Hi, Has anybody managed to convince their zip drive to use the first primary partition under 8.1 ? And if so how ? I have tried everything I could find and it still stubbornly refuses to use anything but the fourth partition . Any help would be appreciated . Mike Ayers
twopinkblobs@t-online.de (Michael Ayers) writes:
Has anybody managed to convince their zip drive to use the first primary partition under 8.1 ? And if so how ?
I haven't tried it so I ask: What fails in the following? # mkdir /media/zip1 # mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /media/zip1 # replace hdb with your device # umount /media/zip1
I have tried everything I could find and it still stubbornly refuses to use anything but the fourth partition.
I'm sorry but I read it: I know there are many documents about this topic but I haven't tried anything yet. -- Alexandr.Malusek@imv.liu.se
On Tuesday 31 December 2002 13:46, Alexandr Malusek wrote:
twopinkblobs@t-online.de (Michael Ayers) writes:
Has anybody managed to convince their zip drive to use the first primary partition under 8.1 ? And if so how ?
I haven't tried it so I ask: What fails in the following?
# mkdir /media/zip1 # mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /media/zip1 # replace hdb with your device # umount /media/zip1
I have tried everything I could find and it still stubbornly refuses to use anything but the fourth partition.
I'm sorry but I read it: I know there are many documents about this topic but I haven't tried anything yet.
Tried that and this was the error: linux:/home/micaye # mount -t vfat /dev/hdd1 /media/zip1 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd1, or too many mounted file systems (could this be the IDE device where you in fact use ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?) Tried it with ext2 same error and with auto the error message is:- linux:/home/micaye # mount -t auto /dev/hdd1 /media/zip1 /dev/hdd1: No such file or directory mount: you must specify the filesystem type I had this running under 7.3 but then it wouldn't read partition 4 . Tried reading the thing from the rescue system with the same problems. I have been working at this on and off for the last few weeks. Mike Ayers
Hi, There is a mini howto ( /usr/share/doc/howto/en/mini ) with the name "ZIP-Drive.gz". It has all the details on how to setup your zip drive. Hope that it help you. On Tuesday 31 December 2002 15:11, Michael Ayers wrote:
On Tuesday 31 December 2002 13:46, Alexandr Malusek wrote:
twopinkblobs@t-online.de (Michael Ayers) writes:
Has anybody managed to convince their zip drive to use the first primary partition under 8.1 ? And if so how ?
I haven't tried it so I ask: What fails in the following?
# mkdir /media/zip1 # mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /media/zip1 # replace hdb with your device # umount /media/zip1
I have tried everything I could find and it still stubbornly refuses to use anything but the fourth partition.
I'm sorry but I read it: I know there are many documents about this topic but I haven't tried anything yet.
Tried that and this was the error: linux:/home/micaye # mount -t vfat /dev/hdd1 /media/zip1 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd1, or too many mounted file systems (could this be the IDE device where you in fact use ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?)
Tried it with ext2 same error and with auto the error message is:- linux:/home/micaye # mount -t auto /dev/hdd1 /media/zip1 /dev/hdd1: No such file or directory mount: you must specify the filesystem type
I had this running under 7.3 but then it wouldn't read partition 4 . Tried reading the thing from the rescue system with the same problems. I have been working at this on and off for the last few weeks.
Mike Ayers
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twopinkblobs@t-online.de (Michael Ayers) writes:
Tried that and this was the error: linux:/home/micaye # mount -t vfat /dev/hdd1 /media/zip1 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd1, or too many mounted file systems (could this be the IDE device where you in fact use ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?)
