[opensuse] Accessing Samsung S8
Hi, My daughter has a new smartphone, a Samsung S8. She want to transfer files to it, but it's not working. Plugging in the phone in her laptop and setting the phone's USB-properties to "file transfer" results in the phone being seen. Unfortunately, from there on it fails. No way to access the phone. Rather strange, on my own PC it works. Both are running Leap 42.2. I did a journlctl -f on my daughter's laptop. This is the result : jan 05 23:03:04 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 11 using xhci_hcd jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=04e8, idProduct=6860 jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: Product: SAMSUNG_Android jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: Manufacturer: SAMSUNG jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: SerialNumber: xxxx jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: cdc_acm 1-3:1.1: ttyACM0: USB ACM device jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <info> Creating modem with plugin 'Generic' and '1' ports jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <warn> (ttyACM0) could not open serial device (2) jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <info> Modem for device at '/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-3' successfully created jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <warn> Couldn't start initialization: Couldn't open ports during modem initialization: Couldn't open primary port: Could not open serial device ttyACM0: No such file or directory jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: USB disconnect, device number 11 jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: cdc_acm 1-3:1.1: failed to set dtr/rts jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <warn> couldn't initialize the modem: 'Modem is unusable, cannot fully initialize' jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <info> (tty/ttyACM0): released by modem /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-3 jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 12 using xhci_hcd jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=04e8, idProduct=6860 jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: Product: SAMSUNG_Android jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: Manufacturer: SAMSUNG jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: SerialNumber: xxxx jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: cdc_acm 1-3:1.1: ttyACM0: USB ACM device jan 05 23:03:45 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <info> Creating modem with plugin 'Generic' and '1' Any hints to solve this ? Googling was no help, but maybe I'm not giving the right question. I thought usb_modeswitch would to the trick, but on both laptops it's installed, and the conf-file in /etc is the same. Or should I look elsewhere ? It's a long time since I needed usb_modeswitch, I can't remember what I did when I needed it. TIA, Koenraad. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Koenraad Lelong <k.lelong@ace-electronics.be> [01-05-18 09:51]: [...]
My daughter has a new smartphone, a Samsung S8. She want to transfer files to it, but it's not working. Plugging in the phone in her laptop and setting the phone's USB-properties to "file transfer" results in the phone being seen. Unfortunately, from there on it fails. No way to access the phone.
Rather strange, on my own PC it works. Both are running Leap 42.2.
I tend to use bluetooth and/or kdeconnect for file transfer for my s7, neither of which requires wired connection. also free AirDroid works quite well. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 12:32 PM, Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> wrote:
* Koenraad Lelong <k.lelong@ace-electronics.be> [01-05-18 09:51]: [...]
My daughter has a new smartphone, a Samsung S8. She want to transfer files to it, but it's not working. Plugging in the phone in her laptop and setting the phone's USB-properties to "file transfer" results in the phone being seen. Unfortunately, from there on it fails. No way to access the phone.
Rather strange, on my own PC it works. Both are running Leap 42.2.
I tend to use bluetooth and/or kdeconnect for file transfer for my s7, neither of which requires wired connection.
also free AirDroid works quite well.
-- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
+1 To KDE Connect, the universal clipboard is a killer feature. File transfer is great to. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday, 5 January 2018 19:55:10 GMT Mike Henry wrote:
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 12:32 PM, Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> wrote:
* Koenraad Lelong <k.lelong@ace-electronics.be> [01-05-18 09:51]: [...]
My daughter has a new smartphone, a Samsung S8. She want to transfer files to it, but it's not working. Plugging in the phone in her laptop and setting the phone's USB-properties to "file transfer" results in the phone being seen. Unfortunately, from there on it fails. No way to access the phone.
Rather strange, on my own PC it works. Both are running Leap 42.2.
I tend to use bluetooth and/or kdeconnect for file transfer for my s7, neither of which requires wired connection.
also free AirDroid works quite well.
-- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode
+1 To KDE Connect, the universal clipboard is a killer feature. File transfer is great to. +1 kdeconnect - great tool for this job and a few others
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On 01/05/2018 06:50 AM, Koenraad Lelong wrote:
Hi,
My daughter has a new smartphone, a Samsung S8. She want to transfer files to it, but it's not working. Plugging in the phone in her laptop and setting the phone's USB-properties to "file transfer" results in the phone being seen. Unfortunately, from there on it fails. No way to access the phone.
Did your daughter use to own an iPhone? I ask, because cabling your android to any computer is virtually unheard of, but its an old Apple requirement. Even if you do cable it, it often ends up being an MTP connection only. Any of a half dozen file managers (most free from the app store) can allow this access via wifi, using ssh, sftp, samba, as well as Google drive, dropbox one drive Yandex, owncloud etc. Enough to access just about any computer local or remote. (I'd recommend Solid Explorer or - distant second -, ES File Explorer). Also +1 for Kdeconnect. The only down side to Kdeconnect is that the client side gets out of sync (more up to date) than the server side on Linux, because updates through the app store occur more frequently than Opensuse makes KDE updates available. And of course KDE Connect only works on Linux. Long story short: Forget about the that cable. Its just for charging. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2018-01-05 at 12:19 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
On 01/05/2018 06:50 AM, Koenraad Lelong wrote:
Hi,
My daughter has a new smartphone, a Samsung S8. She want to transfer files to it, but it's not working. Plugging in the phone in her laptop and setting the phone's USB-properties to "file transfer" results in the phone being seen. Unfortunately, from there on it fails. No way to access the phone.
Did your daughter use to own an iPhone? I ask, because cabling your android to any computer is virtually unheard of, but its an old Apple requirement. Even if you do cable it, it often ends up being an MTP connection only.
Why? I use the USB cable pretty often for transferring files and it simply works, with several Android devices of different brands. After all, WiFi is often very slow. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlpP6TgACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WPwACeMeDae1136WP0Gr2XEnmWleTu Z2kAn2tcGn/Mxc7Kf1gfOky61SOyx9gw =NwBV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/05/2018 01:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Why? I use the USB cable pretty often for transferring files and it simply works, with several Android devices of different brands. After all, WiFi is often very slow.
