On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 16:48, Kevin Donnelly wrote:

I'm on stock SuSE 7.3, and I don't have such a check-box. Is it KDE-version dependent?

Kevin

...

What you need to look into is the "dead keys" setting. In the KDE Control Center (if you are using KDE, I'm assuming that you are), go to Peripherals -> Keyboard and ensure that "Disable keyboard Layouts" is not checked.

It probably is -- if you go to the SuSE LinuKS site, you should upgrade to the latest KDE packages. This site is at: http://www.suse.de/us/support/download/linuks/i386/ just follow the links from there for you distribution. Have some fun :) -Steven

A month or so ago, I asked a similar question, and this was the answer I received: On Saturday 24 November 2001 01:01, you wrote:

OK, here I am in Linux, and sure enough, all the WordStar commands that work almost anywhere in DOS and Windows do _not_ work here, to provide the pronunciation marks required by European languages. But there must be a way for the English-speaking writer to indicate these marks without setting his keyboard to write in the foreign language. Since the DOS commands don't work, can someone tell me how to produce, with least effort, the following marks, which I can post up on my wall and use as needed:

Hi, I'm sending this off-list because I wrote about this at least three times in the past year. But I saw that no one else answered your question, so let me try once again. Special characters can be typed using the so-called Compose key. This may be the windows key next to the right Alt key (7.2 and 7.3) or the right Control key (before 7.2). Just try it out. To type an ø, for example, press the Compose key, then type o/ or /o (or you can even type o and / simultaneously). Do not keep the 'Compose key' pressed down when typing o/ or /o. ------------------------------------------------------------ If you cannot find the Compose key, or you would like to use another key for it, run the command xev If you press the key that you want to use as the Compose key, one of the many things you see is the 'key code'. Suppose, for example, that the key code is 109. Then in ~/.Xmodmap add the line keycode 109 = Multi_key After restarting X your new Compose key should work. ------------------------------------------------------------ The two characters needed for a special character can be found in the file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/iso8859-1/Compose (in SuSE 7.1 anyway. If you cannot find it, do a locate Compose (mind the capital C)). So for these special characters type the Compose key (or 'Multi-key') followed by these two characters:

German: A-umlaut, upper and lower case

A" a" (remember, the order does not matter, so instead of a" you could type "a etc.).

O-umlaut, ditto

O" o"

U-umlaut, ditto

U" u"

ess-tset

ss

Spanish: Upside-down question mark

??

Upside-down exclamation point

!!

Forward accent a, e, i, o, u, upper and lower case

A' a' E' e' I' i' O' o' U' u'

n with ~ upper and lower case

N~ n~

Italian: a,e,i,o,u backward accent, upper and lower case

A` a` E` e` I` i` O` o` U` u`

the Lira symbol (Maybe same as Pound?)

cannot find the Lira symbol. Perhaps another character set than ISO 8859-1? Don't know if it's the same as the Pound.

British: The Pound symbol

L=

European: The Euro symbol (Yes my computer maybe can't, don't know)

Don't know enough about this one yet. It seems that you need ISO 8859-15 for this instead of ISO 8859-1. I've heard some rumours about the latest versions of KDE supporting it. I've got Wordperfect Office 2000 for Linux supporting it. StarOffice probably supports it.

Miscellaneous: the plus/minus symbol

You guessed it: +-

The greater than or equal symbol

>=

the less than or equal symbol

<=

the degree symbol (small circle above the line)

0^ (zero ^)

the left and right quotation marks that some Europeans use, (under DOS, ALT 174 and ALT 175)

Haven't found this one. Perhaps supported by software such as StarOffice and WP? Regards, SH At 12:56 01/03/2002 -0500, Steven Hatfield wrote:

On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 11:07, Robert Thyberg wrote:

...

In KMail under SuSE 7.3, I am using a standard 101-key keyboard set up with English (US) and US-ascii in the Kmail setup. Frequently I need to use diacritical marks (Swedish and German). In Win98 it is easy (ALT+---). I can change the Keyboard to Swedish or German using YAST and get the characters I want but that is not convienent.. Can anyone give me the proper keystrokes and/or procedure to do this?? Have checked Unicode and Evertype to no avail.

Regards, Bob

Bob, What you need to look into is the "dead keys" setting. In the KDE Control Center (if you are using KDE, I'm assuming that you are), go to Peripherals -> Keyboard and ensure that "Disable keyboard Layouts" is not checked. The scenario that I use is that "U.S. English" is my Primary Layout, but I also have "U.S. English w/ deadkeys" checked.

You will now notice a new icon in your KPanel Tray that resembles an itty bitty little flag with US emblazoned on it. If you left click on this icon, you'll see a noticable change in the background flag. When it is a standard US "Stars and Stripes" flag, your keyboard will act as normal... but when it is on the other type of flag, you're keyboard will act a little differently.

Here is the secret -- if you press the apostrophe "'" key once (with or without the shift key held down to get a double quote), you'll notice that nothing types. This is a "toggle" key - which toggles the accents on and off. Now just type a vowel - like an a, which becomes "á" and with the shift key held down, it becomes "ä". The standard e becomes "é" and with shift becomes "ë". So you are basically typing ' then a or " then a, depending on which accent you would like above the vowel. If you want an apostrophe or a double quote, just press the key twice. This works for all of the vowels, á, é, í, ó, ú and sometimes ý (ä, ë, ï, ö, ü and sometimes ÿ too! :-))

I like this system much better than the alt+numbers Window's system, because it's more logically thought out and much easier to remember, as pretty much everything in KDE is.

So there you have it -- Steve's somewhat complex guide to fun and Diacritical Marks / Vowel Accents.

