Bug 104870 - JFS not supported during installation
Well, that was fast. The issue got closed an' all. No more room for comments or discussion nor were any explanations offered. Frankly, not a particularly good example of "open" SUSE. Chris Mason wrote:
JFS won't be supported by SUSE in the SL10.0 release. So, it won't be available from the installer.
Please elaborate - will it: 1) have support for using JFS filesystems? 2) have support for booting off a JFS filesystem? Kurt Garloff wrote:
And no, we'll not offer JFS from YaST.
Any explanation as to why? And if at all, when will it be supported again? /Per Jessen, Zürich
Per Jessen wrote:
Well, that was fast. The issue got closed an' all. No more room for comments or discussion nor were any explanations offered. Frankly, not a particularly good example of "open" SUSE.
I agree. I seems that some guys at SUSE have to learn what an open development process really means. But hey, where at the start right now ;-)
Chris Mason wrote:
JFS won't be supported by SUSE in the SL10.0 release. So, it won't be available from the installer.
Nobody said that this is a "must have" for 10.0. But I hope that there will be any releases after 10.0 so maybe it could be included there. A discussion of this matter should be helpful. -- Jens Siebert
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:51:48 +0200 Jens Siebert <jsiebert@arcor.de> wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
Well, that was fast. The issue got closed an' all. No more room for comments or discussion nor were any explanations offered. Frankly, not a particularly good example of "open" SUSE.
I agree. I seems that some guys at SUSE have to learn what an open development process really means. But hey, where at the start right now ;-)
I should have given a more detailed answer in bugzilla. I'm very much in favor of the open development process, but unfortunately it doesn't mean infinite development resources ;) It's already quite late in the SL10 process and since JFS isn't supported by us I don't believe it is a good idea to include it in the installer. But JFS is in the mainline kernel, and so it will continue to be in the kernels we ship. We do still have the JFS utils and you will be able to manage your JFS filesystems with them. -chris
Chris Mason wrote:
I should have given a more detailed answer in bugzilla. I'm very much in favor of the open development process, but unfortunately it doesn't mean infinite development resources ;) It's already quite late in the SL10 process and since JFS isn't supported by us I don't believe it is a good idea to include it in the installer.
I can perfectly well accept that - if I was working with strict deadlines, QA and the whole thing, I would have done the same. One thing I'd like to question though is - full JFS support was there up until 9.3; adding it back in can't be a big deal? Correct the selection options in the installer for instance? Of course this triggers more testing and so forth, but still ...
But JFS is in the mainline kernel, and so it will continue to be in the kernels we ship. We do still have the JFS utils and you will be able to manage your JFS filesystems with them.
It would nice if a newly installed system was able to boot off a JFS root - i.e. to have the jfs module(s) added to the initrd automagically. Today it's no big deal setting up the filesystems first before installing, but then you still need to get a rescue system (or knoppix) up to add jfs to the initrd. Chris, thanks for elaborating on this - can you say anything about when we might expect full JFS support reinstated? /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/freetrial - managed anti-spam and anti-virus solution. Sign up for your free 30-day trial now!
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