Your wifi is slow perhaps. I don't find this to be a problem. The phone only has 32 gig of storage. I won't be transferring much. Browsing it with KDE Connect seems like local storage. Fast. Finding the proper cord is a problem. I have three different varieties to deal with. Then there are some devices that are MTP ONLY, just when you wanted to transfer something else. Cables are old school, and not more reliable than bluetooth or wifi. Heck, all this time I thought I was set in my ways. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2018-01-05 at 14:16 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
On 01/05/2018 01:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Why? I use the USB cable pretty often for transferring files and it simply works, with several Android devices of different brands. After all, WiFi is often very slow.
Your wifi is slow perhaps.
No, it is the phone WiFi which is slower than the AP.
I don't find this to be a problem. The phone only has 32 gig of storage. I won't be transferring much.
I transfer movies to my tablet for watching in bed.
Browsing it with KDE Connect seems like local storage. Fast.
Finding the proper cord is a problem. I have three different varieties to deal with.
I have adequate cables hanging from a hook by the computer rack, properly labelled. And I keep one or two on the case of the laptop.
Then there are some devices that are MTP ONLY, just when you wanted to transfer something else.
My phone does MTP and works fine to transfer files. Even on the CLI: cer@Telcontar:~> l /run/user/1000/gvfs/mtp\:host\=%5Busb%3A007%2C008%5D/ total 0 dr-x------ 1 cer users 0 Jan 1 1970 ./ dr-x------ 3 cer users 0 Dec 21 13:04 ../ drwx------ 1 cer users 0 Jan 1 1970 Almacenamiento interno compartido/ cer@Telcontar:~> l /run/user/1000/gvfs/mtp\:host\=%5Busb%3A007%2C008%5D/Almacenamiento\ interno\ compartido/ total 209 drwx------ 1 cer users 0 Jan 1 1970 ./ dr-x------ 1 cer users 0 Jan 1 1970 ../ drwx------ 1 cer users 0 Oct 25 2016 .VRS/ drwx------ 1 cer users 0 Sep 5 08:25 .backups/ drwx------ 1 cer users 0 Dec 30 18:47 .estrongs/ drwx------ 1 cer users 0 Nov 28 2015 .org.ebookdroid/ - -rw------- 1 cer users 72 Jan 5 22:48 .userReturn drwx------ 1 cer users 0 Jan 1 2016 AccuWeather/ drwx------ 1 cer users 0 Jul 16 2015 Alarms/ drwx------ 1 cer users 0 Nov 28 2015 Android/ drwx------ 1 cer users 0 Nov 28 2015 DCIM/ ...
Cables are old school, and not more reliable than bluetooth or wifi. Heck, all this time I thought I was set in my ways.
I use both methods as the whim takes me :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlpQBpMACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UzswCfXOTnuJHwSmRIF8lrLUm/COUA wJYAnA/n2U3r/IRctXdkIX+lX90cMfFf =b4e+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2018-01-06 at 00:13 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Friday, 2018-01-05 at 14:16 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
Cables are old school, and not more reliable than bluetooth or wifi. Heck, all this time I thought I was set in my ways.
I use both methods as the whim takes me :-)
I was just checking files on my phone, before deciding to delete or move or keep. Via cable, they appear just as another directory (XFCE) which I can access via "mc". If it is a video, I use "xine [Alt][Enter]" to play them. If I access the same Android directory over FTP, the procedure fails and says "Can not execute commands on remote filesystem". However, MTP crashes some times. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlpQFRIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WHtQCcD0GHcEqL0dR4+ZaZliuai/m4 Iq4AnjqIC1aPUFYiTgDztgCyMKSPNIOe =qFTF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> [01-05-18 22:17]:
On 01/05/2018 01:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Why? I use the USB cable pretty often for transferring files and it simply works, with several Android devices of different brands. After all, WiFi is often very slow.
Your wifi is slow perhaps. I don't find this to be a problem. The phone only has 32 gig of storage. I won't be transferring much.
Browsing it with KDE Connect seems like local storage. Fast.
Finding the proper cord is a problem. I have three different varieties to deal with. Then there are some devices that are MTP ONLY, just when you wanted to transfer something else.
Cables are old school, and not more reliable than bluetooth or wifi. Heck, all this time I thought I was set in my ways.
not so much. I still use cable occasionally. kdeconnect has difficulty with some micro ssd cards, doesn't want to traverse the added storage. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/01/18 04:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Why? I use the USB cable pretty often for transferring files and it simply works, with several Android devices of different brands. After all, WiFi is often very slow.
I began using USB for everything, cameras, phones. They all worked; KDE pop-up and mass transfer protocols. The downside seemed to be that it sucked the battery in the camera or phone. I do not know why. Now, I use a card reader. That's easy enough with the cameras - almost - since they exclusively use the card for storage. With the phone I need to transfer the relevant items to the card; not a big deal. Yes in come cases I can set the application to store on the card, but not all. The 'almost' is that with the older Canon cameras they use CF cards rather than SD or microSD, and my card reader doest handle CF cards, so I have to tether-upload. Then recharge the battery. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/01/18 13:31, Anton Aylward wrote:
The 'almost' is that with the older Canon cameras they use CF cards rather than SD or microSD, and my card reader doest handle CF cards, so I have to tether-upload. Then recharge the battery.
And many modern phones either (a) don't come with card storage, or (b) the SD card is behind the SIM, so involves dis-assembling the phone to get at it! (And I really don't like mucking about with micro-SD cards, I've lost count of the number I've thrown in the bin because they've failed. On the other hand, I can count the number of full-sized cards I've binned on the fingers of no hands ... :-) Cheers, Wol -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-01-06 14:31, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 05/01/18 04:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Why? I use the USB cable pretty often for transferring files and it simply works, with several Android devices of different brands. After all, WiFi is often very slow.
I began using USB for everything, cameras, phones. They all worked; KDE pop-up and mass transfer protocols.
The downside seemed to be that it sucked the battery in the camera or phone. I do not know why.
I understand that only on those devices that can not charge via USB cable, so not on phones. It happens on my Nikon D3200: it powers the USB from the battery. It can not charge the battery from USB charger, meaning I can not charge it on the car.