What does "fdisk -l /dev/hdd" report? The following is from my system (7.3): # fdisk -l /dev/hdd Disk /dev/hdd: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 239 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdd4 * 1 239 244720 6 FAT16 /var/log/boot.msg: <4>hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 250 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive I have a system with a ZIP drive and 8.1 too but it's 20 minutes of walk away. -- Alexandr.Malusek@imv.liu.se
On Tuesday 31 December 2002 14:33, Alexandr Malusek wrote:
What does "fdisk -l /dev/hdd" report? The following is from my system (7.3):
# fdisk -l /dev/hdd
Disk /dev/hdd: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 239 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdd4 * 1 239 244720 6 FAT16
/var/log/boot.msg: <4>hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 250 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive
linux:/home/micaye # fdisk -l /dev/hdd Disk /dev/hdd: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 96 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdd4 * 1 96 98288 6 FAT16 /var/log/boot.msg <4>hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive This is with a disk formatted for ext2 and partition 1.
I have a system with a ZIP drive and 8.1 too but it's 20 minutes of walk away. If it is as cold there as it is here there is no way you should go anywhere !
Mike Ayers
twopinkblobs@t-online.de (Michael Ayers) writes:
linux:/home/micaye # fdisk -l /dev/hdd
Disk /dev/hdd: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 96 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdd4 * 1 96 98288 6 FAT16
/var/log/boot.msg <4>hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive
This is with a disk formatted for ext2 and partition 1.
I'm surprised it works in 7.3 because the partition table says that only the partition 4 is on the Zip. IMHO the Zip can be partitioned as an ordinary HD. Use "fdisk" to delete the partition 4 and create a new primary partition 1. Then use "mke2fs /dev/hdd1" to create the ext2 file system there. -- Alexandr.Malusek@imv.liu.se
On Tuesday 31 December 2002 15:24, Alexandr Malusek wrote:
IMHO the Zip can be partitioned as an ordinary HD. Use "fdisk" to delete the partition 4 and create a new primary partition 1. Then use "mke2fs /dev/hdd1" to create the ext2 file system there.
This worked perfectly thankyou, but I still can't read my old disks so I guess I will have to rebuild the computer that I had 7.3 installed on and try to move the data the hard way ! It looks as if somebody changed something between 7.3 and 8.1 . Thanks again for your time and effort Mike Ayers
twopinkblobs@t-online.de (Michael Ayers) writes:
On Tuesday 31 December 2002 15:24, Alexandr Malusek wrote:
IMHO the Zip can be partitioned as an ordinary HD. Use "fdisk" to delete the partition 4 and create a new primary partition 1. Then use "mke2fs /dev/hdd1" to create the ext2 file system there.
This worked perfectly thankyou, but I still can't read my old disks so I guess I will have to rebuild the computer that I had 7.3 installed on and try to move the data the hard way !
How did you create the ext2 file system there? I can't create ext2 on /dev/hdd1 if only the partition 4 is in the Zip's partition table: # fdisk -l /dev/hdd Disk /dev/hdd: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 239 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdd4 1 239 244720 6 FAT16 # mke2fs /dev/hdd1 mke2fs 1.24a (02-Sep-2001) mke2fs: Device size reported to be zero. Invalid partition specified, or partition table wasn't reread after running fdisk, due to a modified partition being busy and in use. You may need to reboot to re-read your partition table. Are you sure the ext2 isn't on hdd4? -- Alexandr.Malusek@imv.liu.se
On Tuesday 31 December 2002 16:52, Alexandr Malusek wrote:
How did you create the ext2 file system there? I can't create ext2 on /dev/hdd1 if only the partition 4 is in the Zip's partition table:
# fdisk -l /dev/hdd
Disk /dev/hdd: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 239 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdd4 1 239 244720 6 FAT16
# mke2fs /dev/hdd1 mke2fs 1.24a (02-Sep-2001) mke2fs: Device size reported to be zero. Invalid partition specified, or partition table wasn't reread after running fdisk, due to a modified partition being busy and in use. You may need to reboot to re-read your partition table.
