[opensuse] Chromium browser has changed it's home location
Dear openSUSE users, Since this morning, the Chromium browser will no longer be maintained on the openSUSE OBS, nor will it be provided together with the openSUSE distribution. Instead the Chromium browser will be build on Packman and be available for the already supported openSUSE versions. This new version will replace the chromium-ffmpeg package that was already delivered through Packman. In the next days, I will delete the Chromium package from it's home location network:chromium and also send a delete request to openSUSE:Factory. The reason for this change is that ffmpeg support is becoming more and more integrated with the browser itself, making it very hard to remove the ffmpeg related sourcefiles and still keeping a workable browser. In the last few weeks, I tried everything to keep Chromium part of the openSUSE distribution but unfortunately I failed. And as we all know ffmpeg is one of those packages that are not allowed to be present on the openSUSE OBS. Therefore the only logical decision was to move Chromium completely to Packman. The new package will be a full enabled Chromium with build-in support for ffmpeg. The new version 25.0.1329 is already available from Packman and should be installed automatically as that it replaces the chromium-ffmpeg package. If not, please check manually in order to get the latest version from Packman. This should be a one-time manual intervention. Regards Raymond Community Maintainer for the openSUSE Chromium package -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/11/12 07:16, Raymond Wooninck wrote:
Since this morning, the Chromium browser will no longer be maintained on the openSUSE OBS, Ray,
This is kind of a surprise! But thanks for the heads up and work you have done. To be honest the thread title had me thinking for a moment as I thought it was implying the a change to the hidden settings folder... silly me. Sadly, I'm using Chrome more now, as flash support disintegrates. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Nov 19 08:16:47 AM Raymond Wooninck wrote:
Dear openSUSE users,
Since this morning, the Chromium browser will no longer be maintained on the openSUSE OBS, nor will it be provided together with the openSUSE distribution.
I apologize for being the slow kid in class, but what exactly is the difference between Chromium and the Chrome downloaded directly from Google (which I have been using with the Xine plugin)? Thanks! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/11/12 14:00, Dennis Gallien wrote:
but what exactly is the difference between Chromium and the Chrome Chromium is the open version. But they are basically the same. They use different settings folders though.
Chrome has the advantage of integrated flash (pepper flash, I think it's called) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Nov 19 02:06:42 PM Carl Fletcher wrote:
On 19/11/12 14:00, Dennis Gallien wrote:
but what exactly is the difference between Chromium and the Chrome
Chromium is the open version. But they are basically the same. They use different settings folders though.
Chrome has the advantage of integrated flash (pepper flash, I think it's called)
Thanks, Carl. I didn't know you were hanging out on the mailing list, too - that's impressive given the amount of time you invest in the Forums. :) --Dennis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/11/12 15:01, Dennis Gallien wrote:
Thanks, Carl.
I didn't know you were hanging out on the mailing list, too - that's impressive given the amount of time you invest in the Forums. Just keep my ear to the ground here -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 19. November 2012, 08:16:47 schrieb Raymond Wooninck:
[...] The new version 25.0.1329 is already available from Packman and should be installed automatically as that it replaces the chromium-ffmpeg package. If not, please check manually in order to get the latest version from Packman. This should be a one-time manual intervention.
Many thanks for your help, Raymond! However, it looks like Packman only offers the 32-bit version of Chromium. Is this change intended? Gruß Jan -- Wasting time is an important part of life. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Jan Ritzerfeld <suse@mailinglists.jan.ritzerfeld.org> [11-19-12 13:42]:
Am Montag, 19. November 2012, 08:16:47 schrieb Raymond Wooninck:
[...] The new version 25.0.1329 is already available from Packman and should be installed automatically as that it replaces the chromium-ffmpeg package. If not, please check manually in order to get the latest version from Packman. This should be a one-time manual intervention.
Many thanks for your help, Raymond! However, it looks like Packman only offers the 32-bit version of Chromium. Is this change intended?
