[opensuse] Is it possible to change the bootloader and loginscreen background?
Hi, No offense, but i am sort of boared by the green bootscreens in opensuse, and want to replace them by more beautiful, to my needs fitting ones. The one that actually boots into the os i was able to change, but the loginscreen is stuck, when trying to change it in systemsettings. Maybe i do something wrong? Kind regards, -- Have a nice day, Oddball OS: Linux 3.1.10-1.16-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@eeepc-rob-sfn9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.1 (i586) KDE: 4.7.2 (4.7.2) "release 5" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/20/2012 08:44 AM, Oddball wrote:
Hi,
No offense, but i am sort of boared by the green bootscreens in opensuse, and want to replace them by more beautiful, to my needs fitting ones. The one that actually boots into the os i was able to change, but the loginscreen is stuck, when trying to change it in systemsettings. Maybe i do something wrong?
Kind regards,
For KDE you should first disable SuSE theme - /etc/displaymanager DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME="" Then in "Personal Settings" you could disable "themed greeter" and then select your own background. Probably you can modify the theme yourself, but I don't know how. Beware there is an old bug in KDE4 (I think, opened from the very first version, but definitely from 4.2) that causes kdm settings reset to default each time KDM is updated). I had to copy settings (/usr/share/kde4/config/kdm backgroundrc and kdmrc to some backup place and restore them after updates). Works fine in KDE3 though. Regards, - -- Mark Goldstein -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQgkuyAAoJEKWTiqSclQacC3AH/RFeBcchuaaJUsh/rmBqAzS7 mXneeKpfgLhhK//VdjESyn9q43x/HECXg/UobF51OajV1e+O6L2zDAhrz5VfC9cE bfNSAYPagE4kPIFisAbEJ5afsagQyvmJL4JqsAXrR1EtjIKR255VUBpz5G5v0xw9 3+NgMmBwCl3FwdVDm1nPGDxvWGCEgGmLcTOY1n48pZRiWYqi/rnV4WlNtTIYvKAv SDEGMzTCYUWLERu4srjyq339jb7ZbLCZ3wH1v+Q1nU7Bftq4dy+ZTg4wfjusEDMg ETjDsdh7DBqXL2s72d19/XfiD4BcbL2ls3ZCGkPP4Ya/5ynegtKUb0D4Q07EYdA= =o+Nm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 20-10-12 08:58, Mark Goldstein schreef:
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On 10/20/2012 08:44 AM, Oddball wrote:
Hi,
No offense, but i am sort of boared by the green bootscreens in opensuse, and want to replace them by more beautiful, to my needs fitting ones. The one that actually boots into the os i was able to change, but the loginscreen is stuck, when trying to change it in systemsettings. Maybe i do something wrong?
Kind regards,
For KDE you should first disable SuSE theme - /etc/displaymanager DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME=""
Then in "Personal Settings" you could disable "themed greeter" and then select your own background. Probably you can modify the theme yourself, but I don't know how. Beware there is an old bug in KDE4 (I think, opened from the very first version, but definitely from 4.2) that causes kdm settings reset to default each time KDM is updated). I had to copy settings (/usr/share/kde4/config/kdm backgroundrc and kdmrc to some backup place and restore them after updates). Works fine in KDE3 though.
Thanx 4 these tips, i will be able to find the location of the displaymanager theme, and will most certainly store a copy somewhere. 8-)
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Op 20-10-12 18:29, Oddball schreef:
Op 20-10-12 08:58, Mark Goldstein schreef:
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On 10/20/2012 08:44 AM, Oddball wrote:
Hi,
No offense, but i am sort of boared by the green bootscreens in opensuse, and want to replace them by more beautiful, to my needs fitting ones. The one that actually boots into the os i was able to change, but the loginscreen is stuck, when trying to change it in systemsettings. Maybe i do something wrong?
Kind regards,
For KDE you should first disable SuSE theme - /etc/displaymanager DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME=""
In KDE4 this location does not exist anymore .. -- Have a nice day, Oddball OS: Linux 3.1.10-1.16-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@eeepc-rob-sfn9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.1 (i586) KDE: 4.7.2 (4.7.2) "release 5" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/21/2012 01:06 PM, Oddball wrote:
For KDE you should first disable SuSE theme - /etc/displaymanager DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME=""
In KDE4 this location does not exist anymore .. .......................
