Hard drive limitations
Stupid question time. I could not find anything related in the FAQ or the hardware database online. Is the 128G (or 137G if you count like a hard drive manufacturer) ATA hard drive limitation a problem with the interface hardware or the software driver? So, if I get a 250G hard drive can I expect SuSE 9.2 to be able to use all of it? On the assumption this is an interface problem is there a list of supported ATA interfaces/chipsets that SuSE 9.2 can use? Thanks Ken Jennings
On Sunday 31 Oct 2004 05:35 am, Synthetic Cartoonz wrote:
Stupid question time. I could not find anything related in the FAQ or the hardware database online.
Is the 128G (or 137G if you count like a hard drive manufacturer) ATA hard drive limitation a problem with the interface hardware or the software driver?
So, if I get a 250G hard drive can I expect SuSE 9.2 to be able to use all of it?
I have a 160G (~ 150 'real' GB) which SuSE 9.1 recognises without problem (although it doesn't get detected by the BIOS and so is not usable in some machines) Dylan
On the assumption this is an interface problem is there a list of supported ATA interfaces/chipsets that SuSE 9.2 can use?
Thanks Ken Jennings
-- "I see your Schwartz is as big as mine" -Dark Helmet
Synthetic Cartoonz wrote:
Stupid question time. I could not find anything related in the FAQ or the hardware database online.
Is the 128G (or 137G if you count like a hard drive manufacturer) ATA hard drive limitation a problem with the interface hardware or the software driver?
So, if I get a 250G hard drive can I expect SuSE 9.2 to be able to use all of it?
On the assumption this is an interface problem is there a list of supported ATA interfaces/chipsets that SuSE 9.2 can use?
That's a hard limit, unless the inteface changes to include more than 28 sector address bits.
On Sunday 31 Oct 2004 14:57 pm, James Knott wrote:
Synthetic Cartoonz wrote:
Stupid question time. I could not find anything related in the FAQ or the hardware database online.
Is the 128G (or 137G if you count like a hard drive manufacturer) ATA hard drive limitation a problem with the interface hardware or the software driver?
So, if I get a 250G hard drive can I expect SuSE 9.2 to be able to use all of it?
On the assumption this is an interface problem is there a list of supported ATA interfaces/chipsets that SuSE 9.2 can use?
That's a hard limit, unless the inteface changes to include more than 28 sector address bits.
If this is the case, how can manufacturers justify producing "250MB" IDE ATA dives? Dylan -- "I see your Schwartz is as big as mine" -Dark Helmet
On Sunday, 31 October 2004 15.13, Dylan wrote:
On Sunday 31 Oct 2004 14:57 pm, James Knott wrote:
Synthetic Cartoonz wrote:
Stupid question time. I could not find anything related in the FAQ or the hardware database online.
Is the 128G (or 137G if you count like a hard drive manufacturer) ATA hard drive limitation a problem with the interface hardware or the software driver?
So, if I get a 250G hard drive can I expect SuSE 9.2 to be able to use all of it?
On the assumption this is an interface problem is there a list of supported ATA interfaces/chipsets that SuSE 9.2 can use?
That's a hard limit, unless the inteface changes to include more than 28 sector address bits.
If this is the case, how can manufacturers justify producing "250MB" IDE ATA dives?
I have no problems with a parallell ATA 160GB drive, is this 128GB limit for serial ATA?
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 16:21:37 +0200
Anders Johansson
On Sunday, 31 October 2004 15.13, Dylan wrote:
On Sunday 31 Oct 2004 14:57 pm, James Knott wrote:
Synthetic Cartoonz wrote:
Stupid question time. I could not find anything related in the FAQ or the hardware database online.
Is the 128G (or 137G if you count like a hard drive manufacturer) ATA hard drive limitation a problem with the interface hardware or the software driver?
So, if I get a 250G hard drive can I expect SuSE 9.2 to be able to use all of it?
On the assumption this is an interface problem is there a list of supported ATA interfaces/chipsets that SuSE 9.2 can use?
That's a hard limit, unless the inteface changes to include more than 28 sector address bits.
If this is the case, how can manufacturers justify producing "250MB" IDE ATA dives?
I have no problems with a parallell ATA 160GB drive, is this 128GB limit for serial ATA?