14:49 Crash: ~ > rpm -qi chromium Name : chromium Version : 25.0.1329.0 Release : 2.1 Architecture: x86_64 Install Date: Mon 19 Nov 2012 09:06:40 AM EST Group : Productivity/Networking/Web/Browsers Size : 145130967 License : BSD-3-Clause and LGPL-2.1+ Signature : RSA/SHA1, Sun 18 Nov 2012 04:31:15 PM EST, Key ID 45a1d0671abd1afb Source RPM : chromium-25.0.1329.0-2.1.src.rpm Build Date : Sun 18 Nov 2012 03:43:12 PM EST Build Host : uschi Relocations : (not relocatable) Packager : packman@links2linux.de Vendor : http://packman.links2linux.de URL : http://code.google.com/p/chromium/ Summary : Google's opens source browser project Description : Chromium is the open-source project behind Google Chrome. We invite you to join us in our effort to help build a safer, faster, and more stable way for all Internet users to experience the web, and to create a powerful platform for developing a new generation of web applications. Distribution: Essentials / openSUSE_Tumbleweed -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 19. November 2012, 14:51:09 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
[...] Distribution: Essentials / openSUSE_Tumbleweed
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I was talking about oS 12.1. Gruß Jan -- When in doubt, predict that the present trend will continue. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 19. November 2012, 19:40:16 schrieb Jan Ritzerfeld:
[...] Many thanks for your help, Raymond! However, it looks like Packman only offers the 32-bit version of Chromium. Is this change intended?
| Version : 25.0.1329.0 | [...] | Architecture: x86_64 | [...] | Distribution: Essentials / openSUSE_12.1 Many thanks to Packman! Gruß Jan -- Expenditures rise to meet available income. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/11/12 07:16, Raymond Wooninck wrote:
Since this morning, the Chromium browser will no longer be maintained on the openSUSE OBS, nor will it be provided together with the openSUSE distribution.
Instead the Chromium browser will be build on Packman and be available for the already supported openSUSE versions. This new version will replace the chromium-ffmpeg package that was already delivered through Packman.
Anyone care to explain what is going on. Now you see it, now you don't..... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Carl Fletcher <caf4926@gmail.com> wrote:
On 19/11/12 07:16, Raymond Wooninck wrote:
Since this morning, the Chromium browser will no longer be maintained on the openSUSE OBS, nor will it be provided together with the openSUSE distribution.
Instead the Chromium browser will be build on Packman and be available for the already supported openSUSE versions. This new version will replace the chromium-ffmpeg package that was already delivered through Packman.
Anyone care to explain what is going on. Now you see it, now you don't.....
Carl, What are you not understanding? chromium-ffmpeg is no longer part of openSUSE itself and has been moved to Packman: cbell@circe:~> zypper info chromium-ffmpeg Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Information for package chromium-ffmpeg: Repository: Packman Repository Name: chromium-ffmpeg Version: 25.0.1329.0-101.1 Arch: x86_64 Vendor: http://packman.links2linux.de Installed: No Status: not installed Installed Size: 2.6 MiB Summary: The ffmpeg lib for Google's opens source browser Chromium Description: FFMPEG library built from the chromium sources. cbell@circe:~> Note the "Repository" and "Vendor" lines. Does this answer your questions? -- Chris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Christofer C. Bell <christofer.c.bell@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Carl Fletcher <caf4926@gmail.com> wrote:
On 19/11/12 07:16, Raymond Wooninck wrote:
Since this morning, the Chromium browser will no longer be maintained on the openSUSE OBS, nor will it be provided together with the openSUSE distribution.
Instead the Chromium browser will be build on Packman and be available for the already supported openSUSE versions. This new version will replace the chromium-ffmpeg package that was already delivered through Packman.
Anyone care to explain what is going on. Now you see it, now you don't.....
Carl,
What are you not understanding? chromium-ffmpeg is no longer part of openSUSE itself and has been moved to Packman:
cbell@circe:~> zypper info chromium-ffmpeg Loading repository data... Reading installed packages...
Information for package chromium-ffmpeg:
Repository: Packman Repository Name: chromium-ffmpeg Version: 25.0.1329.0-101.1 Arch: x86_64 Vendor: http://packman.links2linux.de Installed: No Status: not installed Installed Size: 2.6 MiB Summary: The ffmpeg lib for Google's opens source browser Chromium Description: FFMPEG library built from the chromium sources. cbell@circe:~>
Note the "Repository" and "Vendor" lines. Does this answer your questions?
As a follow-up, this is the bit I think is weird in light of the announcement: cbell@circe:~> zypper info chromium Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Information for package chromium: Repository: openSUSE-12.2-Update Name: chromium Version: 24.0.1290.0-1.19.1 Arch: x86_64 Vendor: openSUSE Installed: No Status: not installed Installed Size: 120.9 MiB Summary: Google's opens source browser project Description: Chromium is the open-source project behind Google Chrome. We invite you to join us in our effort to help build a safer, faster, and more stable way for all Internet users to experience the web, and to create a powerful platform for developing a new generation of web applications. cbell@circe:~> Again, note the Vendor and Repository lines. -- Chris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Christofer C. Bell <christofer.c.bell@gmail.com> [11-24-12 06:43]:
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Christofer C. Bell <christofer.c.bell@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Carl Fletcher <caf4926@gmail.com> wrote:
On 19/11/12 07:16, Raymond Wooninck wrote:
Since this morning, the Chromium browser will no longer be maintained on the openSUSE OBS, nor will it be provided together with the openSUSE distribution.
