And now my weekend begins.... :-)))
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Yes - 8.2 upgrade arrived yesterday in Wiltshire, UK. With 2 DVDs I suppose I ought to get into the 21st Century and buy a DVD drive :-) Damian
It arrived here in Gloucester about 90 minutes ago, and I have now upgraded and mostly all is well. Fonts in KMail have changed to some very wide spacing but I can reset manually. Some longstanding bug related to my hardware [I forgot what] required that I prss shift while booting from CD - that still persists. And a window came up too big on install for 640 by 480 or whatever. I use LILO with an option to boot from /dev/fd0 - unfortunately I forgot to have a disk in the drive and the install got lost and LILO got hosed - so when I've sent this I'll have to su and fix that. I have never before done an upgrsde on any OS without leaving it at least a month to see what grief other people have [and how they fixed it]. But right now I am not seeing any reason to regret my haste! So first impressions, it's a good'un. regards Vince Littler
On Friday 11 April 2003 11:42 am, Vince Littler wrote:
It arrived here in Gloucester about 90 minutes ago, and I have now upgraded and mostly all is well.
mine's still in the bl00dy parcelforce lorry... all i got was a silly little card through the door and a phone number to ring... "we're sorry but we can't get hold of the driver until he's finished his run and you won't be able to pick it up from the depot tonight as we close to customers before the lorries get back..." arrrghhh, will be round there, banging on the door first thing tomorrow...
I got it this morning and installed it this afternoon (UK resident). I had to leave for a while during the installation of CDROM #1 and when I came back, my USB mouse was no longer working after I woke up the screen. After that small problem, and 4 CDROMs later, I logged in and noticed that my Gnome setup was totally broken. I reinstalled gnome and performed rm -rf on all my .gconf and .gnome* files and let gnome generate new ones. All OK after that. Later, I mistakenly launched SuSE's mozilla and it stepped on my mozilla 1.3 files that I already had. No biggie. The mail client behaves differently now but I'll eventually fix it or just ignore it. I'm off exploring the rest of the system. Just one reboot when I started the installation. I was lazy. Paul Cooke wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2003 11:42 am, Vince Littler wrote:
It arrived here in Gloucester about 90 minutes ago, and I have now upgraded and mostly all is well.
mine's still in the bl00dy parcelforce lorry... all i got was a silly little card through the door and a phone number to ring... "we're sorry but we can't get hold of the driver until he's finished his run and you won't be able to pick it up from the depot tonight as we close to customers before the lorries get back..." arrrghhh, will be round there, banging on the door first thing tomorrow...
On Friday 11 April 2003 04:42, Vince Littler wrote:
Some longstanding bug related to my hardware [I forgot what] required that I prss shift while booting from CD - that still persists. And a window came up too big on install for 640 by 480 or whatever.
So first impressions, it's a good'un.
regards
Vince Littler
I have the same problem. The install windows are too large on my LCD monitor. So far I have to install using another monitor. Does anyone have a better idea? Jerome
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On Friday 11 April 2003 04:42, Vince Littler wrote:
Some longstanding bug related to my hardware [I forgot what] required that I prss shift while booting from CD - that still persists. And a window came up too big on install for 640 by 480 or whatever.
So first impressions, it's a good'un.
regards
Vince Littler
I have the same problem. The install windows are too large on my LCD monitor. So far I have to install using another monitor. Does anyone have a better idea? Jerome
I believe that when the install cd first boots that one of a function buttons is used to pick resolution (this is different than 8.1 where the res of on the bottom of the screen) and a list/table of different res shows up that you can pick from. This feature is not obvious, but in the beta I had the same problem at first until I noticed this. Look for a way to choose the res (e.g. 1024x768, 800x600, etc...). By default I think it often goes to 1280x1024, which on my test machine was too high. I found the way to set it and then all was well. Look for it when it 1st boots. HTH, Curtis. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+mDzk7WVLiDrqeksRAiX8AJ4/KJzWejHBYFZzXQ0F4pDR49FmDwCbBcJX MqGxVke2QxJ/UYHfeIFuOUQ= =CZ83 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Saturday 12 April 2003 5:20 pm, Curtis Rey wrote:
I believe that when the install cd first boots that one of a function buttons is used to pick resolution (this is different than 8.1 where the res of on the bottom of the screen) and a list/table of different res shows up that you can pick from. This feature is not obvious, but in the beta I had the same problem at first until I noticed this.
Look for a way to choose the res (e.g. 1024x768, 800x600, etc...). By default I think it often goes to 1280x1024, which on my test machine was too high. I found the way to set it and then all was well. Look for it when it 1st boots.
HTH, Curtis.
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On Friday 11 April 2003 23:09 pm, Jerome Lyles wrote:
On Friday 11 April 2003 04:42, Vince Littler wrote:
Some longstanding bug related to my hardware [I forgot what] required that I prss shift while booting from CD - that still persists. And a window came up too big on install for 640 by 480 or whatever. <snip>
I have the same problem. The install windows are too large on my LCD monitor. So far I have to install using another monitor. Does anyone have a better idea?
