hello there, I just installed on my system a SCSI-2 Dat and have got a question What do people generally use to make backups. Tar could be easier (ao at least I am not familiar with it) and I could not find any graphical front end to it. any other suggestions ? I also found the following: I could be wrong but I believe that there are a couple of typos in the Suse 6.3 manual (page 275, section 11.8) regarding the mt utility. 1. every example state a -d parameter for the device while the man page states -f instead. 2. the example given to space the tape to the end of the recorded data reads as follows mt -d /dev/nst0 eof according 6to the man page (& my own experience) this WRITES an EOF mark at the current location on the tape. the man page documents two other means (the difference between those two is not clear to me) use either mt -f /dev/nst0 eom (goto end of recorded media) or mt -f /dev/nst0 eod (goto end of data) didier -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Visual Communications Group or its principal operating divisions (FPG, Telegraph Colour Library, Planet Earth Pictures, Colorific!, Pix, Giraudon, Bavaria Bildagentur, Definitive Stock, Space Frontiers). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this communication; and please notify the sender immediately. It should be noted that any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Didier Gasser-Morlay wrote:
hello there,
I just installed on my system a SCSI-2 Dat and have got a question
What do people generally use to make backups. Tar could be easier (ao at least I am not familiar with it) and I could not find any graphical front end to it. any other suggestions ?
I use Arkeia. Very good interface, easy to use (TM). Nadeem -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I'm trying to compile xmms-1.0.1 and it automatically picks up the gnome install. however, it looks like there are some problems in the gnome includes. Specifically, it's looking for some sort of orb. I thought it was in the pay section, but couldn't find it. Ideas? I haven't used gnome, but am going to look at it. I wil probably hack up the makefile so it doesn't do gnome, but I'd like to know what the problem is. make[2]: Entering directory `/mnt/src/xmms-1.0.1/gnomexmms' gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/local/gtk/include -I/usr/local/glib/lib/glib/include -I/usr/local/glib/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-all-loops -finline-functions -ffast-math -m486 -DDATA_DIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/xmms\" -DPLUGIN_DIR=\"/usr/X11R6/lib/xmms\" -DPLUGINSUBS=\"Output\",\"Input\",\"Effect\",\"General\",\"Visualization\" -I/opt/gnome/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/opt/gnome/lib/gnome-libs/include -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-all-loops -finline-functions -ffast-math -m486 -c gnomexmms.c In file included from /opt/gnome/include/applet-widget.h:12, from gnomexmms.c:23: /opt/gnome/include/libgnorba/gnorba.h:4: orb/orbit.h: No such file or directory /opt/gnome/include/libgnorba/gnorba.h:5: ORBitservices/CosNaming.h: No such file or directory In file included from /opt/gnome/include/libgnorba/gnorba.h:7, from /opt/gnome/include/applet-widget.h:12, from gnomexmms.c:23: /opt/gnome/include/libgnorba/gnome-factory.h:7: orb/orbit.h: No such file or directory In file included from /opt/gnome/include/applet-widget.h:14, from gnomexmms.c:23: /opt/gnome/include/gnome-panel.h:7: orb/orbit.h: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [gnomexmms.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/src/xmms-1.0.1/gnomexmms' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/src/xmms-1.0.1' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Ben -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
ORBit is the GNOME orb. HTH, Jeffrey Quoting Ben Taylor <bent@clark.net>:
I'm trying to compile xmms-1.0.1 and it automatically picks up the gnome install. however, it looks like there are some problems in the gnome includes. Specifically, it's looking for some sort of orb. I thought it was in the pay section, but couldn't find it.
Ideas? I haven't used gnome, but am going to look at it. I wil probably hack up the makefile so it doesn't do gnome, but I'd like to know what the problem is.
make[2]: Entering directory `/mnt/src/xmms-1.0.1/gnomexmms' gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/local/gtk/include -I/usr/local/glib/lib/glib/include -I/usr/local/glib/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-all-loops -finline-functions -ffast-math -m486 -DDATA_DIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/xmms\" -DPLUGIN_DIR=\"/usr/X11R6/lib/xmms\" -DPLUGINSUBS=\"Output\",\"Input\",\"Effect\",\"General\",\"Visualization\" -I/opt/gnome/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/opt/gnome/lib/gnome-libs/include -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-all-loops -finline-functions -ffast-math -m486 -c gnomexmms.c In file included from /opt/gnome/include/applet-widget.h:12, from gnomexmms.c:23: /opt/gnome/include/libgnorba/gnorba.h:4: orb/orbit.h: No such file or directory /opt/gnome/include/libgnorba/gnorba.h:5: ORBitservices/CosNaming.h: No such file or directory In file included from /opt/gnome/include/libgnorba/gnorba.h:7, from /opt/gnome/include/applet-widget.h:12, from gnomexmms.c:23: /opt/gnome/include/libgnorba/gnome-factory.h:7: orb/orbit.h: No such file or directory In file included from /opt/gnome/include/applet-widget.h:14, from gnomexmms.c:23: /opt/gnome/include/gnome-panel.h:7: orb/orbit.h: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [gnomexmms.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/src/xmms-1.0.1/gnomexmms' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/src/xmms-1.0.1' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
Ben
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On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Jeffrey L . Taylor wrote:
ORBit is the GNOME orb.