Now, I use a card reader. That's easy enough with the cameras - almost - since they exclusively use the card for storage. With the phone I need to transfer the relevant items to the card; not a big deal. Yes in come cases I can set the application to store on the card, but not all.
My phone no longer sees the card. I think it is the connections. :-//
The 'almost' is that with the older Canon cameras they use CF cards rather than SD or microSD, and my card reader doest handle CF cards, so I have to tether-upload. Then recharge the battery.
Huh. I just looked: my card reader has a CF slot (but I don't have any). It is a Trascend TS-RDF8K for USB 3 and 2. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On 06/01/18 13:59, Carlos E. R. wrote:
My phone no longer sees the card. I think it is the connections. :-//
More likely the card, I suspect :-( Often I'd take it out of the phone, or camera, and chkdsk and friends would say "no problem". Except the card was unusable, as soon as you tried to use it the phone wouldn't recognise it or the camera would fall over, and even on Windows despite chkdsk saying it was okay the card would error repeatedly. Cheers, Wol -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2018-01-06 at 14:47 -0000, Wols Lists wrote:
On 06/01/18 13:59, Carlos E. R. wrote:
My phone no longer sees the card. I think it is the connections. :-//
More likely the card, I suspect :-(
No, it works fine on the computers. Formatted it with verification pass, too, no issues. I bought a new card, said needed to format it, failed, then, no see. Even after reboot. On the forum many many people say similar issue (Spanish): <https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/forums/v3_1/forumtopicpage/board-id/Moto-X-Play_es/page/8/thread-id/2> Some of them with expensive big new cards. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlpSKW8ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WHAgCdFZDxYKps9aEo6Q+JAcr5VV/a 6Q0An3dXFg2tatPR/hrpDY5mglSk42hB =0G6v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/06/2018 08:31 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 05/01/18 04:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Why? I use the USB cable pretty often for transferring files and it simply works, with several Android devices of different brands. After all, WiFi is often very slow. I began using USB for everything, cameras, phones. They all worked; KDE pop-up and mass transfer protocols.
I used to use a cable for tethering, as it charged as well as made the connection. However, I recently bought a Pixel 2 and I can't get it to tether via the cable. However, tethered devices now get an IPv6 address
The downside seemed to be that it sucked the battery in the camera or phone. I do not know why.
The USB cable should be charging the battery, not discharging it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2018-01-06 at 13:33 -0500, James Knott wrote:
On 01/06/2018 08:31 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 05/01/18 04:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Why? I use the USB cable pretty often for transferring files and it simply works, with several Android devices of different brands. After all, WiFi is often very slow. I began using USB for everything, cameras, phones. They all worked; KDE pop-up and mass transfer protocols.
I used to use a cable for tethering, as it charged as well as made the connection. However, I recently bought a Pixel 2 and I can't get it to tether via the cable. However, tethered devices now get an IPv6 address
I now tether via WiFi, yet I connect phone to laptop to keep charged.
The downside seemed to be that it sucked the battery in the camera or phone. I do not know why.
The USB cable should be charging the battery, not discharging it.
But mi camera can't be charged by usb cable. Downloading photos discharges battery in this camera. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlpSKu0ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W4XACgip6OznLcb/QVH3n/QpO+KaHr crYAn2qDmbD2AT/t9YMkLtpZ6vSddP3h =ZHS/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op zondag 7 januari 2018 15:13:01 CET schreef Carlos E. R.:
On Saturday, 2018-01-06 at 13:33 -0500, James Knott wrote:
On 01/06/2018 08:31 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 05/01/18 04:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Why? I use the USB cable pretty often for transferring files and it simply works, with several Android devices of different brands. After all, WiFi is often very slow.
I began using USB for everything, cameras, phones. They all worked; KDE pop-up and mass transfer protocols.
I used to use a cable for tethering, as it charged as well as made the connection. However, I recently bought a Pixel 2 and I can't get it to tether via the cable. However, tethered devices now get an IPv6 address
I now tether via WiFi, yet I connect phone to laptop to keep charged.
The downside seemed to be that it sucked the battery in the camera or phone. I do not know why.
The USB cable should be charging the battery, not discharging it.
But mi camera can't be charged by usb cable. Downloading photos discharges battery in this camera.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Please, Carlos, take this to off-topic. This is not about Accessing, not about Samsung S8 and is only blurring the thread. -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-01-07 15:18, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op zondag 7 januari 2018 15:13:01 CET schreef Carlos E. R.:
On Saturday, 2018-01-06 at 13:33 -0500, James Knott wrote:
On 01/06/2018 08:31 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 05/01/18 04:08 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Why? I use the USB cable pretty often for transferring files and it simply works, with several Android devices of different brands. After all, WiFi is often very slow.
I began using USB for everything, cameras, phones. They all worked; KDE pop-up and mass transfer protocols.
I used to use a cable for tethering, as it charged as well as made the connection. However, I recently bought a Pixel 2 and I can't get it to tether via the cable. However, tethered devices now get an IPv6 address
I now tether via WiFi, yet I connect phone to laptop to keep charged.
The downside seemed to be that it sucked the battery in the camera or phone. I do not know why.
The USB cable should be charging the battery, not discharging it.
But mi camera can't be charged by usb cable. Downloading photos discharges battery in this camera.
Please, Carlos, take this to off-topic. This is not about Accessing, not about Samsung S8 and is only blurring the thread.
?? It is about using devices with openSUSE Linux. All of the above. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On 07/01/18 14:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The downside seemed to be that it sucked the battery in the camera or phone. I do not know why.
The USB cable should be charging the battery, not discharging it.
But mi camera can't be charged by usb cable. Downloading photos discharges battery in this camera.
And this is NORMAL. It's only pretty recently that the use of USB as the SOLE connector for phones has become common, and with that the use of USB for charging. An older phone has separate power and data connectors. Same for cameras. Of all the cameras I've seen/used, only ONE uses USB for charging, and that's a recent Sony. Most cameras I know of, 0.5A at 5V would take a month of Sundays to charge the battery ... Cheers, Wol -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
If you don't mind, I've set the reply-to to the offtopic mail list. On 2018-01-07 20:24, Wol's lists wrote:
On 07/01/18 14:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The downside seemed to be that it sucked the battery in the camera or phone. I do not know why.
