I have two kinds of questions about how to send faxes under SuSE Linux 10.0. First, there seem to be two competing and incompatible packages: sendfax and hylafax. How should one choose between them? Second, I'm having some difficulty locating appropriate hardware. The very common PCTel winmodems aren't supported under the 2.6 kernel. External modems avoid the driver problems but are a pain to deal with. Does anyone have some reasonably-priced PCI modems to recommend? I need the modem only for faxing, since I have cable Internet service. Paul
On Thursday 08 December 2005 01:33, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
I have two kinds of questions about how to send faxes under SuSE Linux 10.0.
First, there seem to be two competing and incompatible packages: sendfax and hylafax. How should one choose between them?
Second, I'm having some difficulty locating appropriate hardware. The very common PCTel winmodems aren't supported under the 2.6 kernel. External modems avoid the driver problems but are a pain to deal with. Does anyone have some reasonably-priced PCI modems to recommend? I need the modem only for faxing, since I have cable Internet service.
Paul I second the question.
I'll be using hylafax as it has done good service for me over the years. Jerry
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 07:33 pm, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
Second, I'm having some difficulty locating appropriate hardware. The very common PCTel winmodems aren't supported under the 2.6 kernel.
Why would anyone want a winmodem?
External modems avoid the driver problems but are a pain to deal with.
Why?? Nothing could be simpler than an external modem. Highly recommended.
Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 07:33 pm, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
Second, I'm having some difficulty locating appropriate hardware. The very common PCTel winmodems aren't supported under the 2.6 kernel.
Why would anyone want a winmodem?
External modems avoid the driver problems but are a pain to deal with.
Why?? Nothing could be simpler than an external modem. Highly recommended.
Notebook computers generally come with "Windmodems" and people don't want to haul around an external modem. My ThinkPad has a Winmodem, which runs fine in Linux.
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 08:15 pm, James Knott wrote:
Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 07:33 pm, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
Second, I'm having some difficulty locating appropriate hardware. The very common PCTel winmodems aren't supported under the 2.6 kernel.
Why would anyone want a winmodem?
External modems avoid the driver problems but are a pain to deal with.
Why?? Nothing could be simpler than an external modem. Highly recommended.
Notebook computers generally come with "Windmodems" and people don't want to haul around an external modem. My ThinkPad has a Winmodem, which runs fine in Linux.
Yes, and I have one too and it runs fine... That's not the point. If you are looking for a *NEW* modem, why pick a winmodem???????
On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 20:18 -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 08:15 pm, James Knott wrote:
Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 07:33 pm, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
Second, I'm having some difficulty locating appropriate hardware. The very common PCTel winmodems aren't supported under the 2.6 kernel.
Why would anyone want a winmodem?
External modems avoid the driver problems but are a pain to deal with.
Why?? Nothing could be simpler than an external modem. Highly recommended.
Notebook computers generally come with "Windmodems" and people don't want to haul around an external modem. My ThinkPad has a Winmodem, which runs fine in Linux.
Yes, and I have one too and it runs fine... That's not the point.
If you are looking for a *NEW* modem, why pick a winmodem???????
I wouldn't, but it's getting harder and harder to find actual hardware modems here abouts.
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 8:09 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 07:33 pm, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
Second, I'm having some difficulty locating appropriate hardware. The very common PCTel winmodems aren't supported under the 2.6 kernel.
Why would anyone want a winmodem?
Because (in my opinion at least) the alternatives are not very appetizing.
External modems avoid the driver problems but are a pain to deal with.
Why?? Nothing could be simpler than an external modem. Highly recommended.
It involves extra cabling and extra desk space plus another box to take care of. Paul
Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 07:33 pm, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
Second, I'm having some difficulty locating appropriate hardware. The very common PCTel winmodems aren't supported under the 2.6 kernel.
Why would anyone want a winmodem
Not want but "it came with the notebook" and end-users just want it to work. Actually, winmodem support is something end-users just expect to work. They won't take the "get an external modem" argument and a few of them take quite a while to grasp the fact that most manufacturers don't supply Linux drivers. Don't forget we are talking of quite a few boxes out there than can be converted to SuSE or any other Linux flavor and that already have winmodems... Now, if someone could get a "WinModem Wrapper" going like the NDISWrapper project... :) Salomon
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 07:33 pm, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
First, there seem to be two competing and incompatible packages: sendfax and hylafax. How should one choose between them?
Uhhh man sendfax will show you that they are both part of the same facility. NAME sendfax - submit a facsimile job for transmission SYNOPSIS sendfax [ options ] [ files... ] DESCRIPTION sendfax submits one or more facsimile transmission requests to a HylaFAX facsimile server.
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 8:10 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 07:33 pm, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
First, there seem to be two competing and incompatible packages: sendfax and hylafax. How should one choose between them?
Uhhh
man sendfax
will show you that they are both part of the same facility.
A most reasonable but wrong conclusion. If you go to Yast and do a search through the available packages with the keyword "fax", you'll discover that there's a sendfax package and also a hylafax package. If you try to install them both, you'll get a conflict complaint. Paul
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 6:33 pm, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
I have two kinds of questions about how to send faxes under SuSE Linux 10.0.
First, there seem to be two competing and incompatible packages: sendfax and hylafax. How should one choose between them?
hylafax all the way. Simple and powerful enough for a single user all the way to thousands of users and lots of modems on a large LAN. Very mature and very well debugged.
Second, I'm having some difficulty locating appropriate hardware. The very common PCTel winmodems aren't supported under the 2.6 kernel. External modems avoid the driver problems but are a pain to deal with. Does anyone have some reasonably-priced PCI modems to recommend? I need the modem only for faxing, since I have cable Internet service.
Paul
External modem if this is a server or desktop style machine. Easily replaced if it dies and easier to troubleshoot during installation since you don't have to open the machine. If you go PCI just make sure its not a winmodem and you should be good to go. I am curious if anyone responds with known working brands and models. Stan
If you go PCI just make sure its not a winmodem and you should be good to go. I am curious if anyone responds with known working brands and models.
Stan
SuSE 10.0 had no problem finding/configuring my laptop's AC'97 Modem Controller. I was very pleasantly surprised. Buddy Coffey Advanced Electromagnetics
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 10:11 pm, Buddy Coffey wrote:
If you go PCI just make sure its not a winmodem and you should be good to go. I am curious if anyone responds with known working brands and models.
Stan
SuSE 10.0 had no problem finding/configuring my laptop's AC'97 Modem Controller. I was very pleasantly surprised.
It seems that the winmodems that come with laptops generally are supported by the latest Linux kernel, but the winmodems that come with desktops are not. (Counterexamples invited.) Paul
Buddy Coffey wrote:
If you go PCI just make sure its not a winmodem and you should be good to go. I am curious if anyone responds with known working brands and models.
Stan
SuSE 10.0 had no problem finding/configuring my laptop's AC'97 Modem Controller. I was very pleasantly surprised.
I have the same one in my ThinkPad. Works well.
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 22:02, Stan Glasoe wrote: <snippage>
If you go PCI just make sure its not a winmodem and you should be good to go. I am curious if anyone responds with known working brands and models.
I had great luck with a PCI U.S. Robotics 5610B before we got DSL out here. It's a true hardware modem. My mind was made up as soon as I read this on the box: "Works with Linux and Windows; you're not limited to Windows applications" :-) Worked straight out of the box with 8.2 and 9.0, IIRC... YMMV, of course. - Carl
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