- perhaps : /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager ............... best regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 21-10-12 12:12, ellanios82 schreef:
On 10/21/2012 01:06 PM, Oddball wrote:
For KDE you should first disable SuSE theme - /etc/displaymanager DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME=""
In KDE4 this location does not exist anymore .. .......................
- perhaps :
/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager
This does exist. But what a fuss to just change a background image... The only thing i want to have changed is the backgound image of the bootloaderscreen, the screens that follow up, and the loginmanager screen. It has just to be the same image for all, so no difficult things at all. Th only thing i want to know is which files (pathnames, or how to find them) have to be replaced by the image i want to use. The problem is also that the system settings for KDM logon screen are disabled, or get overwritten by the default settings It is very hard to understand why such simple things, as replacing an image, has to be that difficult. Kind regards.
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best regards
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On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Oddball <monkey9@iae.nl> wrote:
Op 21-10-12 12:12, ellanios82 schreef:
On 10/21/2012 01:06 PM, Oddball wrote:
For KDE you should first disable SuSE theme - /etc/displaymanager DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME=""
In KDE4 this location does not exist anymore ..
.......................
- perhaps :
/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager
Sorry, my mistake, of course it should be in sysconfig and you can use Yast sysem module to edit these files.
But what a fuss to just change a background image... The only thing i want to have changed is the backgound image of the bootloaderscreen, the screens that follow up, and the loginmanager screen. It has just to be the same image for all, so no difficult things at all.
Not sure it is possible. Very different components are responsible for these BG images. Bootloader screen is displayed before X is started, file system is not yet accessible, so there is special mechanism and it is different in different bootloaders (even GRUB 2 and GRUB 1 a.k.a. GRUB legacy differ in that). In the X different users use different display mangers, so it is also difficult to make them all using the same image. This thing with DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME existed long ago. I agree, it is not convenient if one do not like default SUSE theme, but you get used to it.
Th only thing i want to know is which files (pathnames, or how to find them) have to be replaced by the image i want to use.
The problem is also that the system settings for KDM logon screen are disabled, or get overwritten by the default settings
As I wrote, for the KDM the background image (if you do not use themed greeter) is in config/kdm/backgroundrc. For KDE4 it is in /usr/share/kde4 and for KDE3 in /opt/kde3/...). And yes, for KDE4 it is overwritten every time there is KDM update. Bug #566252 has been opened in December 2009 and it is still there, happily sitting in NEW state. As it looks, it was only me bumping into it... Regards, -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 21-10-12 15:53, Mark Goldstein schreef:
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Oddball <monkey9@iae.nl> wrote:
Op 21-10-12 12:12, ellanios82 schreef:
On 10/21/2012 01:06 PM, Oddball wrote:
For KDE you should first disable SuSE theme - /etc/displaymanager DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME=""
In KDE4 this location does not exist anymore .. .......................
- perhaps :
/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager Sorry, my mistake, of course it should be in sysconfig and you can use Yast sysem module to edit these files. np, i did not think about it.....
But what a fuss to just change a background image... The only thing i want to have changed is the backgound image of the bootloaderscreen, the screens that follow up, and the loginmanager screen. It has just to be the same image for all, so no difficult things at all. Not sure it is possible. Very different components are responsible for these BG images. Bootloader screen is displayed before X is started, file system is not yet accessible, so there is special mechanism and it is different in different bootloaders (even GRUB 2 and GRUB 1 a.k.a. GRUB legacy differ in that).
only very simple images can be used here, that is correct..
In the X different users use different display mangers, so it is also difficult to make them all using the same image.
This thing with DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME existed long ago. I agree, it is not convenient if one do not like default SUSE theme, but you get used to it.
I got used to it, but now i am not longer wanting to stay used at it, ;-)
Th only thing i want to know is which files (pathnames, or how to find them) have to be replaced by the image i want to use.
The problem is also that the system settings for KDM logon screen are disabled, or get overwritten by the default settings As I wrote, for the KDM the background image (if you do not use themed greeter) is in config/kdm/backgroundrc. For KDE4 it is in /usr/share/kde4 and for KDE3 in /opt/kde3/...). And yes, for KDE4 it is overwritten every time there is KDM update. Bug #566252 has been opened in December 2009 and it is still there, happily sitting in NEW state. As it looks, it was only me bumping into it...