Thanks Curtis, you might HTH, but I can only WTH! As I said in my original email, something about my hardware [Adaptec SCSI adapter?] causes the cd boot to choke, so there is a known workaround, since 7.2 or before, of holding down the shift key, while the cd boots. this takes you straight to a later screen. [SuSE take note - this hold down the shift key workaround, lasting from 7.2 to 8.2 NEEDS FIXING, or it might bite you in the bum about release 10.2, when somebody inadvertently takes out the workaround, not knowing what it is for and leaves the Adaptec 2940 people high and dry]. But I did just try the CD in another PC, and Curtis, you are right, the first screen allows you to set resolution with F2. regards Vince Littler
Well, it's here and it went in quite smoothly. The antialised fonts look great during installation and use, especially as it insisted on going 1600x1200 (need a microscope handy). Mozilla (1.2) didn't load the mail module which is the main reason for using it for me. After I added that it was fine. I tried Evolution (actually it puts it in anyway) but I still can't use Evo if it doesn't want to connect to our Corporate LDAP server for mail addresses. It still doesn't want to play so it's out. Mozilla talks to LDAP fine so it's in. Very much like the new NIS client setup module. It (intelligently) allows a NIS client to be set to broadcast WITHOUT having to set any NIS server IP addresses. I'd like to see the default for login manager NOT automatically add all the known users into the login screen. In a NIS environment this really slows the machine down and it's only eye-candy. DHCP client still returns "failed" even though it grabbed a lease and our dynamic DNS allocated it a record. Xinetd is installed by default (took that out) instead of inetd (put that back in). Same for Grub and Lilo. A default installation plus "all of KDE" took up 2.3GB. Lots to play with there .... Oh, and as someone mentioned xmms earlier - it's there and working. Verdict after 3 hours usage: A polished distribution which will go even further to move previously unconvined M$ users onto the main alternative. Damian
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From: "Damian Ohara"
Well, it's here and it went in quite smoothly.
The antialised fonts look great during installation and use, especially as it insisted on going 1600x1200 (need a microscope handy).
Mozilla (1.2) didn't load the mail module which is the main reason for using it for me. After I added that it was fine.
I tried Evolution (actually it puts it in anyway) but I still can't use Evo if it doesn't want to connect to our Corporate LDAP server for mail addresses. It still doesn't want to play so it's out. Mozilla talks to LDAP fine so it's in.
Very much like the new NIS client setup module. It (intelligently) allows a NIS client to be set to broadcast WITHOUT having to set any NIS server IP addresses. I'd like to see the default for login manager NOT automatically add all the known users into the login screen. In a NIS environment this really slows the machine down and it's only eye-candy.
DHCP client still returns "failed" even though it grabbed a lease and our dynamic DNS allocated it a record.
I experienced this myself. Is there a fix for this?
Xinetd is installed by default (took that out) instead of inetd (put that back in). Same for Grub and Lilo.
A default installation plus "all of KDE" took up 2.3GB. Lots to play with there ....
Oh, and as someone mentioned xmms earlier - it's there and working.
Verdict after 3 hours usage: A polished distribution which will go even further to move previously unconvined M$ users onto the main alternative.
Damian
Fully agree. As posted before, ACPI had to be turned off for all the hardware to be recognised correctly.
Very much like the new NIS client setup module. It (intelligently) allows a NIS client to be set to broadcast WITHOUT having to set any NIS server IP addresses. I'd like to see the default for login manager NOT automatically add all the known users into the login screen. In a NIS environment this really slows the machine down and it's only eye-candy.
Could this be the reason that when a new user logs in it takes longer to get up than if the same user re-logs in at the same terminal? I assume that when the user logs out then his directory is unmounted from the client too. Is this correct? How would I remove users from the login screen to test this? SuSE 8.1 with NIS and Autofs and around 50 users, all visible at login. Steve.
Steve, The automounter will unmount unused directories after the mounts timeout - usually about 15 minutes after the mount point was last used (can check if you need to know exactly). There's nothing in the logout scripts that unmount the user directory. The reduced login time for the second login of the same user is probably due to much of X-windows and KDE/Gnome already being available in memory. You can remove users from the login screen by using "Login Manager" in the Control Centre menus. Having a user displayed in the login menu doesn't mean that their home directory is mounted. Check /var/log/messages after a successful login to see what order the NIS/Automounter stuff happens. Damian fsanta wrote:
Very much like the new NIS client setup module. It (intelligently) allows a NIS client to be set to broadcast WITHOUT having to set any NIS server IP addresses. I'd like to see the default for login manager NOT automatically add all the known users into the login screen. In a NIS environment this really slows the machine down and it's only eye-candy.
Could this be the reason that when a new user logs in it takes longer to get up than if the same user re-logs in at the same terminal? I assume that when the user logs out then his directory is unmounted from the client too. Is this correct? How would I remove users from the login screen to test this?
SuSE 8.1 with NIS and Autofs and around 50 users, all visible at login. Steve.
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