Hello Look and Feel guru's out there. When you install SUSE, do you go off and change the Look and Feel to match your own preference? Do people look at your resulting desktop and say: WOW, that looks cool. If so, let me know, since we would like to ship several alternative "Look and Feel" options in SLICK. They can be very experimental or just little tweaks to make fonts look different or have a different colour scheme/background. Let me know and please send me screenshots of your resulting Desktop. Andreas Andreas openSUSE is SUPER: To help in the SUSE Performance Enhanced Release project visit http://www.opensuse.org/SUPER
I'm definately a "Look and Feel" kind of person, I love changing layouts and window themes. Please include as many as possible!! Andreas Girardet wrote:
Hello Look and Feel guru's out there.
When you install SUSE, do you go off and change the Look and Feel to match your own preference? Do people look at your resulting desktop and say: WOW, that looks cool. If so, let me know, since we would like to ship several alternative "Look and Feel" options in SLICK. They can be very experimental or just little tweaks to make fonts look different or have a different colour scheme/background.
Let me know and please send me screenshots of your resulting Desktop.
Andreas
Andreas
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On Wednesday 28 September 2005 02:15, Andreas Girardet wrote:
Hello Look and Feel guru's out there.
When you install SUSE, do you go off and change the Look and Feel to match your own preference? Do people look at your resulting desktop and say: WOW, that looks cool. If so, let me know, since we would like to ship several alternative "Look and Feel" options in SLICK. They can be very experimental or just little tweaks to make fonts look different or have a different colour scheme/background.
Let me know and please send me screenshots of your resulting Desktop.
Andreas
I like working with 4 desktops and each desktop has its own background. Typically, people (self included) are impressed with the background images featuring animals and nature scenes such as waterfalls, parks etc. As an experiment, I just called my colleague's attention to my computer and his immediate reaction was "Umm, that's nice. Why did you get that from?" What he saw was a picture of the tortoise which comes with opensuse. I normally have my backgrounds set to rotate images. However, one of my desktops just has a plain background, which is were I work when I want to be fully focused on my task. Eddie
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Hello Look and Feel guru's out there. Hallo Andreas (I *had* to answer a mail with that Subject ;P)
When you install SUSE, do you go off and change the Look and Feel to match your own preference? Do people look at your resulting desktop and Yep
say: WOW, that looks cool. If so, let me know, since we would like to Yep
ship several alternative "Look and Feel" options in SLICK. They can be very experimental or just little tweaks to make fonts look different or have a different colour scheme/background.
+ kde window decorations + kde styles + gtk2 styles The SUSE windec as used by default is quite ugly, but that's IMVHO. "les goûts et les couleurs..." (french, means: it's a matter of everyone's personal taste) ;) baghira, plastik, mkultra are my personal favourite window decorations on KDE: - - http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-navigation.php?cat=Themes-KDE3/mkultra/ - - http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-navigation.php?cat=Themes-KDE3/baghira/ As for KDE styles, plastik is consistent, compact, nice on the eyes. But baghira's brushed metal is for that extra macosx-ish look&feel. (and the whole (thin)keramik stuff is bloated and takes too much space for decorations) For GNOME/GTK2, clearlooks is the clear winner. Awesome. I'd use it for KDE if there was a port. - - http://clearlooks.sourceforge.net/ - - http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-navigation.php?cat=Themes-GTK2/gtk2-clea... - - part of the Clearlooks variants are already included in 10.0 I prefer this variant, clearlooks-cleaneyes: http://gnomelook.org/content/show.php?content=23679 (Note: I think clearlooks is the default theme for GNOME 2.12)
Let me know and please send me screenshots of your resulting Desktop. http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/athena-mkultra.jpg http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/athena-white-1.jpg http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/athena-2.jpg http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/venus-doudou-1.jpg http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/venus-metal-amarok.jpg http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/venus-metal-mtaskbar.jpg
On the last screenshot: that nifty transparent taskbar is "mtaskbar": http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-navigation.php?cat=Utilities/mtaskbar Most backgrounds are from deviantart.com's minimalistic wallpaper section: http://browse.deviantart.com/wallpaper/minimalistic/ (a lot of crap, but also some excellent wallpapers here and then) or from Mandolux: http://www.mandolux.com/ or from kde-look.org (seldom): http://kde-look.org or from gnome-look.org (rare, a lot of ubuntu/debian/gnome wallpapers there): http://gnome-look.org or from Spymac, where the wallpaper gallery is unfortunately down since a few months. cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <pascal.bleser@skynet.be> <guru@unixtech.be> _\_v ===> FOSDEM 2006 -- February 2006 in Brussels <=== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDOmokr3NMWliFcXcRAtV1AKCstFp3o/7IYjkOIDlzb33vSxDY5QCgvcmZ 86WCXKHtQ6K55twjXXTjGkU= =TUDD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 06:02, Pascal Bleser wrote:
Andreas Girardet wrote:
Hello Look and Feel guru's out there.