The USB cable should be charging the battery, not discharging it.
But mi camera can't be charged by usb cable. Downloading photos discharges battery in this camera.
And this is NORMAL.
It's only pretty recently that the use of USB as the SOLE connector for phones has become common, and with that the use of USB for charging. An older phone has separate power and data connectors. Same for cameras. Of all the cameras I've seen/used, only ONE uses USB for charging, and that's a recent Sony.
My "old" compact, a Samsung, does charge via USB (but the cable is special). My new SLR Nikon, a D3200, doesn't.
Most cameras I know of, 0.5A at 5V would take a month of Sundays to charge the battery ...
I don't know how much my SLR draws. But even if takes days to charge, it would mean that it would not discharge, which is what happens now. It can take an hour to pull 32 gig of photos at usb2 speed. 480Mbits/s... lets say 40MB/s, so... 13.3 minutes? Can't be, it took much more last time. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On 05/01/18 20:19, John Andersen wrote:
Did your daughter use to own an iPhone? I ask, because cabling your android to any computer is virtually unheard of, but its an old Apple requirement. Even if you do cable it, it often ends up being an MTP connection only.
Why then have I always used a cable? And my attempts to use anything else have always been a bit of a disaster ...
Any of a half dozen file managers (most free from the app store) can allow this access via wifi, using ssh, sftp, samba, as well as Google drive, dropbox one drive Yandex, owncloud etc. Enough to access just about any computer local or remote.
Cloud storage :-( NO THANKS! I was shocked (and upset) to discover that Google had uploaded (and deleted from local storage!!!) all the photos on my phone! Oh - and it's pretty clear that when I downloaded them back from Google Photos, they had been modified!!! One thing I do NOT do with my photos is modify the originals!!! Solid Explorer sounded great ... until I took a look :-( What I want is easy file transfer - and having to do it all on a small touchscreen sounds like a nightmare. I like my connections to be bi-directional, and when downloading from my phone I always work with a big screen and a keyboard and mouse. Cheers, Wol -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On Fri, 2018-01-05 at 21:28 +0000, Wol's lists wrote:
On 05/01/18 20:19, John Andersen wrote:
Did your daughter use to own an iPhone? I ask, because cabling your android to any computer is virtually unheard of, but its an old Apple requirement. Even if you do cable it, it often ends up being an MTP connection only.
Why then have I always used a cable? And my attempts to use anything else have always been a bit of a disaster ...
Any of a half dozen file managers (most free from the app store) can allow this access via wifi, using ssh, sftp, samba, as well as Google drive, dropbox one drive Yandex, owncloud etc. Enough to access just about any computer local or remote.
Cloud storage :-( NO THANKS! I was shocked (and upset) to discover that Google had uploaded (and deleted from local storage!!!) all the photos on my phone! Oh - and it's pretty clear that when I downloaded them back from Google Photos, they had been modified!!! One thing I do NOT do with my photos is modify the originals!!!
Solid Explorer sounded great ... until I took a look :-( What I want is easy file transfer - and having to do it all on a small touchscreen sounds like a nightmare. I like my connections to be bi-directional, and when downloading from my phone I always work with a big screen and a keyboard and mouse.
Cheers, Wol
Nextcloud is pretty slick; you can set up their (free) app to automatically sync various folders from your phone to your server over wifi. I had it do that with my pictures and videos every night when I'd plug it in to charge. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEE7GM/Dul8WSWn72odQ1nEo4DFCIUFAlpP8ygACgkQQ1nEo4DF CIX+KAgAmKXecH91lt5B6DVV07l/enR6WjgmbW0052fmDeodfbLRE10UsPpAcFxZ gEloEhc/Bn4t7hpsLdE1I1bDv8pZTYIYx/wPqTg/6OPO2l8NEW29Cr8EzlmlOJtO WuqCiIx1/gK28D61BLKyUvAS+6AWZp4CmdDoyzGzuhQD8vCyxOGQDpqb9KFHFZ5T ehGGA2DdYTNA3PB7siJaEfon1VlN1fGPsEgA455OK5SEs2xTgsIutDce27u3C2GW DTqYtnTVMFacEDs6VqjJGcVHtzvs2no/uFztng96IZD+buXuoH36Im4kyKrItk4W y2FhN7oGIKPLJWkZwSRhf/CVjOFLAA== =5AZW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- N�����r��y隊Z)z{.�ﮞ˛���m�)z{.��+�: �{Zr�az�'z��j)h���Ǿ� ޮ�^�ˬz��
On 05/01/18 21:50, Christopher Myers wrote:
Nextcloud is pretty slick; you can set up their (free) app to automatically sync various folders from your phone to your server over wifi. I had it do that with my pictures and videos every night when I'd plug it in to charge.
That sounds a lot better ... Only snag at the moment is my server is running (rather outdated) gentoo, and I have no plans to upgrade it until my new system is up. (I can't really upgrade the old system because (a) replacing KDE4 is going to cause massive marital grief if I don't get the replacement fight first time, and (b) the hardware isn't reliable running gcc so the upgrade could take days :-) So I'll have to configure it on the new system and see how it goes :-) Cheers, Wol -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/05/2018 01:28 PM, Wol's lists wrote:
On 05/01/18 20:19, John Andersen wrote:
Did your daughter use to own an iPhone? I ask, because cabling your android to any computer is virtually unheard of, but its an old Apple requirement. Even if you do cable it, it often ends up being an MTP connection only.
Why then have I always used a cable? And my attempts to use anything else have always been a bit of a disaster ...
Any of a half dozen file managers (most free from the app store) can allow this access via wifi, using ssh, sftp, samba, as well as Google drive, dropbox one drive Yandex, owncloud etc. Enough to access just about any computer local or remote.
Cloud storage :-( NO THANKS! I was shocked (and upset) to discover that Google had uploaded (and deleted from local storage!!!) all the photos on my phone! Oh - and it's pretty clear that when I downloaded them back from Google Photos, they had been modified!!! One thing I do NOT do with my photos is modify the originals!!!
