[opensuse] zypper dup question
Hi all, At an openSUSE 12.3 KDE installation, without third-party repositories, zypper dup shows two packages for installation: openSUSE-release-ftp (openSUSE-release, and openSUSE-release-dvd, are already installed) and yast2-inetd-doc (yast2-inetd is already installed) I am not sure what openSUSE-release-ftp does. Does it configure the default repositories? Also, is it safe to always perform zypper dup, instead of zypper up, to openSUSE 12.3 installations without third party repositories? Thank you. Ioannis Vranos http://www.cppsoftware.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-09 10:15, Ioannis Vranos wrote:
Hi all,
At an openSUSE 12.3 KDE installation, without third-party repositories, zypper dup shows two packages for installation:
openSUSE-release-ftp
Just have a look at contents: Telcontar:~ # rpm -ql openSUSE-release /etc/SuSE-release /etc/YaST2 /etc/YaST2/control.xml /etc/issue /etc/issue.net /etc/motd /etc/os-release /etc/products.d /etc/products.d/baseproduct /etc/products.d/openSUSE.prod Telcontar:~ # It serves mostly to track what installation you did, where from. If you dup, let it be installed.
and
yast2-inetd-doc
(yast2-inetd is already installed)
A dup makes your system equate your configured repos. Thus it adds packages or removes others.
I am not sure what openSUSE-release-ftp does. Does it configure the default repositories?
Also, is it safe to always perform zypper dup, instead of zypper up,
zypper dup is never safe. Use only if really needed. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlG0QqEACgkQIvFNjefEBxryvwCgkc78TfOqorp8xPmUST13YMwW k/oAmwTOGgJHZ3sZsTtPLwDeP2oumhXf =aZOQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-06-09 10:53 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
zypper dup is never safe.
For some definition of "safe". It seems to me up might be the more dangerous choice if running Factory.
Use only if really needed.
Like when running Factory and you want your system to be up to date? If I've ever used up on a Factory system it would have been by accident, not intentional. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-09 11:58, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2013-06-09 10:53 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
zypper dup is never safe.
For some definition of "safe". It seems to me up might be the more dangerous choice if running Factory.
Oh, absolutely, but this is not the factory mail list, nor is the OP running factory ;-)
Use only if really needed.
Like when running Factory and you want your system to be up to date? If I've ever used up on a Factory system it would have been by accident, not intentional.
Yes, you really need "dup" when "updating" factory. You are not really updating the system, you are upgrading it ;-) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlG0WBEACgkQIvFNjefEBxptygCgzPXAQ1IqBL6zoAlp5SJQdBq3 c/YAn3LBHr53Qh2EqgxNIuOIuUxg2bAM =pvHu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/09/2013 10:15 AM, Ioannis Vranos wrote:
is it safe to always perform zypper dup
no! "zypper dup" is inherently dangerous when used without understanding of openSUSE's repo stucture and software management.. it is a sure fire way to kill a system without really trying. see: "man zypper" http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE/opensuse-startup/part.re... and, these very basic, new-to-openSUSE questions are probably better suited to the forums, here: http://forums.opensuse.org/ where they have already been covered hundreds (or thousands) of times and easily discoverable with a google like: http://tinyurl.com/on982r3 dd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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