Hallo Andreas (I *had* to answer a mail with that Subject ;P)
I, too, am compelled to respond to this topic. Every time someone sees my desktop, the initial reaction is "Wow!" And then, after a couple of minutes spent closely examining the screen... "What *is* that?!". Then comes "Can you put that on my system?" :-) Gotta love it! Back later ... the ISP is unplugging for a few hours to upgrade. - Carl
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 07:13:15AM -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:
I, too, am compelled to respond to this topic. Every time someone sees my desktop, the initial reaction is "Wow!" And then, after a couple of minutes spent closely examining the screen... "What *is* that?!". Then comes "Can you put that on my system?" :-) Gotta love it!
The actual reason I wanted to run Linux was that I saw somebody at work using Enlightenment! and it had a transparent terminal window. I wanted to have that. And some years later, here I am. :-) What I personally like to use to show off are windowing themes that are not just different colours. I user E! to show off here a picture (Normally there is a different background, but this is for clearaty) http://houghi.org/shots/enlightenment-001.jpg Especially for those who think that Linux is still text based. Now I also give them the following links to show how textbase Linux is: http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17_movie-00.avi http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17_movie-01.avi http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17_movie-02.avi http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17_movie-03.avi I do not use E! myself, I use WindowMaker with almost boring colors. When I am working on XP, the first thing I do is turn to the old sceme, but I do understand that pretty colours are important. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 20:58:01 +0800, houghi <houghi@houghi.org> wrote:
Now I also give them the following links to show how textbase Linux is: http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17_movie-00.avi http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17_movie-01.avi http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17_movie-02.avi http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17_movie-03.avi
I do not use E! myself, I use WindowMaker with almost boring colors. When I am working on XP, the first thing I do is turn to the old sceme, but I do understand that pretty colours are important.
houghi
How cool the video is! please please post some more SuSE desktop usage videos if there are. Once heared there's a video presentation of the SuSE 3D Desktop, wonder where can I download it. -- Cheers
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 11:53:16PM +0800, susing wrote:
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 20:58:01 +0800, houghi <houghi@houghi.org> wrote:
Now I also give them the following links to show how textbase Linux is: http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17_movie-00.avi http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17_movie-01.avi http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17_movie-02.avi http://www.rasterman.com/files/e17_movie-03.avi
I do not use E! myself, I use WindowMaker with almost boring colors. When I am working on XP, the first thing I do is turn to the old sceme, but I do understand that pretty colours are important.
houghi
How cool the video is! please please post some more SuSE desktop usage videos if there are.
Just look in the directory http://www.rasterman.com/files/ for pics and movies for E!. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
houghi wrote:
Just look in the directory http://www.rasterman.com/files/ for pics and movies for E!.
don't you think this is a waste of time? some works on SUPER for clipping some seconds and this is for displaying gadgets? I use to like to have my power for real use :-( but, eventually, for a demo mode... jdd -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.net http://arvamip.free.fr
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 06:52:55PM +0200, jdd wrote:
houghi wrote:
Just look in the directory http://www.rasterman.com/files/ for pics and movies for E!.
don't you think this is a waste of time? some works on SUPER for clipping some seconds and this is for displaying gadgets?
Sorry for the confusion. I was just comenting on how importand look and feel was and that it brought me to Linux. It was not my intention to bring E! to SUPER. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
houghi wrote:
Sorry for the confusion.
don't. I know first impression is often important, but when I tryed Enli(too long too write), it was a real burden for the PC of that time. It was not my intention to bring
E! to SUPER.
