[opensuse] Seeking Simple Image Editing Tool for Web Development
Hi, I need to create some textures for a Web interface in PNG (or GIF) form that include transparency. I've been driven crazy by GIMP, Krita and the other programs that appear in KDE -> Graphics -> Image Editing menu on my SuSE 10.0 installation. Is there some other package, possibly not one categorized under that section of the KDE menu, that I can use to quickly create a simple stipple pattern with transparency? Thanks. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Samstag, 19. Mai 2007, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
I need to create some textures for a Web interface in PNG (or GIF) form that include transparency. I've been driven crazy by GIMP, Krita and the other programs that appear in KDE -> Graphics -> Image Editing menu on my SuSE 10.0 installation.
Is there some other package, possibly not one categorized under that section of the KDE menu, that I can use to quickly create a simple stipple pattern with transparency?
Thanks.
Randall Schulz
Maybe you'd like to give this a try: http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=12 don't know, how good it is, but it's quite "photoshopy" :-) regards IL -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
I need to create some textures for a Web interface in PNG (or GIF) form that include transparency. I've been driven crazy by GIMP, Krita and the other programs that appear in KDE -> Graphics -> Image Editing menu on my SuSE 10.0 installation.
Is there some other package, possibly not one categorized under that section of the KDE menu, that I can use to quickly create a simple stipple pattern with transparency?
Have you tried Draw in OpenOffice? -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Try KDE Kolourpaint. It's part of "kdegraphics3-imaging" package. -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 19 May 2007 12:16, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
Try KDE Kolourpaint.
It's part of "kdegraphics3-imaging" package.
As I said, I tried everything in my KDE -> Graphics -> Image Editing menu, including KolourPaint. It's as crappy as the rest of them. I think I'm going to try GraphicsConverter on my Mac. It's a little limited, but not as mind-boggling counterintuitive as the open-source programs I've encountered since I set out to create a simple drag texture for a movable tool palette...
-- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov"
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On Saturday 19 May 2007, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Saturday 19 May 2007 12:16, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
Try KDE Kolourpaint.
It's part of "kdegraphics3-imaging" package.
As I said, I tried everything in my KDE -> Graphics -> Image Editing menu, including KolourPaint. It's as crappy as the rest of them.
I think I'm going to try GraphicsConverter on my Mac. It's a little limited, but not as mind-boggling counterintuitive as the open-source programs I've encountered since I set out to create a simple drag texture for a movable tool palette...
-- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov"
RRS
------------------- Have you given ImageMagick or GraphicsMagick a try? I know for some of the simple things you seem to want to do, either might work. I believe SuSE is using GraphicsMagick now which is a fork from Image. It also gives you many shell commands and actually needs to be started from the shell with the command "display". I've used both for quick resizing, enhancing and other things without having to play for a hour to figure things out. have fun, Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 19 May 2007 20:18, BandiPat wrote:
On Saturday 19 May 2007, Randall R Schulz wrote:
As I said, I tried everything in my KDE -> Graphics -> Image Editing menu, including KolourPaint. It's as crappy as the rest of them.
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Have you given ImageMagick or GraphicsMagick a try? I know for some of the simple things you seem to want to do, either might work. I believe SuSE is using GraphicsMagick now which is a fork from Image. It also gives you many shell commands and actually needs to be started from the shell with the command "display". I've used both for quick resizing, enhancing and other things without having to play for a hour to figure things out.
As far as I understand it, ImageMagick only manipulates existing images, it does not allow one to create new raster images. Am I wrong? Can I use it to create pseudo-3D textures? Something like the simulated 3D of the dimples in a scroll bar? I don't know about GraphicsMagick.
have fun, Lee
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 19 May 2007, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Saturday 19 May 2007 20:18, BandiPat wrote:
On Saturday 19 May 2007, Randall R Schulz wrote:
As I said, I tried everything in my KDE -> Graphics -> Image Editing menu, including KolourPaint. It's as crappy as the rest of them.
...
Have you given ImageMagick or GraphicsMagick a try? I know for some of the simple things you seem to want to do, either might work. I believe SuSE is using GraphicsMagick now which is a fork from Image. It also gives you many shell commands and actually needs to be started from the shell with the command "display". I've used both for quick resizing, enhancing and other things without having to play for a hour to figure things out.
As far as I understand it, ImageMagick only manipulates existing images, it does not allow one to create new raster images.
Am I wrong? Can I use it to create pseudo-3D textures? Something like the simulated 3D of the dimples in a scroll bar?
I don't know about GraphicsMagick.
have fun, Lee
Randall Schulz
============= That is true, I guess I misunderstood what you were wanting to do, as I thought manipulating images was your objective. Sounded like you had covered most all the KDE programs, Gimp, but not inkscape or OO draw? I like KolourPaint and Krita, KOffice, but I think you had tried both already? Happy hunting, Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 20 May 2007 07:45, BandiPat wrote:
On Saturday 19 May 2007, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Saturday 19 May 2007 20:18, BandiPat wrote:
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Have you given ImageMagick or GraphicsMagick a try? ...
As far as I understand it, ImageMagick only manipulates existing images, it does not allow one to create new raster images.