Are you sure the ext2 isn't on hdd4?
linux:/home/micaye # fdisk -l /dev/hdd Disk /dev/hdd: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 96 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdd1 1 96 98288 83 Linux I deleted partition 4 and added a new partition 1 and then did mke2fs /dev/hdd1 and it worked . Mike Ayers
twopinkblobs@t-online.de (Michael Ayers) writes:
linux:/home/micaye # fdisk -l /dev/hdd
Disk /dev/hdd: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 96 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdd1 1 96 98288 83 Linux
I deleted partition 4 and added a new partition 1 and then did mke2fs /dev/hdd1 and it worked .
Let me repeat it: The old Zip disks were partitioned and the ext2 file system was created there according to the recipe above on 7.3, but they cannot be mounted on 8.1 via # mount -t ext2 /dev/hdd1 /media/zip1 It's strange. What is the output of "e2fsck -fn /dev/hdd1" for these disks? -- Alexandr.Malusek@imv.liu.se
On Tuesday 31 December 2002 18:01, Alexandr Malusek wrote:
The old Zip disks were partitioned and the ext2 file system was created there according to the recipe above on 7.3, but they cannot be mounted on 8.1 via
# mount -t ext2 /dev/hdd1 /media/zip1
It's strange. What is the output of "e2fsck -fn /dev/hdd1" for these disks?
linux:/home/micaye # e2fsck -fn /dev/hdd1 e2fsck 1.28 (31-Aug-2002) e2fsck: Invalid argument while trying to open /dev/hdd1 The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck -b 8193 <device> Yes this disk was created under 7.3 and no it will not mount under 8.1 . Mike Ayers
twopinkblobs@t-online.de (Michael Ayers) writes:
On Tuesday 31 December 2002 18:01, Alexandr Malusek wrote:
The old Zip disks were partitioned and the ext2 file system was created there according to the recipe above on 7.3, but they cannot be mounted on 8.1 via
# mount -t ext2 /dev/hdd1 /media/zip1
It's strange. What is the output of "e2fsck -fn /dev/hdd1" for these disks?
linux:/home/micaye # e2fsck -fn /dev/hdd1 e2fsck 1.28 (31-Aug-2002) e2fsck: Invalid argument while trying to open /dev/hdd1
The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
Yes this disk was created under 7.3 and no it will not mount under 8.1 .
It looks like a compatibility problem with ext2 FS. (In other words it's not related to the Zip drive). Note there is a similar report on this list: : From: "Jason Jonas - Sapien" <jejonas@sapienconsulting.com> : Subject: [SLE] Redhat to Suse and ext2 FS : To: <suse-linux-e@suse.com> : Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 16:53:45 -0600 : : I've been building a new suse 8.1 pro box to replace an old redhat : box. Everything is working on the new box - mail, apache... - but I : tried moving an 80GB Maxtor IDE drive over and was not able to mount : the system. The device is recognized. The FS type is ext2, but when I : tried mounting as ext2 I received a 'bad fstype' message. I have SCSI : drives that take care of the important stuff and this IDE drive is : used for long-term, online data storage. : : Does anyone know why taking an ext2 drive from redhat to suse would : fail? Thanks. : : Jason I'll test if ext3 created on 7.3 on a Zip (or floppy) can be read on 8.1 tomorrow. -- Alexandr.Malusek@imv.liu.se
Michael Ayers wrote:
On Tuesday 31 December 2002 15:24, Alexandr Malusek wrote:
IMHO the Zip can be partitioned as an ordinary HD. Use "fdisk" to delete the partition 4 and create a new primary partition 1. Then use "mke2fs /dev/hdd1" to create the ext2 file system there.
This worked perfectly thankyou, but I still can't read my old disks so I guess I will have to rebuild the computer that I had 7.3 installed on and try to move the data the hard way ! It looks as if somebody changed something between 7.3 and 8.1 .