Have a great day! -Steven

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On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 16:48, Kevin Donnelly wrote:

I'm on stock SuSE 7.3, and I don't have such a check-box. Is it KDE-version dependent?

Kevin

...

What you need to look into is the "dead keys" setting. In the KDE Control Center (if you are using KDE, I'm assuming that you are), go to Peripherals -> Keyboard and ensure that "Disable keyboard Layouts" is not checked.

It probably is -- if you go to the SuSE LinuKS site, you should upgrade to the latest KDE packages. This site is at: http://www.suse.de/us/support/download/linuks/i386/ just follow the links from there for you distribution. Have some fun :) -Steven

A month or so ago, I asked a similar question, and this was the answer I received: On Saturday 24 November 2001 01:01, you wrote:

OK, here I am in Linux, and sure enough, all the WordStar commands that work almost anywhere in DOS and Windows do _not_ work here, to provide the pronunciation marks required by European languages. But there must be a way for the English-speaking writer to indicate these marks without setting his keyboard to write in the foreign language. Since the DOS commands don't work, can someone tell me how to produce, with least effort, the following marks, which I can post up on my wall and use as needed:

Hi, I'm sending this off-list because I wrote about this at least three times in the past year. But I saw that no one else answered your question, so let me try once again. Special characters can be typed using the so-called Compose key. This may be the windows key next to the right Alt key (7.2 and 7.3) or the right Control key (before 7.2). Just try it out. To type an ø, for example, press the Compose key, then type o/ or /o (or you can even type o and / simultaneously). Do not keep the 'Compose key' pressed down when typing o/ or /o. ------------------------------------------------------------ If you cannot find the Compose key, or you would like to use another key for it, run the command xev If you press the key that you want to use as the Compose key, one of the many things you see is the 'key code'. Suppose, for example, that the key code is 109. Then in ~/.Xmodmap add the line keycode 109 = Multi_key After restarting X your new Compose key should work. ------------------------------------------------------------ The two characters needed for a special character can be found in the file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/iso8859-1/Compose (in SuSE 7.1 anyway. If you cannot find it, do a locate Compose (mind the capital C)). So for these special characters type the Compose key (or 'Multi-key') followed by these two characters:

German: A-umlaut, upper and lower case

A" a" (remember, the order does not matter, so instead of a" you could type "a etc.).

O-umlaut, ditto

O" o"

U-umlaut, ditto

U" u"

ess-tset

ss

Spanish: Upside-down question mark

??

Upside-down exclamation point

!!

Forward accent a, e, i, o, u, upper and lower case

A' a' E' e' I' i' O' o' U' u'

n with ~ upper and lower case

N~ n~

Italian: a,e,i,o,u backward accent, upper and lower case

A` a` E` e` I` i` O` o` U` u`

the Lira symbol (Maybe same as Pound?)

cannot find the Lira symbol. Perhaps another character set than ISO 8859-1? Don't know if it's the same as the Pound.

British: The Pound symbol

L=

European: The Euro symbol (Yes my computer maybe can't, don't know)

Don't know enough about this one yet. It seems that you need ISO 8859-15 for this instead of ISO 8859-1. I've heard some rumours about the latest versions of KDE supporting it. I've got Wordperfect Office 2000 for Linux supporting it. StarOffice probably supports it.

Miscellaneous: the plus/minus symbol

You guessed it: +-

The greater than or equal symbol

>=

the less than or equal symbol

<=

the degree symbol (small circle above the line)

0^ (zero ^)

the left and right quotation marks that some Europeans use, (under DOS, ALT 174 and ALT 175)

Haven't found this one. Perhaps supported by software such as StarOffice and WP? Regards, SH At 12:56 01/03/2002 -0500, Steven Hatfield wrote:

On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 11:07, Robert Thyberg wrote:

...

In KMail under SuSE 7.3, I am using a standard 101-key keyboard set up with English (US) and US-ascii in the Kmail setup. Frequently I need to use diacritical marks (Swedish and German). In Win98 it is easy (ALT+---). I can change the Keyboard to Swedish or German using YAST and get the characters I want but that is not convienent.. Can anyone give me the proper keystrokes and/or procedure to do this?? Have checked Unicode and Evertype to no avail.

Regards, Bob

Bob, What you need to look into is the "dead keys" setting. In the KDE Control Center (if you are using KDE, I'm assuming that you are), go to Peripherals -> Keyboard and ensure that "Disable keyboard Layouts" is not checked. The scenario that I use is that "U.S. English" is my Primary Layout, but I also have "U.S. English w/ deadkeys" checked.

You will now notice a new icon in your KPanel Tray that resembles an itty bitty little flag with US emblazoned on it. If you left click on this icon, you'll see a noticable change in the background flag. When it is a standard US "Stars and Stripes" flag, your keyboard will act as normal... but when it is on the other type of flag, you're keyboard will act a little differently.

Here is the secret -- if you press the apostrophe "'" key once (with or without the shift key held down to get a double quote), you'll notice that nothing types. This is a "toggle" key - which toggles the accents on and off. Now just type a vowel - like an a, which becomes "á" and with the shift key held down, it becomes "ä". The standard e becomes "é" and with shift becomes "ë". So you are basically typing ' then a or " then a, depending on which accent you would like above the vowel. If you want an apostrophe or a double quote, just press the key twice. This works for all of the vowels, á, é, í, ó, ú and sometimes ý (ä, ë, ï, ö, ü and sometimes ÿ too! :-))

I like this system much better than the alt+numbers Window's system, because it's more logically thought out and much easier to remember, as pretty much everything in KDE is.

So there you have it -- Steve's somewhat complex guide to fun and Diacritical Marks / Vowel Accents.

Have a great day! -Steven

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