I see E! like a game. I was pleased to scan the menus but never used it :-) in fact I'm really impressed by some tools like icewm that can achieve lightness and pretty shape It's often possible to have the butter and the butter box, new SUSE aspect is already very impressive. make a true artist team look at the interface could be a good thing (I often found themes quite sad), but still keeping in mind speed :-) jdd -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.net http://arvamip.free.fr
On Thursday 29 September 2005 19:32, jdd wrote:
houghi wrote:
Sorry for the confusion.
don't. I know first impression is often important, but when I tryed Enli(too long too write), it was a real burden for the PC of that time.
It was not my intention to bring
E! to SUPER.
I see E! like a game. I was pleased to scan the menus but never used it :-)
in fact I'm really impressed by some tools like icewm that can achieve lightness and pretty shape
It's often possible to have the butter and the butter box, new SUSE aspect is already very impressive. make a true artist team look at the interface could be a good thing (I often found themes quite sad), but still keeping in mind speed :-)
jdd
This Theme with the animated background: is it possible to use that as a daylight accurate background? eg. at noon it's bright sunny, and when it rains, it does too... I mean like connected to some forecast like the firefox-plugin, can tell me the weather at my very location, even snow and that kind of stuff... would be cool to have like a window to the outside on the screen :) best regards patrick
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 08:37:02PM +0200, Patrick Fehr wrote:
This Theme with the animated background: is it possible to use that as a daylight accurate background? eg. at noon it's bright sunny, and when it rains, it does too... I mean like connected to some forecast like the firefox-plugin, can tell me the weather at my very location, even snow and that kind of stuff... would be cool to have like a window to the outside on the screen :)
Uhm. This is defenitly not SUPER anymore. I am sure you could change your background to whatever you want. Connect the data from any wether program (I use wmweather) and have it manipulate your background with gimp. You take a background and with gimp in a script, you first do a layer of time of day. Next with a layer you do the weathertype and so on. Then you set that as a background. Interesting concept and a lot of fun (and very intensive). With the differnt parameters, you could even create a mandlebrod immage. An other way would be just to connect a webcam. Ain't it crazy that just looking outside is not really an option for the true nerd? houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
On Thursday 29 September 2005 20:59, houghi wrote:
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 08:37:02PM +0200, Patrick Fehr wrote:
This Theme with the animated background: is it possible to use that as a daylight accurate background? eg. at noon it's bright sunny, and when it rains, it does too... I mean like connected to some forecast like the firefox-plugin, can tell me the weather at my very location, even snow and that kind of stuff... would be cool to have like a window to the outside on the screen :)
Uhm. This is defenitly not SUPER anymore. I am sure you could change your background to whatever you want. Connect the data from any wether program (I use wmweather) and have it manipulate your background with gimp.
You take a background and with gimp in a script, you first do a layer of time of day. Next with a layer you do the weathertype and so on. Then you set that as a background.
Interesting concept and a lot of fun (and very intensive). With the differnt parameters, you could even create a mandlebrod immage.
Indeed, your idea is nice, but that's definitely too much work for me at the moment. But just out of curiosity: How could you do the "almost realtime" animation? eg. updated all 2 seconds but in the meantime fading from one picture to another, so you don't have to heat your cpu up to death. And how would you realise that in gimp? Can't really imagine, how you make the connection between gimp-pictures and the animated daylight accurate background.
An other way would be just to connect a webcam. Ain't it crazy that just looking outside is not really an option for the true nerd?
Well I thought about that too, but that would involve eye- or even head-movement, and I don't want to exhaust my body :) And it doesn't have to be the outside of my window, rather like some nice mountains and wide fields instead of grey city around, just the same weather as I have here. Thanks for your reply! best regards patrick
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 09:33:01PM +0200, Patrick Fehr wrote:
Indeed, your idea is nice, but that's definitely too much work for me at the moment. But just out of curiosity: How could you do the "almost realtime" animation? eg. updated all 2 seconds but in the meantime fading from one picture to another, so you don't have to heat your cpu up to death. And how would you realise that in gimp? Can't really imagine, how you make the connection between gimp-pictures and the animated daylight accurate background.