Nobody said you HAD to use cloud storage. Or were you just looking for a reason to rant? And to blame that on your failure to read the directions is a bit over the top don't you think?
Solid Explorer sounded great ... until I took a look :-( What I want is easy file transfer - and having to do it all on a small touchscreen sounds like a nightmare. I like my connections to be bi-directional, and when downloading from my phone I always work with a big screen and a keyboard and mouse.
First of all, this was addressed to Koenraad, and what YOU wanted was the farthest thing from my mind. Most people want to do this from the phone, because that is what they have in their hand most of the time when they want to move pictures or music. They don't want to get up, go to the computer, find their charge cord and cable in. Solid Explorer and ES Explorer (and others) offers FTP/sftp server for the phone side as well. I can't even -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/01/18 22:07, John Andersen wrote:
Cloud storage:-( NO THANKS! I was shocked (and upset) to discover that Google had uploaded (and deleted from local storage!!!) all the photos on my phone! Oh - and it's pretty clear that when I downloaded them back from Google Photos, they had been modified!!! One thing I do NOT do with my photos is modify the originals!!!
Nobody said you HAD to use cloud storage. Or were you just looking for a reason to rant? And to blame that on your failure to read the directions is a bit over the top don't you think?
As far as I was aware I *wasn't* using cloud storage! I'd stuck a micro-SD card in the phone, and tried to configure the camera app to use it. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING led me to believe the camera app would use the cloud instead of local storage. Oh - and where would I find such directions? It's rather noticeable that most modern electronic gizmos (a) come with almost no documentation, and (b) finding such documentation is usually a lot of work (that's if you succeed). Cheers, Wol -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/05/2018 02:15 PM, Wol's lists wrote:
I'd stuck a micro-SD card in the phone, and tried to configure the camera app to use it. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING led me to believe the camera app would use the cloud instead of local storage.
Do you have any random teenager around your house who could help you out with this? -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/01/18 22:20, John Andersen wrote:
On 01/05/2018 02:15 PM, Wol's lists wrote:
I'd stuck a micro-SD card in the phone, and tried to configure the camera app to use it. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING led me to believe the camera app would use the cloud instead of local storage.
Do you have any random teenager around your house who could help you out with this?
Only if they understand NewSpeak. I didn't realise Google had redefined the word "sync" to mean "mangle and delete". Cheers, Wol -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 05/01/2018 à 23:15, Wol's lists a écrit :
Oh - and where would I find such directions? It's rather noticeable that most modern electronic gizmos (a) come with almost no documentation, and (b) finding such documentation is usually a lot of work (that's if you succeed).
it's probably setup when you use your google account (nearly mandatory for android use) nextcloud is a very good product, but pretty hard to manage himself on server side. I buy some disk space on pro servers, it's pretty cheap for low use (like $20 a year for 5Gb), I also found a local structure that allows me to have 10Gb for €10 a year. For the price, I have file sharing, with instant photo upload from the phone, mail, notes, tasks, smsbackup, contacts and so on, see nextcoud web site for professional hosting. clients works on 42.3 and android (probably ios also but I don't know) jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2018-01-05 at 21:28 -0000, Wol's lists wrote:
Any of a half dozen file managers (most free from the app store) can allow this access via wifi, using ssh, sftp, samba, as well as Google drive, dropbox one drive Yandex, owncloud etc. Enough to access just about any computer local or remote.
Cloud storage :-( NO THANKS! I was shocked (and upset) to discover that Google had uploaded (and deleted from local storage!!!) all the photos on my phone! Oh - and it's pretty clear that when I downloaded them back from Google Photos, they had been modified!!! One thing I do NOT do with my photos is modify the originals!!!
Solid Explorer sounded great ... until I took a look :-( What I want is easy file transfer - and having to do it all on a small touchscreen sounds like a nightmare. I like my connections to be bi-directional, and when downloading from my phone I always work with a big screen and a keyboard and mouse.
I use "ES File Explorer" (which I dislike since it changed hands and now has very intrusive ads; however, it works). Swipe left edge to center. Network, Remote. This will set up an FTP server at your phone, to which you can connect from your LAN. It is very good. You simply connect to it from any local computer with any operating system (for example, 'mc' in Linux). By default there is no password, but you can create one. It is for LAN use, so it is safe as long as you know who is on your LAN. Traffic is not encrypted AFAIK (but WiFi is). I'm certain there are others apps that do this. I can do ssh transfer (initiated from the phone) with another tool, but I found it to be terribly slow (I do not know why). Not for big files. I prefer the cable anytime I can. However, I found that via FTP I can access some files that on the cable get denied permissions. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlpP/OQACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Wu9ACcD3spydTK3c/jW1Zf6BrNVH71 MpcAn3BuqhO+4WgcQOSjI/Mcoj4/SIUR =MELR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/05/2018 05:32 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I use "ES File Explorer" (which I dislike since it changed hands and now has very intrusive ads; however, it works).
It used to be good, but I deleted it as "crapware". -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2018-01-05 at 17:45 -0500, James Knott wrote:
On 01/05/2018 05:32 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I use "ES File Explorer" (which I dislike since it changed hands and now has very intrusive ads; however, it works).
It used to be good, but I deleted it as "crapware".
Alternatives? The thing is, it does the job same as before as long as you don't tap on a commercial by error. I also have "Ghost Commander". - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlpQB4wACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WaEQCgi8eUoK1/NRZZIanS+iPac+8l kpcAn0Zvoc4WJgQOgpsw5fODi2oYnFoS =I3aQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/05/2018 02:45 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 01/05/2018 05:32 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I use "ES File Explorer" (which I dislike since it changed hands and now has very intrusive ads; however, it works).
It used to be good, but I deleted it as "crapware".
Exactly. I had the paid version, and they horked it up badly. I've now switched to Solid Explorer. Yes I paid him the *two bucks* it costs to shut off advertising. Its way easier to use and understand. (I had also paid for the ad-free ES File Explorer.). You guys whining about ads: would it kill you to open your wallet for Pete sake? But for Linux access, I really do have to recommend KDE Connect. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/05/2018 11:28 PM, John Andersen wrote:
You guys whining about ads: would it kill you to open your wallet for Pete sake?
