On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

Il 28/11/2013 10:56, C ha scritto:

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On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Both attempting to use skype (latest available version) installed from rpm package or from dynamic version, I noticed issues on audio which is not working on openSUSE 13.1 64bits.

I think to have installed all dependencies (they went installed during rpm installation of skype: a lot of 32-bits stuff).

Two possibilities. First, is alsa-plugins-pulse-32bit installed?

Second, if it is, maybe it's a Pulse setting thing? I've had to edit /etc/pulse/default.pa and add tsched=0 to this line:

load-module module-udev-detect tsched=0

C.

1)= YES

2)= I can give it a try but why I need to do it if with other app requiring audio all works perfectly, is it a specific SkyPe needs?

I can't pretend to know why it works :-) The tsched=0 option seems to fix things up when Audio kind of works with Skype, but it's all garbled and stuttering. Add the option, restart the sound system (or reboot) and no more stuttering. You didn't state how audio wasn't working, so I just suggested two things that I've had to do on my setup. Francesco... what did you do to "fix" Skype for 13.1? C. -- openSUSE 12.3 x86_64, KDE 4.11 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

After some testing I found that it was a pulse problem related to latency. Setting PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=30 did the trick. Regards, Francesco On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 6:44 PM, C wrote:

On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 28/11/2013 10:56, C ha scritto:

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On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Both attempting to use skype (latest available version) installed from rpm package or from dynamic version, I noticed issues on audio which is not working on openSUSE 13.1 64bits.

I think to have installed all dependencies (they went installed during rpm installation of skype: a lot of 32-bits stuff).

Two possibilities. First, is alsa-plugins-pulse-32bit installed?

Second, if it is, maybe it's a Pulse setting thing? I've had to edit /etc/pulse/default.pa and add tsched=0 to this line:

load-module module-udev-detect tsched=0

C.

1)= YES

2)= I can give it a try but why I need to do it if with other app requiring audio all works perfectly, is it a specific SkyPe needs?

I can't pretend to know why it works :-)

The tsched=0 option seems to fix things up when Audio kind of works with Skype, but it's all garbled and stuttering. Add the option, restart the sound system (or reboot) and no more stuttering. You didn't state how audio wasn't working, so I just suggested two things that I've had to do on my setup.

Francesco... what did you do to "fix" Skype for 13.1?

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Il 28/11/2013 11:14, Francesco Teodori ha scritto:

I packaged myself openSUSE rpms, after applying a patch, solving the issue. Feel free to try http://www.teodori.org/repository/utilities/opensuse13.1/current.html

On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Hi,

Both attempting to use skype (latest available version) installed from rpm package or from dynamic version, I noticed issues on audio which is not working on openSUSE 13.1 64bits.

I think to have installed all dependencies (they went installed during rpm installation of skype: a lot of 32-bits stuff).

Are there any particular details I'm missing?

Other question:

If I try to execute the skype binary within Nautilus of the dynamic version which is a tar.bz2 archive available from SkyPe official page, I get the error (from Nautilus window) that it is a shared library application and there is not any default application available on system to execute the file, then it is proposed to find on the Internet but nothing is found.

It seems something missing into Nautilus to execute shared-library mime-types.

Cheers,

-- Marco Calistri (amdturion)

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Interesting! I will give it a try. Grazie mille! Cheers, -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Hi james, the problem must be your system related, it works on all the machines in my lab. Before patching I had no audio, never experienced distorted audio On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 6:45 PM, James Knott wrote:

Francesco Teodori wrote:

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I packaged myself openSUSE rpms, after applying a patch, solving the issue. Feel free to try http://www.teodori.org/repository/utilities/opensuse13.1/current.html

I tried your package but, as with the original, the audio is very distorted. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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Il 28/11/2013 11:14, Francesco Teodori ha scritto:

I packaged myself openSUSE rpms, after applying a patch, solving the issue. Feel free to try http://www.teodori.org/repository/utilities/opensuse13.1/current.html

On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Hi,

Both attempting to use skype (latest available version) installed from rpm package or from dynamic version, I noticed issues on audio which is not working on openSUSE 13.1 64bits.

I think to have installed all dependencies (they went installed during rpm installation of skype: a lot of 32-bits stuff).

Are there any particular details I'm missing?

Other question:

If I try to execute the skype binary within Nautilus of the dynamic version which is a tar.bz2 archive available from SkyPe official page, I get the error (from Nautilus window) that it is a shared library application and there is not any default application available on system to execute the file, then it is proposed to find on the Internet but nothing is found.

