I want to scan documents and photographs; I have fired up Kooka and read its documentation thoroughly. I find menu choices and icon buttons for doing many things with a scanned image, but so far have not discovered any way to induce the scanner to actually scan anything. This has to be a failing of mine, because it is not possible that anybody would write documentation for a scanning application without including a sentence in the spirit: "To make a scan, do <thus and so>". For all I know now, this application is not what I need at all for actually scanning material, but I see nothing in the documentation to tell me what else I need. If someone will point out to me what I have overlooked this point, I will be very grateful. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Stan Goodman
I want to scan documents and photographs; I have fired up Kooka and read its documentation thoroughly. I find menu choices and icon buttons for doing many things with a scanned image, but so far have not discovered any way to induce the scanner to actually scan anything.
Like all scanning applications: 1. First make sure your scanner is setup properly. You should see your device listed if you run: ,---- | scanimage -L `---- from a console. 2. set your options ("scan mode", "resolution", etc). 3. preview the scan by pressing "Preview Scan" and select the region to be scanned. 4. Do the final scan by pressing "Final Scan". However, for advance scanning I don't recommend kooka- one should use xsane. This is because kooka lacks a lot of advanced features such as picking white, grey and black points. batch scanning (if you have a doc feeder), etc. Charles
On Saturday 22 March 2008 18:49:44 Charles philip Chan wrote:
Stan Goodman
writes:
I want to scan documents and photographs; I have fired up Kooka and read its documentation thoroughly. I find menu choices and icon buttons for doing many things with a scanned image, but so far have not discovered any way to induce the scanner to actually scan anything.
Like all scanning applications:
1. First make sure your scanner is setup properly. You should see your device listed if you run:
,----
| scanimage -L
`----
sane-find-scanner identifies my scanner correctly [probably! =;-)8 ] as Epson Perfection 640U. scanimage -L says "No scanners were found", so I understand that I have a defective scanner.
from a console.
2. set your options ("scan mode", "resolution", etc).
3. preview the scan by pressing "Preview Scan" and select the region to be scanned.
4. Do the final scan by pressing "Final Scan".
I'm assuming that the above options and buttons would appear in Kooka somewhere if the scanner were working properly, which it seems not to be doing.
However, for advance scanning I don't recommend kooka- one should use xsane. This is because kooka lacks a lot of advanced features such as picking white, grey and black points. batch scanning (if you have a doc feeder), etc.
Although I don't think I have any special needs for anything advanced, I will check out xsane when I get a working scanner. Thanks for answering my question...
Charles
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Stan Goodman
sane-find-scanner identifies my scanner correctly [probably! =;-)8 ] as Epson Perfection 640U.
scanimage -L says "No scanners were found", so I understand that I have a defective scanner.
It sounds like your scanner is not setup properly in sane. The easiest way for you to do that is to use YAST/YAST2 ("Hardware"-> "Scanner"). Charles
On Saturday 22 March 2008 19:26:56 Charles philip Chan wrote:
Stan Goodman
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sane-find-scanner identifies my scanner correctly [probably! =;-)8 ] as Epson Perfection 640U.
scanimage -L says "No scanners were found", so I understand that I have a defective scanner.
It sounds like your scanner is not setup properly in sane. The easiest way for you to do that is to use YAST/YAST2 ("Hardware"-> "Scanner").
Charles
Quite right. But that was easily fixed, and it is now. I have found the previously missing "Preview Scan" and "Final Scan" buttons, because they appeared on a detached window that I never saw before. Many thanks, Charles. The final scan produced also a generic thumbnail (i.e. having nothing to do with the image). I'm assuming that there is a way to make it generate a real and more useful thumbnail; is there? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Stan Goodman
Quite right. But that was easily fixed, and it is now.
Glad that you got it working.
I have found the previously missing "Preview Scan" and "Final Scan" buttons, because they appeared on a detached window that I never saw before.
That pane most likely get detached by accident. By default it is at the bottom left portion of the main window like this: http://linuxreviews.org/kde/kde-user-persp/kooka-scanning.png
Many thanks, Charles.
No problem.
The final scan produced also a generic thumbnail (i.e. having nothing to do with the image). I'm assuming that there is a way to make it generate a real and more useful thumbnail; is there?
Strange, it should show a preview of the scanned image. Just tested it out and it is working. There is something wrong with your KDE setup- are previews showing up in Konqueror or Dolphin? Charles
On Saturday 22 March 2008 22:08:33 Charles philip Chan wrote:
Stan Goodman
writes:
Quite right. But that was easily fixed, and it is now.
Glad that you got it working.
I have found the previously missing "Preview Scan" and "Final Scan" buttons, because they appeared on a detached window that I never saw before.
That pane most likely get detached by accident. By default it is at the bottom left portion of the main window like this:
http://linuxreviews.org/kde/kde-user-persp/kooka-scanning.png
But now that I know that it exists, it matters not where it is.
Many thanks, Charles.
No problem.