Thanks again for your time and effort
Mike Ayers
I can mount zip disks as either /dev/hdd1 or /dev/hdd4. For original not newly formated (hdd4) I have a line in /etc/fstab which looks like: /dev/hdd4 /media/zip auto noauto,user 0 0 I also have a line for disks formatted to use hdd1: /dev/hdd1 /media/ZIP auto noauto,user 0 0 You may just lack a mount point and line entry in fstab Terry -- SuSE Linux 7.3 (i386) 2.4.16-4GB Tue Dec 31 10:35:00 CST 2002 10:35am up 4 days, 18:50, 1 user, load average: 0.24, 0.28, 0.16
The 02.12.31 at 16:02, Michael Ayers wrote:
This worked perfectly thankyou, but I still can't read my old disks so I guess I will have to rebuild the computer that I had 7.3 installed on and try to move the data the hard way ! It looks as if somebody changed something between 7.3 and 8.1 .
Nope. I just read my zip disk created with suse 7.3 in suse 8.1 with no problem at all. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Wednesday 01 January 2003 03:25, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The 02.12.31 at 16:02, Michael Ayers wrote:
This worked perfectly thankyou, but I still can't read my old disks so I guess I will have to rebuild the computer that I had 7.3 installed on and try to move the data the hard way ! It looks as if somebody changed something between 7.3 and 8.1 .
Nope. I just read my zip disk created with suse 7.3 in suse 8.1 with no problem at all.
It looks as if their is a fault on the disks I made with 7.3 as none of them were readable under 8.1 . I have reformatted some of them under 8.1 and they are now o.k. I am about to rebuild the 7.3 system so we will see. Mike Ayers
On Wednesday 01 January 2003 08:16, Michael Ayers wrote:
This worked perfectly thankyou, but I still can't read my old disks so I guess I will have to rebuild the computer that I had 7.3 installed on and try to move the data the hard way ! It looks as if somebody changed something between 7.3 and 8.1 .
Nope. I just read my zip disk created with suse 7.3 in suse 8.1 with no problem at all.
It looks as if their is a fault on the disks I made with 7.3 as none of them were readable under 8.1 . I have reformatted some of them under 8.1 and they are now o.k. I am about to rebuild the 7.3 system so we will see.
I have successfully recovered the data that I needed using 7.3 and a hand full of floppies . The 7.3 system will not read partition 4 disks though . Something wrong with my 7.3 system maybe. Mike Ayers
The 03.01.01 at 11:07, Michael Ayers wrote:
It looks as if their is a fault on the disks I made with 7.3 as none of them were readable under 8.1 . I have reformatted some of them under 8.1 and they are now o.k. I am about to rebuild the 7.3 system so we will see.
I have successfully recovered the data that I needed using 7.3 and a hand full of floppies . The 7.3 system will not read partition 4 disks though . Something wrong with my 7.3 system maybe.
Strange... I can read the zips I formated with suse 7.3 as ext2 (part 1) perfectly in suse 8.1, and also fat formated zips (originals) from msdos (part 4). Remember that in order to mount both types you need different fstab entries. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
The 02.12.31 at 14:52, Michael Ayers wrote:
linux:/home/micaye # fdisk -l /dev/hdd
Disk /dev/hdd: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 96 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdd4 * 1 96 98288 6 FAT16
/var/log/boot.msg <4>hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive
This is with a disk formatted for ext2 and partition 1.
I'm sorry to contradict you, but what fdisk reports above is a disk with only partition 4 formated as a dos (fat) disk. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
The 02.12.31 at 11:13, Michael Ayers wrote:
Hi, Has anybody managed to convince their zip drive to use the first primary partition under 8.1 ? And if so how ?
Just did: it took my five minutes, including the time to plug in the unit O:-)
I have tried everything I could find and it still stubbornly refuses to use anything but the fourth partition . Any help would be appreciated .
In my case (it is an external paralell por unit): modprobe imm mount /media/zip fdisk -p /dev/sda nimrodel:~ # fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 239 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 239 244735+ 83 Linux My fstab has this entries (carried from suse 7.3): /dev/sda1 /media/zip auto defaults,noauto,user,exec 0 0 /dev/sda4 /media/zip2 auto defaults,noauto,user,exec 0 0 -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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