On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 01:53:26PM -0800, Gordon Pritchard wrote:

On Sat, 2002-02-02 at 13:24, Robert C. Paulsen Jr. wrote:

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(reason: 550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied)

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I can "fix" the problem by removing the SENDMAIL_SMARTHOST from my sendmail.rc.config

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I don't remember changing anything to cause this "Relaying denied" to start happening, but perhaps I messed something up before I left.

Your ISP has made some changes, ostensibly to crack down on spam. You could ask them for some details, but many ISP's have clueless people who answer the phones... :-(

Yes, you are probably right. I thought the error message was coming from my sendmail, but it is probably coming from the ISP (road runner).

For your reference, in case it helps, here are a couple of lines from my sendmail.cf (in this case, I'm a standalone user at home. If my wife sends e-mail, and doesn't want to be masqueraded as me, she'll use KMail or Netscape, with their own built-in SMTP stuff, which bypasses what I'me setting here in sendmail):

# "Smart" relay host (may be null) DS

This is exactly what I get by removing SENDMAIL_SMARTHOST and is the "solution" I wasn't quite happy with (some email services refuses my messages). Another change I get in sendmail.cf is the following: # persistent host status directory O HostStatusDirectory=.hoststat Without a smart host, the above is commented out.

# who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading) (see also $=M) DMgordon.pritchard@shaw.ca

I though this was only supposed to contain a domain name, not a full email address. I tried it both ways and it didn't make any difference. Seems that sendmail ignores everything but the domain name.

My ISP is happy, and I don't get recipient-bounces (because my outgoing From: *does* resolve, in case they do a name-lookup).

In my case, the mail was rejected even though the From: was set to a "real" name. Other things in the header identified my internal network name. I had to use SMARTHOST to make that pert of the header use a "real" name. -- ____________________________________________________________________ Robert Paulsen paulsen@texas.net

Tim Kynerd wrote:

While we're on the subject, how do any of you with similar setups handle a situation where you have *multiple* E-mail addresses, and want each outgoing reply to be From: the address that the E-mail replied to was sent To:?

I have kludged together a few things to deal with this, but I am not entirely happy with them; among other things, I've changed my pine settings to set the envelope sender to my "primary" E-mail address (i.e., it's always the same address, whereas I'd prefer for the envelope sender to match the From: in the header).

Mozilla Mail handles this quite nicely. it can not only handle multiple addresses, but can handle different SMTP servers as well. I check 3 addresses, and send with 3 different SMTP settings, though I only 'use' the one address as the reply to. To keep them separate, I added an initial (i.e NTM) to differentiate the accounts when I compose a message, which makes it go out the correct SMTP server (i.e this box and server at work, as well as ISPs). Try it out, it is pretty slick. YMMV. -- Joe & Sesil Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris Registered Linux user 231871

On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 03:54:02PM -0600, Oscar Arturo Ross Gurrola wrote:

Probably your SMARTHOST doesn't want you to relay mail through his/her server.

Are you just trying to send mail? or setting up a mail server?

If the former, just use a program like mutt, pine, Evolution or kmail to connect to your ISP's mail server and send your mail

I am using Mutt for most mail, but I also have a PHP script that sends mail to port 25 so I need to set up sendmail to handle it. It was working fine for months but just stopped working sometime during the past four days.

If the latter, you need to have a valid host name and MX record.

El Sáb 02 Feb 2002 15:24, escribiste:

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Suddenly I am getting all my email returned with the following error:

(reason: 550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied)

This just started happening after I had been away for 4 days without trying to send any email -- when I got back everything I sent got that error.

I can "fix" the problem by removing the SENDMAIL_SMARTHOST from my sendmail.rc.config, but this is not satisfactory since some people's email systems won't accept email sent from me unless I use a SMARTHOST (I think this is because I don't have a "real" hostname and IP address, causing my mail to get killed by some spam filters).

I don't remember changing anything to cause this "Relaying denied" to start happening, but perhaps I messed something up before I left.

Anyone have a clue for me?

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-- ____________________________________________________________________ Robert Paulsen paulsen@texas.net