[opensuse] Recommended - small lightweight DMS - to be able to catalog/search files by tags, type, etc.
26 Jul
2014
26 Jul
'14
9:03 p.m.
All,
I'm looking for a small light document management system that will allow me
to catalog 1000s of miscellaneous files into a searchable list. This is
primarily for all the code and script snippets I've collected over the past 15
years but I would also like to include the myriad of little tricks/tips files
I've saved and squirreled away. A smart directory layout and grep have always
fit the bill, but I've got to the point where I know I have a snippet of X I've
saved, but *where is it, and what was that function called?* (sound familiar?)
NO - I don't want beagle (or anything like it). I don't want some full-text
scan and index of all files. Those are miserable for code and I don't want some
200 Meg index laying around somewhere. I'm looking for something that will just
hold the filename, a description, and then possibly a list of user-defined tags
I could assign and filter by.
For code doxygen is nice, but worthless for small tips/tricks, howto, or
general readme type files. For general tips/tricks/readme/config type info,
basket has been great. I've looked into many of the so-called DMS packages, e.g.
opendocman, kimios, LetoDMS, logicaldoc, owndms, SeedDMS, xinco, etc., but most
are like sledgehammers for swatting this fly. I don't mind if it is a database
backend or flat-files, but I want something simple to add information to and
simple to browse and update.
Does anybody have any favorite way to solve this "I'm getting to old to
remember where every file is" problem? It doesn't even have to be a DMS per-se,
if somebody has a slick way to cut down the time spent playing the "where is
that file" game -- that's what I'm looking for.
What the ideal would be would be something that used a small database, like
sqlite3 to hold the filenames, descriptions, keywords, and tags; quick logic to
add all files in a dir matching some simple extension pattern; then most
importantly a quick/efficient way to browse the list of files collected and
assign descriptions and tags (something like mc - view/edit); along with a quick
query interface to find the stuff when your done. It could even be a command
line query.
So on the wild chance somebody already has a favorite silver-bullet to solve
this problem, I thought I'd ask.
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27 Jul
27 Jul
6:49 a.m.
On 27/07/14 03:03, David C. Rankin wrote:
All,
I'm looking for a small light document management system that will
allow me to catalog 1000s of miscellaneous files into a searchable list.
This is primarily for all the code and script snippets I've collected
over the past 15 years but I would also like to include the myriad of
little tricks/tips files I've saved and squirreled away. A smart
directory layout and grep have always fit the bill, but I've got to the
point where I know I have a snippet of X I've saved, but *where is it,
and what was that function called?* (sound familiar?)
NO - I don't want beagle (or anything like it). I don't want some
full-text scan and index of all files. Those are miserable for code and
I don't want some 200 Meg index laying around somewhere. I'm looking for
something that will just hold the filename, a description, and then
possibly a list of user-defined tags I could assign and filter by.
For code doxygen is nice, but worthless for small tips/tricks, howto,
or general readme type files. For general tips/tricks/readme/config type
info, basket has been great. I've looked into many of the so-called DMS
packages, e.g. opendocman, kimios, LetoDMS, logicaldoc, owndms, SeedDMS,
xinco, etc., but most are like sledgehammers for swatting this fly. I
don't mind if it is a database backend or flat-files, but I want
something simple to add information to and simple to browse and update.
Does anybody have any favorite way to solve this "I'm getting to old
to remember where every file is" problem? It doesn't even have to be a
DMS per-se, if somebody has a slick way to cut down the time spent
playing the "where is that file" game -- that's what I'm looking for.
What the ideal would be would be something that used a small
database, like sqlite3 to hold the filenames, descriptions, keywords,
and tags; quick logic to add all files in a dir matching some simple
extension pattern; then most importantly a quick/efficient way to browse
the list of files collected and assign descriptions and tags (something
like mc - view/edit); along with a quick query interface to find the
stuff when your done. It could even be a command line query.
So on the wild chance somebody already has a favorite silver-bullet
to solve this problem, I thought I'd ask.
It might seem almost too simple, and the DE I'm going to mention might
make you squirm, but from what you've described, that functionality can
be provided merely by adding tags, comments/descriptions to all the
files in a KDE file manager application such as Dolphin / Konqueror (and
perhaps there are others that integrate with this, not sure). I haven't
used GNOME 3 so I don't know how it handles things, and as for the rest,
I don't think most have this kind of thing built in by default.
I'm not even sure how much this depends on the functionality of
Nepomuk/Baloo, since you wouldn't be scanning the content of files, so
no Strigi indexer. You can add ratings, comments and tags without having
to index files. The advantage is that this is something integral to the
DE and will hence stay updated for as long as KDE does, whereas if you
rely on a separate application, it might rot and take all your tagged
data with it.
Using the search function in Dolphin you would then easily be able to
filter by tags, filename, description, etc. There's relatively new
functionality built in espcecially for this purpose. Indeed there were
some in the KDE camp who wanted the file manager to behave in this way
and have users forget about organizing things by directories / filenames
/ dates themselves. I don't concur but having a system that can adapt to
suit all-comers is typical of the KDE approach.