Regards,
I will look at it and add a comment, who knows, time is found by the maintainer to resolve it? -- Have a nice day, Oddball OS: Linux 3.1.10-1.16-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@eeepc-rob-sfn9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.1 (i586) KDE: 4.7.2 (4.7.2) "release 5" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:22:22 +0200 Oddball <monkey9@iae.nl> wrote: ...
only very simple images can be used here, that is correct..
With plymouth it is not the case :) Problem is that plymouth is not simple, so there is a lot to learn before I can tell how to change image, or script (moving lights are produced by script), or anything else. ...
I got used to it, but now i am not longer wanting to stay used at it, ;-)
I changed it, and will try to find out how :) Most likely installing branding upstream package to get KDE artwork. Look at 'zypper se branding" . That should give you list of packages that have branding in the name. ... -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 22-10-12 06:29, Rajko schreef:
only very simple images can be used here, that is correct.. With plymouth it is not the case :) Problem is that plymouth is not simple, so there is a lot to learn before I can tell how to change image, or script (moving lights are
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:22:22 +0200 Oddball <monkey9@iae.nl> wrote: ... produced by script), or anything else.
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I got used to it, but now i am not longer wanting to stay used at it, ;-) I changed it, and will try to find out how :) Most likely installing branding upstream package to get KDE artwork.
Look at 'zypper se branding" . That should give you list of packages that have branding in the name.
...
.... i have installed 12.2 just now... Had to throw away old user /home...12.1 residue and settings obsolete, and made system react as vista: big and sluggish... now with new /home: nice, clean, and snappy.. ;-) Video drivers have been improved much: fonts are more readable than ever! acpi works also good. Grub2 looks and feels different, moving lights are attractive... i will stay with it 4 a while... and than I will find out if the KDM configuration works here on 12.2 Kind Regards... -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.4.11-2.16-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.8.5 (4.8.5) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
ellanios82 wrote:
On 10/21/2012 01:06 PM, Oddball wrote:
For KDE you should first disable SuSE theme - /etc/displaymanager DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME=""
In KDE4 this location does not exist anymore .. .......................
- perhaps :
/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager
These setting tend to be available through Yast > System > /etc/sysconfig Editor. Why do it the hard way? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 21-10-12 15:58, James Knott schreef:
ellanios82 wrote:
On 10/21/2012 01:06 PM, Oddball wrote:
For KDE you should first disable SuSE theme - /etc/displaymanager DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME=""
In KDE4 this location does not exist anymore .. .......................
- perhaps :
/etc/sysconfig/displaymanager
These setting tend to be available through Yast > System > /etc/sysconfig Editor. Why do it the hard way?
I guess 'coz i was too stupid to think about an easier way? ;-) I will look into it, thnx.. Hope it will work, because, like Marc said, not every image can be displayed at that time, because x is not running yet. I noticed that a 411 image is to be used, according to the output of mkinitrd, when i updated my changed images. -- Have a nice day, Oddball OS: Linux 3.1.10-1.16-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@eeepc-rob-sfn9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.1 (i586) KDE: 4.7.2 (4.7.2) "release 5" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Oddball wrote:
I guess 'coz i was too stupid to think about an easier way? ;-) I will look into it, thnx.. Hope it will work, because, like Marc said, not every image can be displayed at that time, because x is not running yet.
You can always run yast in ncurses mode. Just open a terminal session as root and run "yast", not "yast2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012-10-20 08:44 (GMT+0200) Oddball composed:
No offense, but i am sort of boared by the green bootscreens in opensuse, and want to replace them by more beautiful, to my needs fitting ones.
I don't like them either, if you're talking about the Grub GFXmenu.
The one that actually boots into the os i was able to change, but the loginscreen is stuck, when trying to change it in systemsettings.
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Gfxboot I usually fix it quite simply: 'gfxboot --change-config boot::penguin=100'. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 20-10-12 09:04, Felix Miata schreef:
On 2012-10-20 08:44 (GMT+0200) Oddball composed:
No offense, but i am sort of boared by the green bootscreens in opensuse, and want to replace them by more beautiful, to my needs fitting ones.
I don't like them either, if you're talking about the Grub GFXmenu.
The one that actually boots into the os i was able to change, but the loginscreen is stuck, when trying to change it in systemsettings.
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Gfxboot
I usually fix it quite simply: 'gfxboot --change-config boot::penguin=100'.