The final scan produced also a generic thumbnail (i.e. having nothing to do with the image). I'm assuming that there is a way to make it generate a real and more useful thumbnail; is there?
Strange, it should show a preview of the scanned image. Just tested it out and it is working. There is something wrong with your KDE setup- are previews showing up in Konqueror or Dolphin?
Konqueror
Charles
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Stan Goodman
Strange, it should show a preview of the scanned image. Just tested it out and it is working. There is something wrong with your KDE setup- are previews showing up in Konqueror or Dolphin?
Konqueror
OK, thumbnailing is working in KDE. Hum, so previews of scanned images are not showing up like the screenshot I just sent you privately? Charles
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Goodman"
I want to scan documents and photographs; I have fired up Kooka and read its documentation thoroughly. I find menu choices and icon buttons for doing many things with a scanned image, but so far have not discovered any way to induce the scanner to actually scan anything.
This has to be a failing of mine, because it is not possible that anybody would write documentation for a scanning application without including a sentence in the spirit: "To make a scan, do <thus and so>".
For all I know now, this application is not what I need at all for actually scanning material, but I see nothing in the documentation to tell me what else I need.
If someone will point out to me what I have overlooked this point, I will be very grateful.
I don't use kde and never heard of kooka before, but the very first page of http://kooka.kde.org/doc/manual.php Says: A) You need sane first, and thus a sane-supported scanner, and provides a link to the sane site. B) How to perform a scan. ----quote---- Chapter 1. Introduction Kooka is a KDE application that enables easy scanning using SANE libraries. Therefore,SANE the package must be installed to use Kooka. Clear and concise use was the focus of its development. Character recognition is also provided by the built-in text recognition program gocr. Install gocr to use this functionality. After character recognition is complete, the recognized material can be opened in the text editor Kate with just one click, where you can edit the contents. Chapter 2. Application Instructions The web site http://www.mostang.com/sane has information about supported scanners. Refer to it before purchasing a scanner, if possible. Start Kooka from a console by simply entering kooka. Create a link on the KDE desktop, which uses a scanner icon, if desired. The main window in Kooka consists of three frames. At the top, see both icon and a menu panels. Use the mouse to enlarge or reduce the windows as needed. The navigation window consists of two tabs, which allow you to switch between the Preview and the integrated file browser called the Gallery. The working directory is displayed in the lower part of the window along with the directory where the scan will be saved. Make your scanner-dependent settings, which are dependent on the scanner you have connected, in the lower left window. Usually, these are settings for resolution, brightness and contrast, scanning mode (e.g., color, gray, or binary), and for gamma values. Configure your settings here first. Afterwards, initiate the preview scan with Preview. If the Preview tab in the upper window is selected, see the results there. Select the various formats in the preview image itself to define the final dimensions. The User setting is recommended for this, so you select the area to scan in the preview display with the mouse. After this is done, click Scan to scan the selection made in the preview. After scanning, you will be asked in which format to save the image whether to make this your standard format (without being prompted to confirm your selection in the future). ---quote--- I would have assumed that when kooka was installed, yast would have automatically installed sane also as a dependancy. So all you should have to do now is ensure your scanner is one sane supports. You might need to look at this too: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST_Scanner -- Brian K. White brian@aljex.com http://www.myspace.com/KEYofR +++++[>+++[>+++++>+++++++<<-]<-]>>+.>.+++++.+++++++.-.[>+<---]>++. filePro BBx Linux SCO FreeBSD #callahans Satriani Filk! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 22 March 2008 19:00:05 Brian K. White wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Goodman"
To: "openSuSE Forum" Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:21 PM Subject: [opensuse] Kooka I want to scan documents and photographs; I have fired up Kooka and read its documentation thoroughly. I find menu choices and icon buttons for doing many things with a scanned image, but so far have not discovered any way to induce the scanner to actually scan anything.
This has to be a failing of mine, because it is not possible that anybody would write documentation for a scanning application without including a sentence in the spirit: "To make a scan, do <thus and so>".
For all I know now, this application is not what I need at all for actually scanning material, but I see nothing in the documentation to tell me what else I need.
If someone will point out to me what I have overlooked this point, I will be very grateful.
I don't use kde and never heard of kooka before, but the very first page of http://kooka.kde.org/doc/manual.php
Says: A) You need sane first, and thus a sane-supported scanner, and provides a link to the sane site. B) How to perform a scan.
As I said in my query (see above), "I have fired up Kooka and read its documentation thoroughly. That led me to check if SANE was installed (thus my earlier query today about a YaST crash when trying to update it unnecessarily). I know from experience that my scanner (Epson 640U) is supported by SANE. Now that I know that my scanner seems not to be functional, It is clear why it did nothing. The fact remains that what I expected to find in the documentation is not there, and that the documentation is much like other KDE documentation I have encountered lately, inexcusably slapdash and deficient. Thank you for the copy of the documentation just below. I wil visit the URL at the bottom of your message. ----quote snipped----
You might need to look at this too: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST_Scanner
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