[opensuse] Re: Partitioning problem in installing oS v11.1
Stan Goodman a écrit :
I have now wiped the entire disk.
Toward the end of the wipe, when DFSee said the ETA was 6 seconds and
this is BAD and thrilling. partitionning should *not* erase the drive (mostly)
Restarting withe the DFSee disk, I made a new MBR and made partitions. The Boot Manager is now NOT in the MBR. It is marked ACTIVE.
this don't mean anything. The boot anager have nothing to do with partitions. the boot manager is a program (lilo, grub, similar for win). What you may have is one small partition for /boot (optional nowadays) I made three
logical partitions, including a Swap (sda5), and two for / (sda6) and /home (sda7). There is nothing more on the disk, unless it is in the unwiped 31.5 at the end of the disk. There couldn't be anything else.
of course it can be. Most data are probably still on the disk (depend of what your programm call "wiped")
I then inserted the oS installation disk and booted from it. When it got to the s stage of suggesting partitions, it offered to put / on sda3 (20GB) and /home on sda4 (140.7GB); I did not make these, and I do not recognize the size numbers.
this is the openSUSE default for free disk (sensible)
It did put Swap on sda5, with the size I had made, and then listed sda6 and sda7 with the sizes I had made., without specifying mounting points.
Summarizing, it inserted 160GB into the partition array on its own initiative.
I think I have presented all the details that I have observed. If I have omitted something, please don't hesitate to ask.
you didn't give nearly any usefull data, sorry. what is the full size of your drive? you have to write down the starting/ending sector of each partition. it's not possible to install wibdows on a logical partition, only on primary one. Linux don't care, however it's better to have the boot partition (or root if only one) on a primary, easier to recover in case of disaster run the openSUSE dvd, rescue system and type fdisk -l copy the result here jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://news.opensuse.org/2009/04/13/people-of-opensuse-jean-daniel-dodin/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
At 15:21:08 on Friday Friday 02 October 2009, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
Stan Goodman a écrit :
I have now wiped the entire disk.
Toward the end of the wipe, when DFSee said the ETA was 6 seconds and
this is BAD and thrilling.
It was gripping at the beginning, but it got old quickly.
partitionning should *not* erase the drive (mostly)
Restarting withe the DFSee disk, I made a new MBR and made partitions. The Boot Manager is now NOT in the MBR. It is marked ACTIVE.
this don't mean anything. The boot anager have nothing to do with
I wrote that only because in the previous iteration the Boot Manager did somehow get into the MBR; I don't know how, no doubt I zigged when I should have zagged.
partitions. the boot manager is a program (lilo, grub, similar for
That must be a typo; the boot manager is not the boot loader.
win). What you may have is one small partition for /boot (optional nowadays)
No. I did not make a boot partition, and the installer hasn't suggested one.
I made three logical partitions, including a Swap (sda5), and two for / (sda6) and /home (sda7). There is nothing more on the disk, unless it is in the unwiped 31.5 at the end of the disk. There couldn't be anything else.
of course it can be. Most data are probably still on the disk (depend of what your programm call "wiped")
"Wiped" means to write all the bytes as 00. I don't think it can be.
I then inserted the oS installation disk and booted from it. When it got to the s stage of suggesting partitions, it offered to put / on sda3 (20GB) and /home on sda4 (140.7GB); I did not make these, and I do not recognize the size numbers.
this is the openSUSE default for free disk (sensible)
It did put Swap on sda5, with the size I had made, and then listed sda6 and sda7 with the sizes I had made., without specifying mounting points.
Summarizing, it inserted 160GB into the partition array on its own initiative.
I think I have presented all the details that I have observed. If I have omitted something, please don't hesitate to ask.
you didn't give nearly any usefull data, sorry.
I'm sorry too. What else would you like to see?
what is the full size of your drive? you have to write down the starting/ending sector of each partition.
it's not possible to install wibdows on a logical partition, only on primary one. Linux don't care, however it's better to have the boot partition (or root if only one) on a primary, easier to recover in case of disaster
I have been using openSuSE for two years, on this desktop machine and its predecessor, with v10.0, v10.3, and now v11.1. This is the partitioning arrangement I have used in each case, without difficulty. For disasters, I rely on having a second copy of Linux on a second physical drive (using the previous release), so there is always a maintenance system. If that isn't adequate for recovery, nothing else would have helped either.
run the openSUSE dvd, rescue system and type fdisk -l
copy the result here
jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://news.opensuse.org/2009/04/13/people-of-opensuse-jean-daniel-dodi n/
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2009-10-02 at 15:42 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
I think I have presented all the details that I have observed. If I have omitted something, please don't hesitate to ask.
you didn't give nearly any usefull data, sorry.
I'm sorry too. What else would you like to see?
The output of "fdisk -l". Just that. Use a live system con CD if your system is not bootable. NOT what dfsee says. We want what fdisk says, copied here letter by letter. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkrHKh4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WRjACfYIjBo3ISRbesKOELve3cilll 3jsAnRg37OfN1IwkZtmWCys9h9LMTG3m =DUKG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
At 12:40:28 on Saturday Saturday 03 October 2009, "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On Friday, 2009-10-02 at 15:42 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
I think I have presented all the details that I have observed. If I have omitted something, please don't hesitate to ask.
you didn't give nearly any usefull data, sorry.
I'm sorry too. What else would you like to see?
The output of "fdisk -l". Just that. Use a live system con CD if your system is not bootable.
NOT what dfsee says. We want what fdisk says, copied here letter by letter.
And I have done that twice. And I see the important difference. Thanks. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2009/10/02 15:21 (GMT+0200) jdd composed:
it's not possible to install wibdows on a logical partition, only on primary one.
I thought you were smarter than that. Just like I usually install Linux to a logical (IOW rarely to a primary) I never "install" Windows to a primary. http://fm.no-ip.com/install-doz-after.html shows a small disk partitioned with both Windows and Linux booting from primaries but "installed" to logicals. Windows is little different from Linux in that its boot files can live on a partition separate from OS files. A (small) C: primary to Windows directly corresponds to a (small) /boot on a primary in Linux. Someday just for kicks if nothing else, boot a W2K or WinXP installation CD with a HD that has several empty and non-empty partitions on it of both native and non-native partition types and watch it ask you to select a partition to install to. If "C:" is too small it won't even allow you to select it. -- " A patriot without religion . . . is as great a paradox, as an honest man without the fear of God. . . . 2nd U.S. President, John Adams Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
Windows is little different from Linux in that its boot files can live on a partition separate from OS files.
Linux works perefectly well with that too. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.9°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday October 2 2009 10:36:51 am Per Jessen wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
Windows is little different from Linux in that its boot files can live on a partition separate from OS files.
Linux works perefectly well with that too.
I might be wrong, but I think he was saying that Linux can do it and Windows can't. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2009/10/02 10:46 (GMT-0500) Constantinos Galilei composed:
On Friday October 2 2009 10:36:51 am Per Jessen wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
Windows is little different from Linux in that its boot files can live on a partition separate from OS files.
Linux works perefectly well with that too.
I might be wrong, but I think he was saying that Linux can do it and Windows can't.
Of course. In the post replied to was an URL that included partitioning detail of a multiboot system that does do exactly that. -- " A patriot without religion . . . is as great a paradox, as an honest man without the fear of God. . . . 2nd U.S. President, John Adams Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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