I think you guys are right. Now, I got further question. I have a 22 GB hard drive which I want to install Win98 and Linux on it. I would like to have 10GB space for Win98. 1) How should I partition my harddrive and still be able to put Linux's boot partition before the first 8GB? 2) Is it possible to install the Linux at the first 12GB and then install Win98 afterward? But by doing this, how can I restore the Lilo after I boot into 98? ACtaully, can win98 be put in the last 10GB? 3) In my case, actually how big of a partition I need to reserve for the /boot so that it is still in the first 1024 cylinders? Any help will be greatly appreciated. I think SUSE did a great job at least it recognized my Ultra66 automatically which Mandrake and Redhat cannot do. Anyone know why? WM
From: Lenz Grimmer <grimmer@suse.de> To: SuSE Mailing List <suse-linux-e@suse.com> Subject: Re: [SLE] Question about boot disk Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 18:55:25 +0100 (MET)
Hi,
On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, Chris Reeves wrote:
William Chang wrote:
Yes, it is a normal floppy disk. I do forgot to mentioned one thing. The linux I installed is in like hde of my hard drive and it is prossible over 1024 cylinder. However, I am not sure if that matters since I am trying to install the Lilo on the floppy disk.
I'm afraid it does still make a difference. Your best bet would be to create a small (say 10MB) /boot partition at the start of your drive before your root partition, and have the kernel install into that (as it does by default).
AFAIK, there's no way to make LILO boot a kernel above 1024 cylinders... unless this is a new feature in the latest version of LILO... You certainly can't do it with the LILO included with SuSE though.
Some newer BIOSes seem to be able to boot a kernel above that limit. However I don't know, if LILO is capable of that, too. In this case, the error message from YaST2 is a bit misleading. This will be fixed for the next release.
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William Chang wrote:
I think you guys are right. Now, I got further question. I have a 22 GB hard drive which I want to install Win98 and Linux on it. I would like to have 10GB space for Win98.
1) How should I partition my harddrive and still be able to put Linux's boot partition before the first 8GB?
I would partition it as follows: 10MB /boot partition 10GB win partition Your Linux partitions after this in an extended partition. For your Linux partition I would do the following: 128M swap # a reasonable size swap at the start for fast access 5G /usr # near the start 'cos it's used a lot and separate 'cos it gets filled up quickly 1.5G / # near the start 'cos it's used a lot 500M /var # to stop logs clogging up / 1.5G /home # user files separate to make upgrades easier 2G /opt # this can also eat space, but usually not as much as /usr or something similar. Remember, this is only *my* opinion. There are many ways to split your Linux partitions up, and I'm sure many people will have different ideas... You may even want a separate partition for /usr/local
2) Is it possible to install the Linux at the first 12GB and then install Win98 afterward? But by doing this, how can I restore the Lilo after I boot into 98? ACtaully, can win98 be put in the last 10GB?
I don't think it would like that. You'd probably run out of primary partitions (Windows *must* install into a primary partition). I would install Linux first (first as in time, not first on the disk) and install LILO to the MBR, but also make a boot floppy disk. Then install Win98, which will kill LILO. Since you have a boot disk you can boot Linux using that disk and re-run LILO.
3) In my case, actually how big of a partition I need to reserve for the /boot so that it is still in the first 1024 cylinders?
You'll only need 10 or 20M for your boot partition. Hope that helps, Chris -- __ _ -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chris Reeves /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ICQ# 22219005 _\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
William Chang wrote:
I think you guys are right. Now, I got further question. I have a 22 GB hard drive which I want to install Win98 and Linux on it. I would like to have 10GB space for Win98.
1) How should I partition my harddrive and still be able to put Linux's boot partition before the first 8GB?
I'd think it would be pretty easy: just create a small (primary) boot partition at the beginning of the disk (200MB, say), and put all the interesting top-level directories in one or more other partitions. For example, you might have hda1 as the boot partition for Linux, hda2 as the Windows partition, and then a big extended partition with lots of logical partitions. So hda5 (a logical partition) might contain /usr, hda6 might contain /var and /home, etc. To finish it off, suppose you mount /dev/hda5 as /aux1. Then you'd have the symbolic link ln -s /aux1/usr /usr Or, alternatively, just mount /dev/hda5 as /usr. I like the other scheme because it allows for other stuff on the auxiliary partitions. You can also give Windows a minimal primary partition and then load everything else into logical partitions. Paul Abrahams -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
William Chang wrote:
I think you guys are right. Now, I got further question. I have a 22 GB hard drive which I want to install Win98 and Linux on it. I would like to have 10GB space for Win98.
1) How should I partition my harddrive and still be able to put Linux's boot partition before the first 8GB? 2) Is it possible to install the Linux at the first 12GB and then install Win98 afterward? But by doing this, how can I restore the Lilo after I boot into 98? ACtaully, can win98 be put in the last 10GB? 3) In my case, actually how big of a partition I need to reserve for the /boot so that it is still in the first 1024 cylinders?
Any help will be greatly appreciated. I think SUSE did a great job at least it recognized my Ultra66 automatically which Mandrake and Redhat cannot do. Anyone know why?
WM
You must also install Windows' boot partition within the first 1024 cyl. I have found Windows98 to be very flaky using anything past 8GB, except when the hard disk is not partitioned. I have cyl 1-1022 Win98 cyl 1023 linux /boot cyl 1024 plus extended with various Linux logical partitions, and swap. This limits me to 8GB for Windows, but that is more than enough!! :) cll
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hiya, I have Linux, Solaris and Windows working with Lilo in a Toshiba TECRA8000 notebook. It has a 14GB hard disk. Following is my partition configuration: hda1 extended <hda5,hda6> hda2 Win/Fat32 hda3 Solaris <hda7, hda8, hda9...> hda4 Linux root hda5 Linux boot hda6 Linux boot (...) Lilo is in the Master Boot Record, this is upper the first partition. So, there's no problem at all to start lilo. The first partition contains two logical patitions with the /boot and /swap for my linux. It is the first 130MB of my HD. Next one in the disk is Win partition. I suggest you don't extend Win above the 1024 cylinders. You will find no problems to run linux in the high cylinders as long as you start it in the low cylinders (below famous 1024), so keep /boot in a separate partition at the begining of your disk. Before that I was playing with NT, BEOS, and other OSs, always the same way... On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:37:50 PST, William Chang wrote:
I think you guys are right. Now, I got further question. I have a 22 GB hard drive which I want to install Win98 and Linux on it. I would like to have 10GB space for Win98.
1) How should I partition my harddrive and still be able to put Linux's boot partition before the first 8GB?
boot partition uses to be small, put at the begin.
2) Is it possible to install the Linux at the first 12GB and then install Win98 afterward? But by doing this, how can I restore the Lilo after I boot into 98?
Don't try that... It can work (yes I tried) but maybe some day, after a Win defrag, your Win is no longer starting up...(yes I proof ;-) If you keep your boot partition at the begining there is no problem at all in moving your linux parttions to high disc sectors.
3) In my case, actually how big of a partition I need to reserve for the /boot so that it is still in the first 1024 cylinders?
More or less 10MB it's enough. Do you use to keep many kernel in the boot??? I mean do you keep your old kernels after compiling? Regards, Pep Serrano pep@serrano.net http://pep.serrano.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBOLGNM8XRH5QDajQrEQItGwCglbXUHM/4KlbJumuU0+F5+FIAk5AAnAxG sNVVLySAhM4QcCztjf0V8fo0 =VvI5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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