[opensuse] SuSE 42.3 on laptop?
Hello, my trustful laptop had it's final shutdown after 11 years. There are currently 2 choices for my usage (watching videos, doing 3D printing, usenet, dual ethernet). Dell Inspiron 7577 ( 256GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 16GB) Acer Aspire VX5 ( 512GB SSD + 1.000GB, 16GB) All of them are missing a DVD Writer (or even BluRay player). So which combination of USB (3.0?) Bluray player/DVD writer can I use with the above laptops to install SuSE 42.3 from DVD beside that Windows 10 (dual boot)? Also I need a 2nd Ethernet. I was using PCAMCIA/Cardbus up to now which worked fine, now I have to dump this working hardware also. :-/ Which USB-Ethernet dongles do you suggest? Is there any other better combination? Thanks in advance BR ME -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-05-26 16:18, Markus Egg wrote:
Hello,
my trustful laptop had it's final shutdown after 11 years.
There are currently 2 choices for my usage (watching videos, doing 3D printing, usenet, dual ethernet).
Dell Inspiron 7577 ( 256GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 16GB) Acer Aspire VX5 ( 512GB SSD + 1.000GB, 16GB)
All of them are missing a DVD Writer (or even BluRay player).
So which combination of USB (3.0?) Bluray player/DVD writer can I use with the above laptops to install SuSE 42.3 from DVD beside that Windows 10 (dual boot)?
Just install from USB stick. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Am Samstag, 26. Mai 2018, 16:18:58 schrieb Markus Egg:
Which USB-Ethernet dongles do you suggest? I'am using a Digitus DN-3023 for 4 years now without problems. It identifies itself as ASIX device ( ID 0b95:1790 ASIX Electronics Corp.) HTH
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On 05/26/2018 10:18 AM, Markus Egg wrote:
So which combination of USB (3.0?) Bluray player/DVD writer can I use with the above laptops to install SuSE 42.3 from DVD beside that Windows 10 (dual boot)?
I've been installing from the ISO file on a pen drive for years. No need for discs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 26/05/2018 à 19:42, James Knott a écrit :
On 05/26/2018 10:18 AM, Markus Egg wrote:
So which combination of USB (3.0?) Bluray player/DVD writer can I use with the above laptops to install SuSE 42.3 from DVD beside that Windows 10 (dual boot)?
I've been installing from the ISO file on a pen drive for years. No need for discs.
on modern computer with usb3, and usb3 pen drives, much faster jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/26/2018 01:45 PM, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
I've been installing from the ISO file on a pen drive for years. No need for discs.
on modern computer with usb3, and usb3 pen drives, much faster
My computers are only USB 2. However, it still works fine. Outside of my tablet and phone, I don't have anything that supports USB 3 or C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 26/05/18 um 16:27 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2018-05-26 16:18, Markus Egg wrote:
Hello,
my trustful laptop had it's final shutdown after 11 years.
There are currently 2 choices for my usage (watching videos, doing 3D printing, usenet, dual ethernet).
Dell Inspiron 7577 ( 256GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 16GB) Acer Aspire VX5 ( 512GB SSD + 1.000GB, 16GB)
All of them are missing a DVD Writer (or even BluRay player).
So which combination of USB (3.0?) Bluray player/DVD writer can I use with the above laptops to install SuSE 42.3 from DVD beside that Windows 10 (dual boot)?
Just install from USB stick.
imagewriter says: Segmentation fault imagewriter when selecting the image. Do you use another tool under SuSE or shall I use gparted for that? BR -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-05-27 14:13, Markus Egg wrote:
Am 26/05/18 um 16:27 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2018-05-26 16:18, Markus Egg wrote:
Hello,
my trustful laptop had it's final shutdown after 11 years.
There are currently 2 choices for my usage (watching videos, doing 3D printing, usenet, dual ethernet).
Dell Inspiron 7577 ( 256GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 16GB) Acer Aspire VX5 ( 512GB SSD + 1.000GB, 16GB)
All of them are missing a DVD Writer (or even BluRay player).
So which combination of USB (3.0?) Bluray player/DVD writer can I use with the above laptops to install SuSE 42.3 from DVD beside that Windows 10 (dual boot)?
Just install from USB stick.
imagewriter says: Segmentation fault imagewriter when selecting the image.
Do you use another tool under SuSE or shall I use gparted for that?
no no, never gparted. You do not partition the USB stick. See the instructions: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Live_USB_stick https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Create_a_Live_USB_stick_using_Windows https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Create_a_Live_USB_stick_using_Mac_OS_x I use: dd if=openSUSE-Leap-15.0-DVD-x86_64.iso \ of=/dev/sdX bs=16M oflag=direct status=progress -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Am 27/05/18 um 14:25 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2018-05-27 14:13, Markus Egg wrote:
Am 26/05/18 um 16:27 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2018-05-26 16:18, Markus Egg wrote:
Hello,
my trustful laptop had it's final shutdown after 11 years.