It seems something missing into Nautilus to execute shared-library mime-types.

Cheers,

-- Marco Calistri (amdturion)

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Francesco your package works perfectly!! I suggest you propose the admins to put your package into official 64 bit repos. By the way I face a weird problem attempting to configure the app in Alacarte which doesn't allow to select the right skype.png icon it is not accepted and in the Menu the app is showed without icon. May be is a bug in Alacarte! Cheers, -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Il 29/11/2013 12:06, Francesco Teodori ha scritto:

Thank you for your feedback, Marco, I am happy to know that. About your suggestion, skype is a proprietary software, though available for free, so I am not sure it will be possible. About the icon, I am a kde user, I had never noticed that behaviour. Maybe I will try to fix. Ciao e grazie ancora, Francesco

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 28/11/2013 11:14, Francesco Teodori ha scritto:

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I packaged myself openSUSE rpms, after applying a patch, solving the issue. Feel free to try http://www.teodori.org/repository/utilities/opensuse13.1/current.html

On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Hi,

Both attempting to use skype (latest available version) installed from rpm package or from dynamic version, I noticed issues on audio which is not working on openSUSE 13.1 64bits.

I think to have installed all dependencies (they went installed during rpm installation of skype: a lot of 32-bits stuff).

Are there any particular details I'm missing?

Other question:

If I try to execute the skype binary within Nautilus of the dynamic version which is a tar.bz2 archive available from SkyPe official page, I get the error (from Nautilus window) that it is a shared library application and there is not any default application available on system to execute the file, then it is proposed to find on the Internet but nothing is found.

It seems something missing into Nautilus to execute shared-library mime-types.

Cheers,

-- Marco Calistri (amdturion)

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Francesco your package works perfectly!!

I suggest you propose the admins to put your package into official 64 bit repos.

By the way I face a weird problem attempting to configure the app in Alacarte which doesn't allow to select the right skype.png icon it is not accepted and in the Menu the app is showed without icon.

May be is a bug in Alacarte!

Cheers,

-- Marco Calistri (amdturion)

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Francesco the icon issue is not due your skype pkg but due Alacarte/Gnome Saluti, -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Am 29.11.2013 17:06, schrieb Greg Freemyer:

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Francesco Teodori wrote:

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Thank you for your feedback, Marco, I am happy to know that. About your suggestion, skype is a proprietary software, though available for free, so I am not sure it will be possible. About the icon, I am a kde user, I had never noticed that behaviour. Maybe I will try to fix. Ciao e grazie ancora, Francesco

Francesco,

I assume you know packman has their own instance of OBS with a lower legal bar of entry (I'm not sure why, but it is a fact). It would be great if your opensuse packages could be hosted there.

I found your google-talkplugin RPM as well a couple days ago, and it too would be great to have on packman (if appropriate).

slightly offtopic. I seem to have no issue with the talkplugin provided by Google. Is that one still needed? And another slightly offtopic question. I haven't found any sources for Francesco's packages therefore I'm a bit hesitant to install them (no offense ;-)) Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Dear Francesco, On Freitag, 29. November 2013 18:08:18 Francesco Teodori wrote:

No problem Wolfgang, google talk plugin issue depends on the libudev version you are using. Depending on the packages you have installed, you may experience a sigfault issue. My rpm solves that problem and is optimized for openSUSE: I removed not needed files. About the sources, I do not publish them for lack of space: I found that few people are interested in sources. If you are, I can let you access them. Both skype and googletalk are closed source proprietary software, I patched the rpm package not the core. No risk.

Please be aware, that a _lot_ of people hesitate to install your packages, as it is no pleasure to verify the packages. In fact, that would be more work than grabbing the packages from the original source (that isn't _much_ better security wise, but if _those_ packages are compromised, many people will suffer. Due to the diversity, it would be hard for a bad guy to hide his offensive code for a longer time. The whole story is a bit different for providers like you. But, don't feel offended, _please_. Your work is highly appreciated. I just want to give you an impression of somebody, that noticed your work, but because I didn't find the src.rpms, I hesitated to install them. I just asked you, what you did.. Remember? BTW, if you create binary only rpms, it is possible to flag the original source files as nosource (see "The nosource Tag" in http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/s1-rpm-inside-tags.html). That way, the src rpms are tiny, and be assured, that a couple of members from this forum and others _will_ contribute to your packages, if you make them available this way. In order to get back on topic, here's what I did. I installed the original skype rpm, moved the binary to skype.bin, and added this script: #!/bin/sh export PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=40 exec skype.bin As you can see, I even needed to raise the latency value. With 30, on the other day, when I got back from launch to the office, my system produced some strange noise. Stopping skype stopped it. After setting this value to 40, it never happened again (and skype produces many sounds over the day here..) Thank you for the valuable tip. Cheers, Pete