Am I wrong? Can I use it to create pseudo-3D textures? Something like the simulated 3D of the dimples in a scroll bar?
...
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That is true, I guess I misunderstood what you were wanting to do, as I thought manipulating images was your objective.
Not primarily. I need to create some simple Web UI graphics, including transparency, preferably in PNG format.
Sounded like you had covered most all the KDE programs, Gimp, but not inkscape or OO draw? I like KolourPaint and Krita, KOffice, but I think you had tried both already?
I find OOo tedious, as well. It seems all the stock "productivity" applications are really inferior in the open source realm. On the other hand, the big players (Office, CSn) are all going over the top in complexity, cost and over-bundling. I certainly don't plan to shell out several hundred dollars for any of them, except possibly for a used copy of Photoshop, which I keep an eye out for whenever I go to my friendly and much-beloved local used bookstore. That's where I get most of commercial software I use on my Mac and Windows (VMware) installations. I'm giving Inkscape a try. It seems decent and can do "bit-map" exports and captures, apparently, so it might fit the bill. And I'd like to know more about SVG—it seems like a good thing.
Happy hunting, Lee
Thanks. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hello, On Sat, 19 May 2007, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Try KDE Kolourpaint. It's part of "kdegraphics3-imaging" package. As I said, I tried everything in my KDE -> Graphics -> Image Editing
On Saturday 19 May 2007 12:16, Alexey Eremenko wrote: menu, including KolourPaint. It's as crappy as the rest of them.
ITYM "as *k*rappy as" ;) OTOH, I find GIMP quite usable. Have you found and looked at the Gimp User Guide yet? -dnh -- Q: What do you call it when you really *do* get different results every time you do the same thing? A: Windows -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 19 May 2007 12:11, James Knott wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
I need to create some textures for a Web interface in PNG (or GIF) form that include transparency. ...
...
Have you tried Draw in OpenOffice?
Isn't that a vector drawing program?
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Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Saturday 19 May 2007 12:11, James Knott wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
I need to create some textures for a Web interface in PNG (or GIF) form that include transparency. ...
...
Have you tried Draw in OpenOffice?
Isn't that a vector drawing program?
Yes, however it can import and export PNG etc. and it supports transparancy. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 09:58 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
I need to create some textures for a Web interface in PNG (or GIF) form that include transparency. I've been driven crazy by GIMP, Krita and the other programs that appear in KDE -> Graphics -> Image Editing menu on my SuSE 10.0 installation. Randall, I can't imagine all the tools in Gimp not being able to accomplish your task quite easily. Granted, it may not be the easiest application to dive into, especially if you lack pre-requisite of graphics experience.
For example, a color gradient fill, then clothify, then cut a transparency hole makes a cool frame for web images, and should be save-able directly as HTML if need be. I'd try presenting your question on the Gimp forum and get some assistance that way. You would probably spend as much time learning anything else anyway. Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 19 May 2007 15:09, Tom Patton wrote:
On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 09:58 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
I need to create some textures for a Web interface in PNG (or GIF) form that include transparency. ...
Randall, I can't imagine all the tools in Gimp not being able to accomplish your task quite easily. Granted, it may not be the easiest application to dive into, especially if you lack pre-requisite of graphics experience.
Hmm... Is it "easily" or "not ... the easiest ..."? GIMP was clearly designed by an evil genius trying to drive its users insane. I never had this kind of trouble using Photoshop...
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Maybe if I get myself intoxicated in just the right way, GIMP will become intuitively usable...
Tom in NM
RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
--- Randall R Schulz <rschulz@sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if I get myself intoxicated in just the right way, GIMP will become intuitively usable...
And if it doesn't, you won't care anymore. :) ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 19 May 2007 16:40, frank nelson wrote:
--- Randall R Schulz <rschulz@sonic.net> wrote:
Maybe if I get myself intoxicated in just the right way, GIMP will become intuitively usable...
And if it doesn't, you won't care anymore. :)
Possibly, but it's not necessarily the same kind of intoxicated... RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Randall R Schulz wrote:
GIMP was clearly designed by an evil genius trying to drive its users insane.
I never had this kind of trouble using Photoshop...
I don't know photoshop and that appears to be a distinct advantage when using GIMP. I have spent a couple of days with a document "Grokking the GIMP" and I consider that time well spent. To handle transparency you have to add an alpha channel to your picture. Regards, -- Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 19 May 2007 09:58, Randall R Schulz wrote:
I need to create some textures for a Web interface in PNG (or GIF) form that include transparency. ...
Is there some other package, ... that I can use to quickly create a simple stipple pattern with transparency?
I found a Wikipedia article that compares image editing software (<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_raster_graphics_editors>) and it mentions an open-source Java program called JDraw (<http://jdraw.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=6>). JDraw is intended to be used for the sort of task I have (creating small bitmaps for Web sites edited with simple drawing tools and pixel-by-pixel manipulation). JDraw has its own quirks and limitations, but it seems to be manageable. I still have to learn how best to create the kind of image I need (a translucent texture that suggests the draggability of a UI element). But I've got something now, which is better than nothing--where if you did not know the element could be dragged, you'd be unlikely to even try to reposition it. Thanks for the suggestions. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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