If you look closely at the animations, you see it is build up of several layers that move at different speeds. Also weather changes often, but not really every 2 seconds. a 30 minute or even 1 hour time in between should be enough. You could also build a database of different pictures and work from that, wich will be less CPU intensive and also less correct. So what you do is have a mountain sight, a hill sight and a tree sight going round and round in different speeds and you have movement. Classic animation trick they use in cartoons.
An other way would be just to connect a webcam. Ain't it crazy that just looking outside is not really an option for the true nerd?
Well I thought about that too, but that would involve eye- or even head-movement, and I don't want to exhaust my body :)
Also you do not want that big yellow thing that is named after a software company shining in your screens. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
Houghi which tool did you used for capturing desktop? Pavel
On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 04:08:39PM +0200, Pavel Nemec wrote:
Houghi which tool did you used for capturing desktop?
Hold it. I just posted a link. I would not dare to compare myself to the maker of Enlightenment. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
Houghi, On Friday 30 September 2005 04:50, houghi wrote:
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Also you do not want that big yellow thing that is named after a software company shining in your screens.
If the object in question is the sun, then: a) The sun pre-dates the Sun Microsystems by several billion years, hence the astrophysical object really cannot be said to have been named after a twenty-something computer company. b) Sun Microsystems was named after an early Unix networking project at Stanford and is widely thought to stand for "Stanford University Network." It was not named after the ambiguous life-giver that some call Sol.
houghi
Randall Schulz
Randall R Schulz wrote:
b) Sun Microsystems was named after an early Unix networking project at Stanford and is widely thought to stand for "Stanford University Network." It was not named after the ambiguous life-giver that some call Sol.
"Sol": which, in Portuguese (maybe in Spanish too.?), means "Sun". The concept of the stellar object was firm, i guess..
Randall R Schulz wrote:
b) Sun Microsystems was named after an early Unix networking project at Stanford and is widely thought to stand for "Stanford University Network." It was not named after the ambiguous life-giver that some call Sol.
"Sol": which, in Portuguese (maybe in Spanish too.?), means "Sun". The concept of the stellar object was firm, i guess...
Hello team I have been on a course this week and am now finally getting a chance to look into the mailing list and will probably spend most of today in looking at this thread. WOW ... thanks ofr all the replies. Is anyone out of the group that replied interested to be the "Look and Feel" Project manager for SUPER? Collating the info on a wiki page and possibly also creating an rpm with all the Look and feels? Andreas openSUSE is SUPER: To help in the SUSE Performance Enhanced Release project visit http://www.opensuse.org/SUPER
Hi team This is what I got out from the posts: http://www.opensuse.org/SUPER_lookandfeel I would love to have more info. Anyone on here that has experience with creating Icons? Andreas
On Sunday 02 October 2005 21:44, Andreas Girardet wrote:
Anyone on here that has experience with creating Icons?
Andreas
Hi Andreas, I probably don't have as much experience as the established artists you're accustomed to working with, but there's no better way to get a skill polished up than to take up real-life opportunities... what are you looking for? - Carl
On Mon, Oct 3, 2005 at 3:35 pm, in message <200510022235.35356.suselinux@cehartung.com>, suselinux@cehartung.com wrote: On Sunday 02 October 2005 21:44, Andreas Girardet wrote: Anyone on here that has experience with creating Icons?
Andreas
Hi Andreas,
I probably don't have as much experience as the established artists you're accustomed to working with, but there's no better way to get a skill
polished up than to take up real- life opportunities... what are you looking for?
Well ... I am accustomed to my own self, who honestly sucks at graphics as I am nearly blind (-12 shortsighted + heavy astigmasism) ;) .... I am sure you will be fine. What I need is someone who can Project Manage this part of SUPER. It is all in all getting to much for me alone. I just don't want this to be a one man project ..... Andreas
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 04:15, Andreas Girardet wrote:
ship several alternative "Look and Feel" options in SLICK. They can be very experimental or just little tweaks to make fonts look different or have a different colour scheme/background.
Plastik all the way, Nuvola icons, Nature related relaxing background and matching colors. Nice 'n' easy. -- // Janne
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