I have often bought the ad free version. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-01-06 05:28, John Andersen wrote:
On 01/05/2018 02:45 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 01/05/2018 05:32 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I use "ES File Explorer" (which I dislike since it changed hands and now has very intrusive ads; however, it works).
It used to be good, but I deleted it as "crapware".
Exactly. I had the paid version, and they horked it up badly.
I've now switched to Solid Explorer. Yes I paid him the *two bucks* it costs to shut off advertising. Its way easier to use and understand.
(I had also paid for the ad-free ES File Explorer.).
You guys whining about ads:
Not about ads. I whine about intrusive adds.
would it kill you to open your wallet for Pete sake?
I hesitate about that. It has to be good enough. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Am 06.01.2018 um 13:46 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2018-01-06 05:28, John Andersen wrote:
On 01/05/2018 02:45 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 01/05/2018 05:32 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I use "ES File Explorer" (which I dislike since it changed hands and now has very intrusive ads; however, it works).
It used to be good, but I deleted it as "crapware".
Exactly. I had the paid version, and they horked it up badly.
I've now switched to Solid Explorer. Yes I paid him the *two bucks* it costs to shut off advertising. Its way easier to use and understand.
(I had also paid for the ad-free ES File Explorer.).
You guys whining about ads:
Not about ads. I whine about intrusive adds.
would it kill you to open your wallet for Pete sake?
I hesitate about that. It has to be good enough.
It's OT bat well...: problem for me is that payments are only possible using a google payment account, which - for google being a company that does not deserve my trust - makes it impossible for me buying something. If there were other payment possibilities outside of googles total control, I'd have bought several things in the past... intrusive adds: there are apps that display pop-up ads even when the app is closed. This leads to immediate de-installation within a second, not matter how "good" the app is. Using part of the app's screen for non-blinking ads is ok for me. -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer http://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-01-06 14:24, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 06.01.2018 um 13:46 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2018-01-06 05:28, John Andersen wrote:
On 01/05/2018 02:45 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 01/05/2018 05:32 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I use "ES File Explorer" (which I dislike since it changed hands and now has very intrusive ads; however, it works).
It used to be good, but I deleted it as "crapware".
Exactly. I had the paid version, and they horked it up badly.
I've now switched to Solid Explorer. Yes I paid him the *two bucks* it costs to shut off advertising. Its way easier to use and understand.
(I had also paid for the ad-free ES File Explorer.).
You guys whining about ads:
Not about ads. I whine about intrusive adds.
would it kill you to open your wallet for Pete sake?
I hesitate about that. It has to be good enough.
It's OT bat well...: problem for me is that payments are only possible using a google payment account, which - for google being a company that does not deserve my trust - makes it impossible for me buying something. If there were other payment possibilities outside of googles total control, I'd have bought several things in the past...
Same issue here. Maybe paying through paypal :-?
intrusive adds: there are apps that display pop-up ads even when the app is closed. This leads to immediate de-installation within a second, not matter how "good" the app is. Using part of the app's screen for non-blinking ads is ok for me.
Indeed. I'm happy to use some tools that pop up adds politely. For instance, rain-alarm: it has a banner at the bottom, and some times warns that an add will pop up in three seconds. I take a polite look at it, then close it. But ES File Explorer puts commercials in the middle of the results from commands, so that one has to notice it is not a result but an add, and be careful not to tap on it. It makes reading the screens difficult. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On 01/06/2018 08:53 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
It's OT bat well...: problem for me is that payments are only possible using a google payment account, which - for google being a company that does not deserve my trust - makes it impossible for me buying something. If there were other payment possibilities outside of googles total control, I'd have bought several things in the past... Same issue here. Maybe paying through paypal :-?
Paypal is just one option of a few: https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2651410 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2018-01-06 at 13:38 -0500, James Knott wrote:
On 01/06/2018 08:53 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
It's OT bat well...: problem for me is that payments are only possible using a google payment account, which - for google being a company that does not deserve my trust - makes it impossible for me buying something. If there were other payment possibilities outside of googles total control, I'd have bought several things in the past... Same issue here. Maybe paying through paypal :-?
Paypal is just one option of a few: https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2651410
As long as I get redirected to Paypal own page to enter the password and accept or deny the payment, it is acceptable. Judging from your link (which to me comes in Spanish), the answer is perhaps no. I do not want Google to have the control. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlpSJCIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W18QCfUrPoRJg2ncU32aotxKBqMSw8 7V0An1nZqKuZ12NutWA1WAmNgDj5olcG =Jgki -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/07/2018 08:44 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Saturday, 2018-01-06 at 13:38 -0500, James Knott wrote:
It's OT bat well...: problem for me is that payments are only
On 01/06/2018 08:53 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote: possible
using a google payment account, which - for google being a company that does not deserve my trust - makes it impossible for me buying something. If there were other payment possibilities outside of googles total control, I'd have bought several things in the past... Same issue here. Maybe paying through paypal :-?
Paypal is just one option of a few: https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2651410
As long as I get redirected to Paypal own page to enter the password and accept or deny the payment, it is acceptable. Judging from your link (which to me comes in Spanish), the answer is perhaps no.
I do not want Google to have the control.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Another option is to charge back to your carrier. One of the purposes of Paypal is to keep your password etc., safe from others. All Google should get is the payment and nothing else. I doubt Paypal would set up a system where someone else can ask for your password and then make the transaction. That would be very insecure. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/01/18 13:24, Daniel Bauer wrote:
intrusive adds: there are apps that display pop-up ads even when the app is closed. This leads to immediate de-installation within a second, not matter how "good" the app is. Using part of the app's screen for non-blinking ads is ok for me.
