Re: [SLE] Windoze envionment on Linux?
what is the difference between the codeweaver program and wine. I understand that code weaver uses wine, so is the difference: a) 39.95 b) 3 months of install only support ? Secondly, they seem to be very vague regarding which windows programs run under they product. There ad chart says that their 'supported programs' run under their product. When you go to the 'brose the list of supported programs, their is a field in the chart labeled 'medal'. Is this another bill gates word invention? Under 'medal' most of the entries are "untested". This is a commercial product? or, is 'untested' a caveat saying that they don't know if if works (like the tobacco executives who are excused from the room when the discussion turns to cancer, etc., for deniability). No reference that I could find to DOS applications. rsvp, John Sowden American Sentry Systems. Inc. 1221 Andersen Drive San Rafael, CA 94901 U.L. Listed Central Station Alarm Service Serving the San Francisco Bay Area Since 1967 mail@americansentry.net http://www.americansentry.net
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:41:15 -0700, you wrote:
what is the difference between the codeweaver program and wine. I understand that code weaver uses wine, so is the difference: a) 39.95 b) 3 months of install only support ?
Secondly, they seem to be very vague regarding which windows programs run under they product. There ad chart says that their 'supported programs' run under their product. When you go to the 'brose the list of supported programs, their is a field in the chart labeled 'medal'. Is this another bill gates word invention? Under 'medal' most of the entries are "untested". This is a commercial product? or, is 'untested' a caveat saying that they don't know if if works (like the tobacco executives who are excused from the room when the discussion turns to cancer, etc., for deniability). No reference that I could find to DOS applications.
1) Crossover office is Wine with an install facility and a considerably more end-user friendly front. There's also the support, which isn't install-only. 2) Check your browser - sounds like it's not rendering pages properly. The lists of guaranteed to run properly, not guaranteed to run properly but known to mostly run, etc. programs are quite clear. 3) Neither wine nor crossover has anything to do with DOS apps - they're windows environments. You want DOSBOX. Mike- -- If you're not confused, you're not trying hard enough. -- Please note - Due to the intense volume of spam, we have installed site-wide spam filters at catherders.com. If email from you bounces, try non-HTML, non-encoded, non-attachments,
John Sowden wrote:
what is the difference between the codeweaver program and wine. I understand that code weaver uses wine, so is the difference: a) 39.95 b) 3 months of install only support ?
Well for starters COO has an installation and configuration program that makes it *very* easy to install/uninstall many MS programs. Their program installer will simulate reboots when needed and create the file associations for both Gnome and KDE and create the menu entries for both as well. It is possible to do this with the open source version of Wine, however COO has proved itself (IMO) to be more stable for running MS Office and this was my main use for it. Most users will find the convenience and stability of COO worth the price.
Secondly, they seem to be very vague regarding which windows programs run under they product. There ad chart says that their 'supported programs' run under their product. When you go to the 'brose the list of supported programs, their is a field in the chart labeled 'medal'. Is this another bill gates word invention? Under 'medal' most of the entries are "untested". This is a commercial product? or, is 'untested' a caveat saying that they don't know if if works (like the tobacco executives who are excused from the room when the discussion turns to cancer, etc., for deniability). No reference that I could find to DOS applications.
Untested means it has not been tested...so they don't know if it works. Bringing up tobacco executives and Bill Gates seems more like examples of someone *not* telling you it was untested/unknown. I also find the use of the term "commercial" being used as a test of a programs quality to be a odd on a Linux list. :-) That being said, I personally rarely use the product any more. I just don't have the need. If, however, you have a need to run MS Office under Linux and want to do so easily, you should find the program quite stable and worth the price.
rsvp,
John Sowden American Sentry Systems. Inc. 1221 Andersen Drive San Rafael, CA 94901
U.L. Listed Central Station Alarm Service Serving the San Francisco Bay Area Since 1967
mail@americansentry.net http://www.americansentry.net
HTH, Louis
Thanks for the intuitive response. Sounds like it is worth the $40. My application is a database manager. I have found OpenOffice to fill my spreadsheet needs well, and word processing needs for my computer only. I still have not found a gui that gives me the office control as running wordstar under dos. Files are left where they belong, without the user having to know where to put them, and more. Re: the 'commercial' term, I apologize if I offended your sense of software pioneership, as this is what Linux is to me. What I was referring to is this: If the company is selling a product, gaining revenue, they could use that revenue to pay staff to test their product as it is being represented to the world (run Windows brand programs). We are not talking about volunteers who work on the code outside of their 'day job', where these lapses are understood. The actual 'quality' of the program is not at issue. I have been writing code since 1977, some better than the commercial counterparts of the day, and most not. john On Thursday 02 September 2004 17:38, Louis Richards wrote:
John Sowden wrote:
what is the difference between the codeweaver program and wine. I understand that code weaver uses wine, so is the difference: a) 39.95 b) 3 months of install only support ?
Well for starters COO has an installation and configuration program that makes it *very* easy to install/uninstall many MS programs. Their program installer will simulate reboots when needed and create the file associations for both Gnome and KDE and create the menu entries for both as well. It is possible to do this with the open source version of Wine, however COO has proved itself (IMO) to be more stable for running MS Office and this was my main use for it. Most users will find the convenience and stability of COO worth the price.
Secondly, they seem to be very vague regarding which windows programs run under they product. There ad chart says that their 'supported programs' run under their product. When you go to the 'brose the list of supported programs, their is a field in the chart labeled 'medal'. Is this another bill gates word invention? Under 'medal' most of the entries are "untested". This is a commercial product? or, is 'untested' a caveat saying that they don't know if if works (like the tobacco executives who are excused from the room when the discussion turns to cancer, etc., for deniability). No reference that I could find to DOS applications.
Untested means it has not been tested...so they don't know if it works. Bringing up tobacco executives and Bill Gates seems more like examples of someone *not* telling you it was untested/unknown. I also find the use of the term "commercial" being used as a test of a programs quality to be a odd on a Linux list. :-)
That being said, I personally rarely use the product any more. I just don't have the need. If, however, you have a need to run MS Office under Linux and want to do so easily, you should find the program quite stable and worth the price.
rsvp,
John Sowden American Sentry Systems. Inc. 1221 Andersen Drive San Rafael, CA 94901
U.L. Listed Central Station Alarm Service Serving the San Francisco Bay Area Since 1967
mail@americansentry.net http://www.americansentry.net
HTH, Louis
-- John Sowden American Sentry Systems. Inc. 1221 Andersen Drive San Rafael, CA 94901 U.L. Listed Central Station Alarm Service Serving the San Francisco Bay Area Since 1967 mail@americansentry.net http://www.americansentry.net
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