Best regards, Francesco

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Wolfgang Rosenauer

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Am 29.11.2013 17:06, schrieb Greg Freemyer:

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On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Francesco Teodori

wrote:

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Thank you for your feedback, Marco, I am happy to know that. About your suggestion, skype is a proprietary software, though available for free, so I am not sure it will be possible. About the icon, I am a kde user, I had never noticed that behaviour. Maybe I will try to fix. Ciao e grazie ancora,

Francesco

Francesco,

I assume you know packman has their own instance of OBS with a lower legal bar of entry (I'm not sure why, but it is a fact). It would be great if your opensuse packages could be hosted there.

I found your google-talkplugin RPM as well a couple days ago, and it too would be great to have on packman (if appropriate).

slightly offtopic. I seem to have no issue with the talkplugin provided by Google. Is that one still needed? And another slightly offtopic question. I haven't found any sources for Francesco's packages therefore I'm a bit hesitant to install them (no offense ;-))

Wolfgang

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Thank you very much for that. Wolfgang, you will find a bugzilla about google-talkplugin direct from google not working with openSUSE 13.1 at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=848834 Greg -- Greg Freemyer On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Francesco Teodori wrote:

Hi all, due to requests I made source rpms files available for download. Best regards, Francesco

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:

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Dear Francesco,

On Freitag, 29. November 2013 18:08:18 Francesco Teodori wrote:

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No problem Wolfgang, google talk plugin issue depends on the libudev version you are using. Depending on the packages you have installed, you may experience a sigfault issue. My rpm solves that problem and is optimized for openSUSE: I removed not needed files. About the sources, I do not publish them for lack of space: I found that few people are interested in sources. If you are, I can let you access them. Both skype and googletalk are closed source proprietary software, I patched the rpm package not the core. No risk.

Please be aware, that a _lot_ of people hesitate to install your packages, as it is no pleasure to verify the packages. In fact, that would be more work than grabbing the packages from the original source (that isn't _much_ better security wise, but if _those_ packages are compromised, many people will suffer.

Due to the diversity, it would be hard for a bad guy to hide his offensive code for a longer time. The whole story is a bit different for providers like you. But, don't feel offended, _please_. Your work is highly appreciated. I just want to give you an impression of somebody, that noticed your work, but because I didn't find the src.rpms, I hesitated to install them. I just asked you, what you did.. Remember?

BTW, if you create binary only rpms, it is possible to flag the original source files as nosource (see "The nosource Tag" in http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/s1-rpm-inside-tags.html). That way, the src rpms are tiny, and be assured, that a couple of members from this forum and others _will_ contribute to your packages, if you make them available this way.

In order to get back on topic, here's what I did. I installed the original skype rpm, moved the binary to skype.bin, and added this script:

#!/bin/sh export PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=40 exec skype.bin

As you can see, I even needed to raise the latency value. With 30, on the other day, when I got back from launch to the office, my system produced some strange noise. Stopping skype stopped it. After setting this value to 40, it never happened again (and skype produces many sounds over the day here..)

Thank you for the valuable tip.

Cheers, Pete

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Best regards, Francesco

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Wolfgang Rosenauer

wrote:

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Am 29.11.2013 17:06, schrieb Greg Freemyer:

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On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Francesco Teodori

wrote:

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Thank you for your feedback, Marco, I am happy to know that. About your suggestion, skype is a proprietary software, though available for free, so I am not sure it will be possible. About the icon, I am a kde user, I had never noticed that behaviour. Maybe I will try to fix. Ciao e grazie ancora,

Francesco

Francesco,

I assume you know packman has their own instance of OBS with a lower legal bar of entry (I'm not sure why, but it is a fact). It would be great if your opensuse packages could be hosted there.

I found your google-talkplugin RPM as well a couple days ago, and it too would be great to have on packman (if appropriate).

slightly offtopic. I seem to have no issue with the talkplugin provided by Google. Is that one still needed? And another slightly offtopic question. I haven't found any sources for Francesco's packages therefore I'm a bit hesitant to install them (no offense ;-))

Wolfgang

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