[opensuse] 10.2: what are the update differences?
Hi list, While I still work with 10.0 I installed 10.2 in a small partition as a second boot option, so I can play, learn and get used to it. Install was easy. Now I wonder about the differences in the update tools: there is "online update" in Yast and the orange exclamation mark in the control bar. While "online update" showed just a few lines, the orange thing showed a much larger list. I decided to use this one (more is better, isn't it? ;-) ). After downloading a while it said, it was successful, but the exclamation mark remained orange. So I clicked it again, it dowloaded again, was successful again, and finally the icon was changed. I opened Yast again, clicked "online update" and the list was gone, just the M$-fonts (which I havn't downloaded) was still there. Can somebody please tell me what's the difference between those update methods? Is everything in "online update" also in the orange exclamation mark, but not vice-versa? Or are these completely different things? Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com Madagascar special: http://www.sanic.ch -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
this link might help a bit. http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp On 12/28/06, Daniel Bauer <linux@daniel-bauer.com> wrote:
Hi list,
While I still work with 10.0 I installed 10.2 in a small partition as a second boot option, so I can play, learn and get used to it. Install was easy.
Now I wonder about the differences in the update tools: there is "online update" in Yast and the orange exclamation mark in the control bar.
While "online update" showed just a few lines, the orange thing showed a much larger list. I decided to use this one (more is better, isn't it? ;-) ). After downloading a while it said, it was successful, but the exclamation mark remained orange. So I clicked it again, it dowloaded again, was successful again, and finally the icon was changed.
I opened Yast again, clicked "online update" and the list was gone, just the M$-fonts (which I havn't downloaded) was still there.
Can somebody please tell me what's the difference between those update methods? Is everything in "online update" also in the orange exclamation mark, but not vice-versa? Or are these completely different things?
Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com Madagascar special: http://www.sanic.ch -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Thursday 28 December 2006 18:41, Darko Gavrilovic wrote:
this link might help a bit.
thanks, I'd never have come to the idea to search for "libzypp"... Daniel
On 12/28/06, Daniel Bauer <linux@daniel-bauer.com> wrote:
Hi list,
While I still work with 10.0 I installed 10.2 in a small partition as a second boot option, so I can play, learn and get used to it. Install was easy.
Now I wonder about the differences in the update tools: there is "online update" in Yast and the orange exclamation mark in the control bar.
While "online update" showed just a few lines, the orange thing showed a much larger list. I decided to use this one (more is better, isn't it? ;-) ). After downloading a while it said, it was successful, but the exclamation mark remained orange. So I clicked it again, it dowloaded again, was successful again, and finally the icon was changed.
I opened Yast again, clicked "online update" and the list was gone, just the M$-fonts (which I havn't downloaded) was still there.
Can somebody please tell me what's the difference between those update methods? Is everything in "online update" also in the orange exclamation mark, but not vice-versa? Or are these completely different things?
Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com Madagascar special: http://www.sanic.ch -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-- "Develop success from failures. Discouragement and failure are two of the surest stepping stones to success." - Dale Carnegie
-- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com Madagascar special: http://www.sanic.ch -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Daniel Bauer wrote:
Now I wonder about the differences in the update tools: there is "online update" in Yast and the orange exclamation mark in the control bar.
In 10.2, there are 2 similar but very different update programs. One is opensuse updater, which is a lightweight update program which ONLY looks for security updates. The other is zen-updater, which is the heavyweight check for all possible updates in all your configured repositories updater. They serve different purposes. Some folks only want to be notified when there is a security update (and will check and update other packages manually), while some want to keep their system completely up to date (i.e. bleeding edge). There is another program included to only start one OR the other, run-updater. It is controlled by a sysconfig variable. As with many things, you get full control and get to choose which you prefer. HTH. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Thank you Joe, your answer makes it clear to me. I often wished, "official" information would be so clear and easy to understand... Daniel On Friday 29 December 2006 01:47, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
Daniel Bauer wrote:
Now I wonder about the differences in the update tools: there is "online update" in Yast and the orange exclamation mark in the control bar.
In 10.2, there are 2 similar but very different update programs. One is opensuse updater, which is a lightweight update program which ONLY looks for security updates. The other is zen-updater, which is the heavyweight check for all possible updates in all your configured repositories updater. They serve different purposes. Some folks only want to be notified when there is a security update (and will check and update other packages manually), while some want to keep their system completely up to date (i.e. bleeding edge). There is another program included to only start one OR the other, run-updater. It is controlled by a sysconfig variable. As with many things, you get full control and get to choose which you prefer. HTH.
-- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64
-- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com Madagascar special: http://www.sanic.ch -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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