And if you're averse to KDE, maybe some of these elements can still be
used in another DE, more so perhaps once the KDE Frameworks 5 become
adopted and little bits of its functionality are more portable.
Peter
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28 Jul
28 Jul
6:53 p.m.
On 07/27/2014 05:49 AM, Peter wrote:
It might seem almost too simple, and the DE I'm
going to mention might make you
squirm, but from what you've described, that functionality can be provided
merely by adding tags, comments/descriptions to all the files in a KDE file
manager application such as Dolphin / Konqueror (and perhaps there are others
that integrate with this, not sure). I haven't used GNOME 3 so I don't know how
it handles things, and as for the rest, I don't think most have this kind of
thing built in by default.
I'm not even sure how much this depends on the functionality of Nepomuk/Baloo,
since you wouldn't be scanning the content of files, so no Strigi indexer. You
can add ratings, comments and tags without having to index files. The advantage
is that this is something integral to the DE and will hence stay updated for as
long as KDE does, whereas if you rely on a separate application, it might rot
and take all your tagged data with it.
Using the search function in Dolphin you would then easily be able to filter by
tags, filename, description, etc. There's relatively new functionality built in
espcecially for this purpose. Indeed there were some in the KDE camp who wanted
the file manager to behave in this way and have users forget about organizing
things by directories / filenames / dates themselves. I don't concur but having
a system that can adapt to suit all-comers is typical of the KDE approach.
And if you're averse to KDE, maybe some of these elements can still be used in
another DE, more so perhaps once the KDE Frameworks 5 become adopted and little
bits of its functionality are more portable.
Something like that from a data standpoint, something as simple as an extension
to the basic functionality of konqueror is just about what I'm looking for.
Something that would provide a couple of additional fields like user-supplied
description, and then keywords or tags that could be filtered by is really all I
need.
I'm not adverse to kde4, I just don't like the way it works. One of the most
important criteria that I would have for the DMS is that it not be tied to any
one desktop. I want something I can make use of regardless of whether I'm
sitting at my laptop or connected via ssh from my phone and I want the backend
OS independent. That's why I was thinking more along the lines of a db backend
or flat-file backend.
Thanks for the thoughts.
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27 Jul
27 Jul
12:26 p.m.
On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 20:03:35 -0500
"David C. Rankin" <drankinatty(a)suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
All,
I'm looking for a small light document management system that will
allow me to catalog 1000s of miscellaneous files into a searchable
list. This is primarily for all the code and script snippets I've
collected over the past 15 years but I would also like to include the
myriad of little tricks/tips files I've saved and squirreled away. A
smart directory layout and grep have always fit the bill, but I've
got to the point where I know I have a snippet of X I've saved, but
*where is it, and what was that function called?* (sound familiar?)
It's been a long time since I've even thought about it but I used to
use a script that someone had cooked up some 30 years ago that did
almost exactly what you want using awk. I don't recall the name of it
or the author, though. I'll have to dig around in my stack of stuff...
I think it's settled down somewhere around the Pliocene Epoch...
This could take a while. Sorry.
jd
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31 Jul
31 Jul
8:03 p.m.
On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 20:03:35 -0500
"David C. Rankin" <drankinatty(a)suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
All,
I'm looking for a small light document management system that will
allow me to catalog 1000s of miscellaneous files into a searchable
list. This is primarily for all the code and script snippets I've
collected over the past 15 years but I would also like to include the
myriad of little tricks/tips files I've saved and squirreled away. A
smart directory layout and grep have always fit the bill, but I've
got to the point where I know I have a snippet of X I've saved, but
*where is it, and what was that function called?* (sound familiar?)
[snip]
Sorry to take so long. I found the CD-R it was on and it is no longer
readable. So much for "bargain" CD-R's from Fry's.
I thought I had another copy but I haven't found it yet.
IIRC it uses awk, sed and grep to get the file name and parse the first
comment block for a description but it expected the description to be
in a standard form or style. It would then produce a tab delimited index
with one file per line giving the file name, the version, date and a
brief description.
jd
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1 Aug
1 Aug
3:11 p.m.
On 07/31/2014 07:03 PM, jdebert wrote:
[snip]
Sorry to take so long. I found the CD-R it was on and it is no longer
readable. So much for "bargain" CD-R's from Fry's.
I thought I had another copy but I haven't found it yet.
IIRC it uses awk, sed and grep to get the file name and parse the first
comment block for a description but it expected the description to be
in a standard form or style. It would then produce a tab delimited index
with one file per line giving the file name, the version, date and a
brief description.
Thank you for taking the time to look. That sounds like a simple approach. Just
include some doxygen type comment block in the files you want tracked/indexed
limited to 'limit' number of lines, and launch some 'find /path -type file
-name
"*.{blah}" -exec head -n$limit '{}' \; | while IFS=$'delim\n'
read line; do
<parse as needed> > yourindex; done'. That would create your index that a
second
simple scripts could grep/awk and format the output as desired.
Thanks again.
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