There are currently 2 choices for my usage (watching videos, doing 3D printing, usenet, dual ethernet).
Dell Inspiron 7577 ( 256GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 16GB) Acer Aspire VX5 ( 512GB SSD + 1.000GB, 16GB)
All of them are missing a DVD Writer (or even BluRay player).
So which combination of USB (3.0?) Bluray player/DVD writer can I use with the above laptops to install SuSE 42.3 from DVD beside that Windows 10 (dual boot)?
Just install from USB stick.
imagewriter says: Segmentation fault     imagewriter when selecting the image.
Do you use another tool under SuSE or shall I use gparted for that?
no no, never gparted. You do not partition the USB stick.
See the instructions:
https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Live_USB_stick https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Create_a_Live_USB_stick_using_Windows https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Create_a_Live_USB_stick_using_Mac_OS_x
I use:
dd if=openSUSE-Leap-15.0-DVD-x86_64.iso \ of=/dev/sdX bs=16M oflag=direct status=progress
Silly me, of course dd. What a rhyme. ;-) Thx. ME -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 26/05/18 10:18 AM, Markus Egg wrote:
There are currently 2 choices for my usage (watching videos, doing 3D printing, usenet, dual ethernet).
Er-um. That's your objective. An in-stated objective seems to be 'portability' otherwise we'd be looking for a PC with powerful graphics (for 3d editing and huge 'Cinerama' displays. if it comes to watching videos, browsing, and simply carting 3-d print files from the PC creation site (with its high end graphics and huge 'Cinerama' displays) to the 3-d printer then the sophistication of the device need not be aggressive. I have a friend who also teaches CS courses who does content development and presentation, as well as pretty much as his browsing and writing and movie watching using a netbook. He tells me he was cynical at first but is now a True Believer. He says the conversion to being convinced took a couple of months for new habits to become established. Before my own laptop died I got a deal on a 12" Samsung and bluetooth keyboard. Heck, I could have used a USB keyboard or my USB octopus and lots of stuff. At first I was hesitant but now I use it more than I ever used my laptop. Yes, I prefer Thunderbird on the PC; yes I prefer the PC for photo-editing (Think Cinerama screen), but for the bulk of graphics work, and lets face it, that's the way the net is going, the tablet is fantastic. For example, one of the issues we see often discussed here is the suspension of a laptop when the lid is closed and its restoration then the lid is opened again. With my tablet and its cover, that 'just works'. The bluetooth keyboard 'just works'; the usb keyboard 'just works'. I borrowed a usb controller from a friend's XBox and loaded a flight simulator and it 'just worked'. I loaded a remote X program and linked to my PC over Wifi and read my mail using the view into Thunderbird, the tablet being a X-terminal, and it 'just worked'. Yes, for the PC I'm wedded to openSuse and it will make me ore than the series of petty pissed-off items we encounter here to make me give that up. The real issue here, the point I'm trying to make with the tablet, is that this is really a matter of focusing on the OBJECTIVES and not getting hung up on the mechanism. I've seen too many project get delayed, over-run, many other problems and un-necessary expenses that way. The classic is choosing the hardware before the scope of what is needed by the software, though I don't think that is the case here. Just because this worked that way with the old laptop doesn't mean you have to replicate it with a new laptop. You have a chance at innovation. And hey, it is easier to watch movies in bed with a tablet than a laptop. If you don't want to stream, then you can put half a dozen on a microXDSC card and pop it in the side slot. Hmm. I suppose you can also get a laptop with a detachable touch screen ... Apple do a very nice one ... But anyway, do keep the OBJECTIVES in mind and not get hung up on the mechanisms. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-05-27 15:00, Markus Egg wrote:
Am 27/05/18 um 14:25 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
I use:
dd if=openSUSE-Leap-15.0-DVD-x86_64.iso \ of=/dev/sdX bs=16M oflag=direct status=progress
Silly me, of course dd. What a rhyme. ;-)
Welcome :-) You can just use cat ISO > /dev/sdX or cp ISO /dev/sdX anything works :-) The dd command above is simply better adjusted. Normally copying a 4 GB file fills the kernel cache with it and can make the entire computer slow; the "oflag=direct" avoids this. And with "status=progress" we get some idea of the time remaining - here it took almost 19 minutes (3,5 MB/s). -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On 05/27/2018 03:13 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-05-27 15:00, Markus Egg wrote:
Am 27/05/18 um 14:25 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
I use:
dd if=openSUSE-Leap-15.0-DVD-x86_64.iso \ of=/dev/sdX bs=16M oflag=direct status=progress Silly me, of course dd. What a rhyme. ;-) Welcome :-)
You can just use
cat ISO > /dev/sdX
or
cp ISO /dev/sdX
anything works :-)
The dd command above is simply better adjusted. Normally copying a 4 GB file fills the kernel cache with it and can make the entire computer slow; the "oflag=direct" avoids this. And with "status=progress" we get some idea of the time remaining - here it took almost 19 minutes (3,5 MB/s).