Problem is, as far as I can tell, the google store has a habit of running apps after they've updated or something. Is it the square "button"? I regularly find that tells me a bunch of apps are running that I don't ever remember using! wtf? I don't want them using my battery especially as I tend to leave the phone on stand-by for a long time! Doesn't seem TOO bad, but yet again it's technology companies thinking they own your device, and messing you over in the process :-( Cheers, Wol -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-01-06 14:54, Wols Lists wrote:
On 06/01/18 13:24, Daniel Bauer wrote:
intrusive adds: there are apps that display pop-up ads even when the app is closed. This leads to immediate de-installation within a second, not matter how "good" the app is. Using part of the app's screen for non-blinking ads is ok for me.
Problem is, as far as I can tell, the google store has a habit of running apps after they've updated or something. Is it the square "button"? I regularly find that tells me a bunch of apps are running that I don't ever remember using!
wtf? I don't want them using my battery especially as I tend to leave the phone on stand-by for a long time! Doesn't seem TOO bad, but yet again it's technology companies thinking they own your device, and messing you over in the process :-(
My Asus tablet has an app that impedes apps you choose not to start automatically. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On January 6, 2018 6:02:53 AM PST, "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 2018-01-06 14:54, Wols Lists wrote:
On 06/01/18 13:24, Daniel Bauer wrote:
intrusive adds: there are apps that display pop-up ads even when the
app
is closed. This leads to immediate de-installation within a second, not matter how "good" the app is. Using part of the app's screen for non-blinking ads is ok for me.
Problem is, as far as I can tell, the google store has a habit of running apps after they've updated or something. Is it the square "button"? I regularly find that tells me a bunch of apps are running that I don't ever remember using!
wtf? I don't want them using my battery especially as I tend to leave the phone on stand-by for a long time! Doesn't seem TOO bad, but yet again it's technology companies thinking they own your device, and messing you over in the process :-(
My Asus tablet has an app that impedes apps you choose not to start automatically.
Such task killers often consume even more battery. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2018-01-06 at 08:13 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
On January 6, 2018 6:02:53 AM PST, "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
On 2018-01-06 14:54, Wols Lists wrote:
On 06/01/18 13:24, Daniel Bauer wrote:
...
wtf? I don't want them using my battery especially as I tend to leave the phone on stand-by for a long time! Doesn't seem TOO bad, but yet again it's technology companies thinking they own your device, and messing you over in the process :-(
My Asus tablet has an app that impedes apps you choose not to start automatically.
Such task killers often consume even more battery.
Not in this case. It is an specific tool by Asus for Asus hardware, it comes integrated. I have never seen it in the list of apps that use a percent of the battery. I have another app from them that shows what apps are running lately and how much memory they use; and allows me to kill some. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlpSJSMACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XhhgCghkhImG/mH8E6mVVMPUBTkLiW 99kAn2vAxrDnupzK06S9FBeWK4mrXIQS =PqkP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [01-07-18 08:55]:
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On Saturday, 2018-01-06 at 08:13 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
On January 6, 2018 6:02:53 AM PST, "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
On 2018-01-06 14:54, Wols Lists wrote:
On 06/01/18 13:24, Daniel Bauer wrote:
...
wtf? I don't want them using my battery especially as I tend to leave the phone on stand-by for a long time! Doesn't seem TOO bad, but yet again it's technology companies thinking they own your device, and messing you over in the process :-(
My Asus tablet has an app that impedes apps you choose not to start automatically.
Such task killers often consume even more battery.
Not in this case. It is an specific tool by Asus for Asus hardware, it comes integrated. I have never seen it in the list of apps that use a percent of the battery.
I have another app from them that shows what apps are running lately and how much memory they use; and allows me to kill some.
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
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haven't we deviated enough from the list topic and the original thread to push this to off-topic? no reason for the dev's to visit this list, it has no purpose (any more). -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op zondag 7 januari 2018 15:00:24 CET schreef Patrick Shanahan:
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [01-07-18 08:55]:
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On Saturday, 2018-01-06 at 08:13 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
On January 6, 2018 6:02:53 AM PST, "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:
On 2018-01-06 14:54, Wols Lists wrote:
On 06/01/18 13:24, Daniel Bauer wrote: ...
wtf? I don't want them using my battery especially as I tend to leave the phone on stand-by for a long time! Doesn't seem TOO bad, but yet again it's technology companies thinking they own your device, and messing you over in the process :-(
My Asus tablet has an app that impedes apps you choose not to start automatically.
Such task killers often consume even more battery.
Not in this case. It is an specific tool by Asus for Asus hardware, it comes integrated. I have never seen it in the list of apps that use a percent of the battery.
I have another app from them that shows what apps are running lately and how much memory they use; and allows me to kill some.
- -- Cheers,
Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
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haven't we deviated enough from the list topic and the original thread to push this to off-topic?
no reason for the dev's to visit this list, it has no purpose (any more).
+1 from me. The OP has already let know that he's got a nice solution. -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/05/2018 06:50 AM, Koenraad Lelong wrote:
Hi,
My daughter has a new smartphone, a Samsung S8. She want to transfer files to it, but it's not working. Plugging in the phone in her laptop and setting the phone's USB-properties to "file transfer" results in the phone being seen. Unfortunately, from there on it fails. No way to access the phone.
Rather strange, on my own PC it works. Both are running Leap 42.2.
Use Paul Lutus' SSHelper on the device, connect wireless and use sshfs. https://arachnoid.com/android/SSHelper/ Slick as can be. -- -Gerry Makaro aka Fraser_Bell on the forums, IRC, and mail at openSUSE.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 06/01/2018 à 03:46, Fraser_Bell a écrit :
Use Paul Lutus' SSHelper on the device, connect wireless and use sshfs.
great, thanks. Do not seems to accept fish, but doesn't matter really as it do sftp jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 06.01.2018 um 09:55 schrieb jdd@dodin.org:
Le 06/01/2018 à 03:46, Fraser_Bell a écrit :
Use Paul Lutus' SSHelper on the device, connect wireless and use sshfs.
great, thanks. Do not seems to accept fish, but doesn't matter really as it do sftp
jdd
me too I use sshelper (despite the - in german listening ears - terrible name) particularly because I can use rsync with it. -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer http://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-01-06 03:46, Fraser_Bell wrote:
On 01/05/2018 06:50 AM, Koenraad Lelong wrote:
Hi,
My daughter has a new smartphone, a Samsung S8. She want to transfer files to it, but it's not working. Plugging in the phone in her laptop and setting the phone's USB-properties to "file transfer" results in the phone being seen. Unfortunately, from there on it fails. No way to access the phone.