Instead the Chromium browser will be build on Packman and be available for the already supported openSUSE versions. This new version will replace the chromium-ffmpeg package that was already delivered through Packman.
Anyone care to explain what is going on. Now you see it, now you don't.....
Carl,
What are you not understanding? chromium-ffmpeg is no longer part of openSUSE itself and has been moved to Packman:
cbell@circe:~> zypper info chromium-ffmpeg Loading repository data... Reading installed packages...
Information for package chromium-ffmpeg:
Repository: Packman Repository Name: chromium-ffmpeg Version: 25.0.1329.0-101.1 Arch: x86_64 Vendor: http://packman.links2linux.de Installed: No Status: not installed Installed Size: 2.6 MiB Summary: The ffmpeg lib for Google's opens source browser Chromium Description: FFMPEG library built from the chromium sources. cbell@circe:~>
Note the "Repository" and "Vendor" lines. Does this answer your questions?
As a follow-up, this is the bit I think is weird in light of the announcement:
cbell@circe:~> zypper info chromium Loading repository data... Reading installed packages...
Information for package chromium:
Repository: openSUSE-12.2-Update Name: chromium Version: 24.0.1290.0-1.19.1 Arch: x86_64 Vendor: openSUSE Installed: No Status: not installed Installed Size: 120.9 MiB Summary: Google's opens source browser project Description: Chromium is the open-source project behind Google Chrome. We invite you to join us in our effort to help build a safer, faster, and more stable way for all Internet users to experience the web, and to create a powerful platform for developing a new generation of web applications. cbell@circe:~>
Again, note the Vendor and Repository lines.
I believe *that* is the entire point: 08:08 Crash121: ~ # rpm -qi chromium Name : chromium Version : 25.0.1329.0 Release : 2.1 Architecture: x86_64 Install Date: Mon Nov 19 09:07:32 2012 Group : Productivity/Networking/Web/Browsers Size : 145130967 License : BSD-3-Clause and LGPL-2.1+ Signature : RSA/SHA1, Sun Nov 18 16:31:15 2012, Key ID 45a1d0671abd1afb Source RPM : chromium-25.0.1329.0-2.1.src.rpm Build Date : Sun Nov 18 15:43:12 2012 Build Host : uschi Relocations : (not relocatable) Packager : packman@links2linux.de Vendor : http://packman.links2linux.de URL : http://code.google.com/p/chromium/ Summary : Google's opens source browser project RE: Vendor and Repository lines. But there is *no* "chromium" packaga available at packman, now. Chromium-ffmpeg *is* available. chromium-ffmpeg-25.0.1329.0-101.1.x86_64 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
[24.11.2012 14:20] [Patrick Shanahan]:
But there is *no* "chromium" packaga available at packman, now. Chromium-ffmpeg *is* available. chromium-ffmpeg-25.0.1329.0-101.1.x86_64
According to <http://tittiatcoke.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/chromium-moves-out-and-back-into-the-opensuse-obs/>, it's back in the openSUSE OBS again :-) cromium-ffmpeg stays at packman, in the OBS will be a part of that package called chromium-ffmpegsumo. HTH Werner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 24/11/12 16:23, Werner Flamme wrote:
it's back in the openSUSE OBS again
Thankfully Raymond posted in the forum with a clear explain: Dear openSUSE Users, Last week, I send out the message that it was no longer possible to build Chromium on the openSUSE OBS. This due to issues with ffmpeg, etc. Due to the big help of Ludwig Nussel, we resolved the issues and I can now inform you that we are building Chromium again in it's old location and that we will continue shipping Chromium with openSUSE. A new subpackage was introduced (chromium-ffmpegsumo) that builds a restricted form of the multimedia library required by Chromium. This library supports all the opensource codecs. On Packman we continue to build the chromium-ffmpeg package that contains the same multimedia library, but then with support for more proprietary codecs (equal to the ones supported by the official Chrome browser). If you install the chromium-ffmpeg package, then automatically the new chromium-ffmpegsumo package will be deinstalled. This is the correct behavior. I would like to thank Ludwig again for his help in resolving this matter. As a reminder: The Chromium browser is build in the network:chromium repository and from there updates to Factory and maintenance updates for 12.2/12.1 are shipped. I would like to apologize for the inconvienence this might cause due to swapping the repositories. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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