Do I have to drop Linux? [Was: SuSE as firewall/router for Windows]
Haven´t anobody tried to set up Linux as a Firewall / Router in a Windows environment? The problem as described in my mail here, is that the clients on the LAN cannot see the servers in the DMZ as part of the Windows network (in Windows Explorer e.g.). Do I have to drop Linux and set up another router? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: SuSE as firewall/router for Windows Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:57:02 +0100 From: Kaare Rasmussen <kar@webline.dk> To: suse-linux-e@suse.com I need to set up a SuSE Linux 7.0 as a firewall / router in a Windows environment. I have configured /etc/rc.config.d/firewall.rc.config very standard, I think where I have the clients on the local side as 192.168.1.x. In the DMZ I have some servers (with public IP adresses) that I need to see as a Windows client. What do I do to make network browsing and the like work? I thought that if I pointed to the external WINS server, it would work, but apparantly I need something else. Can anyone tell me what that is?
Yes , I am using an old P17 W 16 meg ram , pci slot with networkcard and isa for the modem. Forget suse on the router/firewall , go to www.freesco.org and download and copy the router to a floppy , oinsert it and reboot. Fist time in boots it will go into set up mode where you can configure it all. there are help files and documentation as well as a technical suport list on www.freesco.org as well. You may need to run the set up a few times to get it right. whats nice is ita all on the flopy , remove it and reboot , and the box is back to normal. Freesco has built in firewall as well. You then set the winodws boxes to see the router. You will need to install and set up tcp/ip for your network adapteers then (doubclick on NN) and set up DNS with the router name , and router name in DNS search order , workgroup , ip ect.. That way it will see the router and use it for lookups of www and dns/internt numbers. At 09:31 AM 1/19/2001 +0100, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
Haven´t anobody tried to set up Linux as a Firewall / Router in a Windows environment?
The problem as described in my mail here, is that the clients on the LAN cannot see the servers in the DMZ as part of the Windows network (in Windows Explorer e.g.).
Do I have to drop Linux and set up another router?
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: SuSE as firewall/router for Windows Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:57:02 +0100 From: Kaare Rasmussen <kar@webline.dk> To: suse-linux-e@suse.com
I need to set up a SuSE Linux 7.0 as a firewall / router in a Windows environment.
I have configured /etc/rc.config.d/firewall.rc.config very standard, I think where I have the clients on the local side as 192.168.1.x. In the DMZ I have some servers (with public IP adresses) that I need to see as a Windows client. What do I do to make network browsing and the like work?
I thought that if I pointed to the external WINS server, it would work, but apparantly I need something else.
Can anyone tell me what that is?
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also sprach Kaare Rasmussen (on Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:31:59AM +0100):
Haven´t anobody tried to set up Linux as a Firewall / Router in a Windows environment?
i am running it for about 2 years now perfectly. firewall and isdn router doing NAT with ipchains. i wouldn't use suse firewall but ipchains directly. suse firewall can only do so much, the full power of ipchains can only be used directly. martin
The problem as described in my mail here, is that the clients on the LAN cannot see the servers in the DMZ as part of the Windows network (in Windows Explorer e.g.).
the problem here is probably the forwarding of them nasty damn stupid windoze broadcasts. set up a WINS server using samba on the linux router and you're set... martin
Do I have to drop Linux and set up another router?
nonononono. freebsd would do though :) martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo madduck@!#:1:s@\@@@.net -- "in contrast to the what-you-see-is-what-you-get philosophy, unix is the you-asked-for-it,-you-got-it operating system." --scott lee
It is not 100% clear to me how your network is set up but it does seem to me that you have something like this: Firewall Router Internet -------- DMZ ------- Windows nw ----------| |----+-----| |-------+---------- -------- | ------- | | | ----- ------ | | | | ----- ------ Server Client If this is your setup then the problem is Microsoft, as usual! Clients and servers find each other by making broadcasts but broadcasts must not be forwarded by routers, and hence the client and server do not manage to find each other. The solution to the problem is to have a primary windows server in either the DMZ or the windows nw and a secondary windows server in the other. The client then makes a broadcast, finds one of the servers, the server talks to the other server and tells the client about it after which the client and the server in the DMZ will happily communicate. Its all part of the Microshaft policy - You get to pay for two servers instead of one and use lots of extra bandwidth. Hope this helps! Happy hacking, \Gandalf Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
Haven´t anobody tried to set up Linux as a Firewall / Router in a Windows environment?
The problem as described in my mail here, is that the clients on the LAN cannot see the servers in the DMZ as part of the Windows network (in Windows Explorer e.g.).
Do I have to drop Linux and set up another router?
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: SuSE as firewall/router for Windows Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:57:02 +0100 From: Kaare Rasmussen <kar@webline.dk> To: suse-linux-e@suse.com
I need to set up a SuSE Linux 7.0 as a firewall / router in a Windows environment.
I have configured /etc/rc.config.d/firewall.rc.config very standard, I think where I have the clients on the local side as 192.168.1.x. In the DMZ I have some servers (with public IP adresses) that I need to see as a Windows client. What do I do to make network browsing and the like work?
I thought that if I pointed to the external WINS server, it would work, but apparantly I need something else.
Can anyone tell me what that is?
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One word: Samba On Friday 19 January 2001 02:31, Kaare Rasmussen wrote:
Haven´t anobody tried to set up Linux as a Firewall / Router in a Windows environment?
The problem as described in my mail here, is that the clients on the LAN cannot see the servers in the DMZ as part of the Windows network (in Windows Explorer e.g.).
Do I have to drop Linux and set up another router?
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: SuSE as firewall/router for Windows Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:57:02 +0100 From: Kaare Rasmussen <kar@webline.dk> To: suse-linux-e@suse.com
I need to set up a SuSE Linux 7.0 as a firewall / router in a Windows environment.
I have configured /etc/rc.config.d/firewall.rc.config very standard, I think where I have the clients on the local side as 192.168.1.x. In the DMZ I have some servers (with public IP adresses) that I need to see as a Windows client. What do I do to make network browsing and the like work?
I thought that if I pointed to the external WINS server, it would work, but apparantly I need something else.
Can anyone tell me what that is?
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