A few weeks ago, somebody on this list said "SuSE is more stable than Red Hat; just compare their errata sections." Well, now I require software that requires glibc (glibc has been out a year and a half, libc5 has been discontinued, I think that's not unreasonable). So I set out to upgrade. First I tried <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>>. What a dusty old web site! I hunted all over, but could find no updates section. I distinctly remembered downloading XF86 3.3.3 from an updates section, but 20 minutes of clicking could not find it. In despiration I tried <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/e"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/e</A">http://www.suse.de/e</A</A>>, and got a very different web site! SuSE does NOT mirror its web sites! That's just sloppy. They should shut the U.S. site down if they're not going to use it. As it is, I think it's doing more harm than good. After hunting all around the European site, I found they still don't offer a glibc update. Incredible. Now I've got to waste my time adapting more Red Hat packages. My SuSE system is probably 10% Red Hat by now. While glibc is downloading, I have time to compare the errata pages. Yes, Red Hat's is longer. Know why? SuSE's stops in November! And that was an update for the 2.0.36 kernel; the next latest update is in October, 3 months ago! After seeing that, I took the time to compare like the person suggested. Here are some of Red Hat's updates since November: XFree86 3.3.3.1 Security and bug fixes. Security fixes to kernel 2.0.36 Security fixes in Samba Security fixes in Sysklogd XF86 3.3.3.1 has been available since 30 December! My SuSE XF86 3.3.3 can not run ImageMagick, xv, Maelstrom, or the Gimp because the X server bombs out with an error 11. Many people on this list have complained of the same bug. Red Hat's XF86 3.3.3 does not have this problem. Even if SuSE were not interested in security, you would think that they would want to fix this bug. But we have not heard word 1 from them about this. In fact, I have been on this list 2 months now, and the only thing I heard from anybody at SuSE, even when asked a direct question, was "sorry for filling your mail boxes with hundreds of fax denied and mailbox full messages." So, now I sit here, 3 hours lost and counting, trying to sort glibc conflicts. This means I get to come in to work tomorrow to do what I WANTED to get done today. So much for the weekend. I'm one unhappy SuSE customer. :( - Scott - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>