I often use dd. I used it to copy the 15.0 ISO to USB stick and again to back up my 42.3 system to USB, before updating to 15.0. Maybe we should go back to tar & 9 track tape. ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-05-27 16:04, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 26/05/18 10:18 AM, Markus Egg wrote:
...
For example, one of the issues we see often discussed here is the suspension of a laptop when the lid is closed and its restoration then the lid is opened again. With my tablet and its cover, that 'just works'.
I don't think Android tablets suspend the same way as a Linux laptop does. The tablet remains fully running, with the desktop stopped, blank, foreground tasks told to stop. It can actually drain the entire battery in a morning, with an app that is ill behaved. "pocket" does that in one of my tablets: it tries to download all the pages in the background (using wifi), fails, tries again, fails, tries again... and when I open the tablet, the battery is dead. The tablet is not clever enough to kill a background app if it sees it stuck and draining the battery. On another tablet there is a choice of what to do when closing the "lid". It can fully kill the network or not, for instance. My tablet kills the network but not the entire time. It can sync calendar events and thus sound a bell at the appropriate time. Thus the tablets do not suspend on lid close.
The bluetooth keyboard 'just works'; the usb keyboard 'just works'. I borrowed a usb controller from a friend's XBox and loaded a flight simulator and it 'just worked'. I loaded a remote X program and linked to my PC over Wifi and read my mail using the view into Thunderbird, the tablet being a X-terminal, and it 'just worked'.
All works, provided the tablet manufacturer did a good job. Often I try to install things and it works on one tablet and refuses to install on another. So not everything works. And they get all kind of intrusive permissions. Look, the other day a friend wanted to get some songs for use on the kid school where she works. She was too fast, pressed somewhere on her Android phone, and got subscribed instantly to a pay service, 3.5€/week (to be charged on her ISP phone bill). The discontinuation procedure failed. She had to phone her ISP customer service and have them discontinue that pay service, after half an hour on the phone. She will have to pay only one week if they did that correctly. So yes, things work. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Am 26/05/18 um 16:18 schrieb Markus Egg: [...]
Dell Inspiron 7577 ( 256GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 16GB) Acer Aspire VX5 ( 512GB SSD + 1.000GB, 16GB) [...]
I just read that Dell delivers the Dell G5 15 with Ubuntu Linux 16.04 (also with 128GB SSD and 1TB HDD), so it should be possible to buy the Win 10 version and add SuSE for dual boot. The only questionable thing is the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060. There are reported issues with Optimus and Linux. From reading it somehow sounds as if the nVidia has to be selected as only option but I guess this will conflict with dual boot Windows. Are there any users in this forum that have already experience with that? Is Leap 42.3 ready for all that? Thanks in advance ME -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Markus Egg wrote:
Am 26/05/18 um 16:18 schrieb Markus Egg: [...]
Dell Inspiron 7577 ( 256GB SSD, 1TB HDD, 16GB) Acer Aspire VX5 ( 512GB SSD + 1.000GB, 16GB) [...]
I just read that Dell delivers the Dell G5 15 with Ubuntu Linux 16.04 (also with 128GB SSD and 1TB HDD), so it should be possible to buy the Win 10 version and add SuSE for dual boot.
The only questionable thing is the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060. There are reported issues with Optimus and Linux. From reading it somehow sounds as if the nVidia has to be selected as only option but I guess this will conflict with dual boot Windows.
Are there any users in this forum that have already experience with that? Is Leap 42.3 ready for all that?
Depends how you intend to use it. I use bumblebee/optirun on a HD530/940MX combo, using the HD for daily work, and the nvidia only for demanding games etc. I don't have issues. This is tumbleweed though. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 26/05/18 um 16:54 schrieb Markus Koßmann:
Am Samstag, 26. Mai 2018, 16:18:58 schrieb Markus Egg:
Which USB-Ethernet dongles do you suggest? I'am using a Digitus DN-3023 for 4 years now without problems. It identifies itself as ASIX device ( ID 0b95:1790 ASIX Electronics Corp.) HTH
Thanks for that tip. DN-3023 Rev.2 works like a charm. BR -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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