Thnx Felix, will try this.. ;-) -- Have a nice day, Oddball OS: Linux 3.1.10-1.16-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@eeepc-rob-sfn9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.1 (i586) KDE: 4.7.2 (4.7.2) "release 5" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 20-10-12 18:31, Oddball schreef:
Op 20-10-12 09:04, Felix Miata schreef:
On 2012-10-20 08:44 (GMT+0200) Oddball composed:
No offense, but i am sort of boared by the green bootscreens in opensuse, and want to replace them by more beautiful, to my needs fitting ones.
I don't like them either, if you're talking about the Grub GFXmenu.
The one that actually boots into the os i was able to change, but the loginscreen is stuck, when trying to change it in systemsettings.
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Gfxboot
I usually fix it quite simply: 'gfxboot --change-config boot::penguin=100'.
Thnx Felix, will try this.. ;-)
I took a look at the page you suggested, but it is not actually easy to just change a background image this way. I googled around, and came via kubuntu forums at this: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-z2NyqD51sSs/T40Ef4Uk1aI/AAAAAAAAK0Q/pzcUs... Do you think this will work with grub also? Or do i have to install grub2 for it? Kind Regards. -- Have a nice day, Oddball OS: Linux 3.1.10-1.16-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@eeepc-rob-sfn9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.1 (i586) KDE: 4.7.2 (4.7.2) "release 5" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 21-10-12 12:12, Oddball schreef:
Op 20-10-12 18:31, Oddball schreef:
Op 20-10-12 09:04, Felix Miata schreef:
On 2012-10-20 08:44 (GMT+0200) Oddball composed:
No offense, but i am sort of boared by the green bootscreens in opensuse, and want to replace them by more beautiful, to my needs fitting ones.
I don't like them either, if you're talking about the Grub GFXmenu.
The one that actually boots into the os i was able to change, but the loginscreen is stuck, when trying to change it in systemsettings.
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Gfxboot
I usually fix it quite simply: 'gfxboot --change-config boot::penguin=100'.
Thnx Felix, will try this.. ;-)
I took a look at the page you suggested, but it is not actually easy to just change a background image this way.
I googled around, and came via kubuntu forums at this: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-z2NyqD51sSs/T40Ef4Uk1aI/AAAAAAAAK0Q/pzcUs...
Do you think this will work with grub also? Or do i have to install grub2 for it?
Kind Regards.
The SDB:gfxboot: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Gfxboot is outdated, the direction mentioned there, is no longer valid in 12.1....
gfxboot essentially works with the /boot/message file
to update it according to themes found in /usr/share/gfxboot/themes to manage the content of the configuration file gfxboot.cfg contained in the archive file /boot/message
The gfxboot-devel package and a virtual machine provider package, such as qemu is required to develop and test new themes.
There are only 2 themes supplied with openSUSE [at 11.0], namely openSUSE and upstream.
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On 2012-10-21 14:16 (GMT+0200) Oddball composed:
The SDB:gfxboot:
is outdated, the direction mentioned there, is no longer valid in 12.1....
Exactly what did you find to be "outdated"? It worked for me 10 weeks ago in 11.4, 12.1 & 12.2, even though it refers to a non-existent "/usr/share/gfxboot/themes/<theme>". -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 21-10-12 17:09, Felix Miata schreef:
On 2012-10-21 14:16 (GMT+0200) Oddball composed:
The SDB:gfxboot:
is outdated, the direction mentioned there, is no longer valid in 12.1....
Exactly what did you find to be "outdated"? It worked for me 10 weeks ago in 11.4, 12.1 & 12.2, even though it refers to a non-existent "/usr/share/gfxboot/themes/<theme>".
I got to the part where it should work indeed.. I unpacked and repacked with cpio, added, probably, a too heavy image, (while the picture at the site showed an image almost as i wanted, and only the actually grub, bootloader screen went black. The rest continued with SUSE theme... I created /usr/share/gfxboot/themes/ but did not know what exactly should be put there, so i only put an image, which did not work. The black grubscreen is ok with me, i like that. But the other screens show what is happening at the moment, like when pressing escape-key.... -- Have a nice day, Oddball OS: Linux 3.1.10-1.16-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@eeepc-rob-sfn9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.1 (i586) KDE: 4.7.2 (4.7.2) "release 5" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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