Hmm.. All I can say is, I have a 300GB S-ATA Maxtor drive and it's working (with no problems so far) with this Silicon Image chipset (?) that is on ASUS P4C800-Deluxe... Anyway, IOW, that's not a limit for S-ATA. -- - E - on SUSE 9.1 | blackbox 0.65 | copperwalls was here ;) "Those knowing your name will trust in you." - Psalms 9:10
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 16:21:37 +0200, Anders Johansson
On Sunday, 31 October 2004 15.13, Dylan wrote:
On Sunday 31 Oct 2004 14:57 pm, James Knott wrote:
Synthetic Cartoonz wrote:
Stupid question time. I could not find anything related in the FAQ or the hardware database online.
Is the 128G (or 137G if you count like a hard drive manufacturer) ATA hard drive limitation a problem with the interface hardware or the software driver?
So, if I get a 250G hard drive can I expect SuSE 9.2 to be able to use all of it?
On the assumption this is an interface problem is there a list of supported ATA interfaces/chipsets that SuSE 9.2 can use?
That's a hard limit, unless the inteface changes to include more than 28 sector address bits.
If this is the case, how can manufacturers justify producing "250MB" IDE ATA dives?
I have no problems with a parallell ATA 160GB drive, is this 128GB limit for serial ATA?
From what I have seen, if you have a ATA-100 controller, you will be
It is a ATA limit with both drivers and controller chips. limited to 128/137 GB. If you have a ATA-133 controller/drivers, you can see all of larger drives. I have tried several different ATA-133 controllers, linux has supported them all. (Even older versions like SuSE 8.0). Windows 2K needs extra drivers loaded. :) FYI: I saw a dos-booted system that claimed to see a full 250GB SATA drive. As soon as the drive usage went past 128/137 GB, the drive "crashed". I was just observing, so I did not have the chance to test anything, but I suspect something in the dos driver wrapped and the filesystem became corrupted. Greg -- Greg Freemyer
On Sunday, 31 October 2004 15.54, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 16:21:37 +0200, Anders Johansson
wrote: I have no problems with a parallell ATA 160GB drive, is this 128GB limit for serial ATA?
It is a ATA limit with both drivers and controller chips.
From what I have seen, if you have a ATA-100 controller, you will be
limited to 128/137 GB.
If you have a ATA-133 controller/drivers, you can see all of larger drives.
Thanks for this, great info. I don't have the docs for my motherboard anymore, but I thought for sure my controller was ATA-100, but evidently it must be 133
I have tried several different ATA-133 controllers, linux has supported them all. (Even older versions like SuSE 8.0).
Windows 2K needs extra drivers loaded. :)
FYI: I saw a dos-booted system that claimed to see a full 250GB SATA drive. As soon as the drive usage went past 128/137 GB, the drive "crashed". I was just observing, so I did not have the chance to test anything, but I suspect something in the dos driver wrapped and the filesystem became corrupted.
Ah yes, that's quality craftsmanship for you :)
Anders wrote regarding 'Re: [SLE] Hard drive limitations' on Sun, Oct 31 at 08:21:
On Sunday, 31 October 2004 15.13, Dylan wrote:
On Sunday 31 Oct 2004 14:57 pm, James Knott wrote:
Synthetic Cartoonz wrote:
Stupid question time. I could not find anything related in the FAQ or the hardware database online.
Is the 128G (or 137G if you count like a hard drive manufacturer) ATA hard drive limitation a problem with the interface hardware or the software driver?
So, if I get a 250G hard drive can I expect SuSE 9.2 to be able to use all of it?
On the assumption this is an interface problem is there a list of supported ATA interfaces/chipsets that SuSE 9.2 can use?
That's a hard limit, unless the inteface changes to include more than 28 sector address bits.
If this is the case, how can manufacturers justify producing "250MB" IDE ATA dives?
I have no problems with a parallell ATA 160GB drive, is this 128GB limit for serial ATA?
It's a limit for old IDE controllers. ATA/ATAPI 6 (which is the 100MB/s standard, AKA UDMA/100 or ATA/100) expanded LBA from 28 bits to 48 bits. The old 28-bit LBA limited drives to 137GB, but anyone with a 100MB/s or faster controller should be able to use the new big ATA drives. --Danny
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