Rather strange, on my own PC it works. Both are running Leap 42.2.
Use Paul Lutus' SSHelper on the device, connect wireless and use sshfs.
https://arachnoid.com/android/SSHelper/
Slick as can be.
cer@Telcontar:~> ssh -p 2222 192.168.1.132 The authenticity of host '[192.168.1.132]:2222 ([192.168.1.132]:2222)' can't be established. ECDSA key fingerprint is SHA256:+Yw8G..... Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes Warning: Permanently added '[192.168.1.132]:2222' (ECDSA) to the list of known hosts. SSHelper Version 10.3 Copyright 2017, P. Lutus Received disconnect from 192.168.1.132 port 2222:2: Too many authentication failures Connection to 192.168.1.132 closed by remote host. Connection to 192.168.1.132 closed. cer@Telcontar:~> On my servers, I increase: MaxAuthTries 10 But here this is impossible. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Op vrijdag 5 januari 2018 15:50:44 CET schreef Koenraad Lelong:
Hi,
My daughter has a new smartphone, a Samsung S8. She want to transfer files to it, but it's not working. Plugging in the phone in her laptop and setting the phone's USB-properties to "file transfer" results in the phone being seen. Unfortunately, from there on it fails. No way to access the phone.
Rather strange, on my own PC it works. Both are running Leap 42.2.
I did a journlctl -f on my daughter's laptop. This is the result :
jan 05 23:03:04 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 11 using xhci_hcd jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=04e8, idProduct=6860 jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: Product: SAMSUNG_Android jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: Manufacturer: SAMSUNG jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: SerialNumber: xxxx jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: cdc_acm 1-3:1.1: ttyACM0: USB ACM device jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <info> Creating modem with plugin 'Generic' and '1' ports jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <warn> (ttyACM0) could not open serial device (2) jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <info> Modem for device at '/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-3' successfully created jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <warn> Couldn't start initialization: Couldn't open ports during modem initialization: Couldn't open primary port: Could not open serial device ttyACM0: No such file or directory jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: USB disconnect, device number 11 jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: cdc_acm 1-3:1.1: failed to set dtr/rts jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <warn> couldn't initialize the modem: 'Modem is unusable, cannot fully initialize' jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <info> (tty/ttyACM0): released by modem /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-3 jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 12 using xhci_hcd jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=04e8, idProduct=6860 jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: Product: SAMSUNG_Android jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: Manufacturer: SAMSUNG jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: SerialNumber: xxxx jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: cdc_acm 1-3:1.1: ttyACM0: USB ACM device jan 05 23:03:45 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <info> Creating modem with plugin 'Generic' and '1'
Any hints to solve this ? Googling was no help, but maybe I'm not giving the right question. I thought usb_modeswitch would to the trick, but on both laptops it's installed, and the conf-file in /etc is the same. Or should I look elsewhere ? It's a long time since I needed usb_modeswitch, I can't remember what I did when I needed it.
TIA,
Koenraad.
Try kdeconnect. It works on other DE's as well. -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 06-01-18 om 13:07 schreef Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink:
Op vrijdag 5 januari 2018 15:50:44 CET schreef Koenraad Lelong:
Hi,
My daughter has a new smartphone, a Samsung S8. She want to transfer files to it, but it's not working. Plugging in the phone in her laptop and setting the phone's USB-properties to "file transfer" results in the phone being seen. Unfortunately, from there on it fails. No way to access the phone.
Rather strange, on my own PC it works. Both are running Leap 42.2.
I did a journlctl -f on my daughter's laptop. This is the result :
jan 05 23:03:04 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 11 using xhci_hcd jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=04e8, idProduct=6860 jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: Product: SAMSUNG_Android jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: Manufacturer: SAMSUNG jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: SerialNumber: xxxx jan 05 23:03:05 julie-hp2 kernel: cdc_acm 1-3:1.1: ttyACM0: USB ACM device jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <info> Creating modem with plugin 'Generic' and '1' ports jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <warn> (ttyACM0) could not open serial device (2) jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <info> Modem for device at '/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-3' successfully created jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <warn> Couldn't start initialization: Couldn't open ports during modem initialization: Couldn't open primary port: Could not open serial device ttyACM0: No such file or directory jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: USB disconnect, device number 11 jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: cdc_acm 1-3:1.1: failed to set dtr/rts jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <warn> couldn't initialize the modem: 'Modem is unusable, cannot fully initialize' jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <info> (tty/ttyACM0): released by modem /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-3 jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 12 using xhci_hcd jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=04e8, idProduct=6860 jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: Product: SAMSUNG_Android jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: Manufacturer: SAMSUNG jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: usb 1-3: SerialNumber: xxxx jan 05 23:03:26 julie-hp2 kernel: cdc_acm 1-3:1.1: ttyACM0: USB ACM device jan 05 23:03:45 julie-hp2 ModemManager[1173]: <info> Creating modem with plugin 'Generic' and '1'
Any hints to solve this ? Googling was no help, but maybe I'm not giving the right question. I thought usb_modeswitch would to the trick, but on both laptops it's installed, and the conf-file in /etc is the same. Or should I look elsewhere ? It's a long time since I needed usb_modeswitch, I can't remember what I did when I needed it.
TIA,
Koenraad.
Try kdeconnect. It works on other DE's as well.
Thanks all, KDEconnect works fine. Didn't know about it. Koenraad. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Koenraad Lelong ACE electronics NV Industrieterrein-2 nr 12 I.Z. Webbekom 2118 B-3290 Diest (Belgium) Tel: +32 (0)13 53 19 06 Fax: +32 (0)13 53 19 08 www.ace-electronics.be <http://www.ace-electronics.be> k.lelong@ace-electronics.be <mailto:k.lelong@ace-electronics.be> ISO9001:2008 Quality System Certified /ACE electronics NV/ - ISO9001:2008 certified by DNV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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