;) Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Janne Karhunen wrote:
On Thursday 01 March 2007 20:06, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
I think Fedora 7 will come close to 10,000 packages - SUSE needs more packages too to stay competitive.
Quality before quantity. Are you missing something?
Well, I don't know about Alexey, but one of the first things I missed after upgrading to 10.2 is Ethereal. It's not on packman, either. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Well, I don't know about Alexey, but one of the first things I missed after upgrading to 10.2 is Ethereal. It's not on packman, either.
That's because it changed it's name..it's called wireshark now... Good luck.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David Brodbeck wrote:
Janne Karhunen wrote:
On Thursday 01 March 2007 20:06, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
I think Fedora 7 will come close to 10,000 packages - SUSE needs more packages too to stay competitive.
Quality before quantity. Are you missing something?
Well, I don't know about Alexey, but one of the first things I missed after upgrading to 10.2 is Ethereal. It's not on packman, either.
It's there, but the name has been changed to Wire Shark, IIRC. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
It's there, but the name has been changed to Wire Shark, IIRC.
That would explain it. Thanks. Like most network troubleshooting tools, it's not a program I use all that often, but when I need it, I really need it. :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 01 March 2007 18:06:50 Alexey Eremenko wrote:
hi all !
I think Fedora merge of Core and Extras is very nice indeed, and I think SUSE must follow this trend, and merge some community packages (from build service?) into the base distro.
After all, having 5000 packages vs. Debian's 20,000 is 4x victory for Debian.
I think Fedora 7 will come close to 10,000 packages - SUSE needs more packages too to stay competitive. Why ?
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I totally agree, in the name of all that is wholy, how should that
benefit Suse at all?
Quoting michael norman
On Thursday 01 March 2007 18:06:50 Alexey Eremenko wrote:
hi all !
I think Fedora merge of Core and Extras is very nice indeed, and I think SUSE must follow this trend, and merge some community packages (from build service?) into the base distro.
After all, having 5000 packages vs. Debian's 20,000 is 4x victory for Debian.
I think Fedora 7 will come close to 10,000 packages - SUSE needs more packages too to stay competitive. Why ?
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On Thursday, 1. March 2007 19:06:50 Alexey Eremenko wrote:
I think Fedora merge of Core and Extras is very nice indeed, and I
Well, they cannot merge it before they unified their different build systems. The same as openSUSE cannot due it before all development happens in a mature Build Service version.
SUSE needs more packages too to stay competitive.
KDE 4 will be splitted into more sub-packages than KDE 3 - problem solved? ;-) Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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