I have all the gnome packages installed and it's not here. Anyone have an idea where it's supposed to be? Ben
Quoting Ben Taylor <bent@clark.net>:
I'm trying to compile xmms-1.0.1 and it automatically picks up the gnome install. however, it looks like there are some problems in the gnome includes. Specifically, it's looking for some sort of orb. I thought it was in the pay section, but couldn't find it.
Ideas? I haven't used gnome, but am going to look at it. I wil probably hack up the makefile so it doesn't do gnome, but I'd like to know what the problem is.
make[2]: Entering directory `/mnt/src/xmms-1.0.1/gnomexmms' gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/local/gtk/include -I/usr/local/glib/lib/glib/include -I/usr/local/glib/include -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-all-loops -finline-functions -ffast-math -m486 -DDATA_DIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/xmms\" -DPLUGIN_DIR=\"/usr/X11R6/lib/xmms\" -DPLUGINSUBS=\"Output\",\"Input\",\"Effect\",\"General\",\"Visualization\" -I/opt/gnome/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/opt/gnome/lib/gnome-libs/include -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-all-loops -finline-functions -ffast-math -m486 -c gnomexmms.c In file included from /opt/gnome/include/applet-widget.h:12, from gnomexmms.c:23: /opt/gnome/include/libgnorba/gnorba.h:4: orb/orbit.h: No such file or directory /opt/gnome/include/libgnorba/gnorba.h:5: ORBitservices/CosNaming.h: No such file or directory In file included from /opt/gnome/include/libgnorba/gnorba.h:7, from /opt/gnome/include/applet-widget.h:12, from gnomexmms.c:23: /opt/gnome/include/libgnorba/gnome-factory.h:7: orb/orbit.h: No such file or directory In file included from /opt/gnome/include/applet-widget.h:14, from gnomexmms.c:23: /opt/gnome/include/gnome-panel.h:7: orb/orbit.h: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [gnomexmms.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/src/xmms-1.0.1/gnomexmms' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/src/xmms-1.0.1' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
Ben
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'dump' (command line) is also a nice program should be avaiable on any Unix system. There is also a commerical graphical program called BRU Backup. There is also KDAT (KDE GUI) which /sounds/ like it should be a backup program (haven't used it though). ----- Original Message ----- From: Nadeem Hasan <nhasan@usa.net> To: SuSE Linux List <suse-linux-e@suse.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 6:28 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] tape drive and backup
Didier Gasser-Morlay wrote:
hello there,
I just installed on my system a SCSI-2 Dat and have got a question
What do people generally use to make backups. Tar could be easier (ao at least I am not familiar with it) and I could not find any graphical front end to it. any other suggestions ?
I use Arkeia. Very good interface, easy to use (TM).
Nadeem
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I too use Arkeia - great for network backups as the browser lets you "check the box" to select files/dirs on remote machines. Also pretty fast - my DDS3 DAT drive, using old DDS1 tapes, runs at the maximum possible speed for the medium. Good tape library handling too. On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Nadeem Hasan wrote:
Didier Gasser-Morlay wrote:
hello there,
I just installed on my system a SCSI-2 Dat and have got a question
What do people generally use to make backups. Tar could be easier (ao at least I am not familiar with it) and I could not find any graphical front end to it. any other suggestions ?
I use Arkeia. Very good interface, easy to use (TM).
Nadeem
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On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, Didier Gasser-Morlay wrote:
hello there,
I just installed on my system a SCSI-2 Dat and have got a question
DAT's are cool :]
What do people generally use to make backups. Tar could be easier (ao at least I am not familiar with it) and I could not find any graphical front end to it. any other suggestions ?
tar, cpio, dump, Arkeia. My favorite is dump, but it can only be used on ext2 file systems (not on your Windows disk, too). tar is probably the most flexible, but can be archanly cumbersome. I understand that the people at SuSE like Arkeia, but I personally don't like it (too much fluff ;). I've played a bit with tar and my zip disk, and for the type of stuff that I do, it's not entirely bad. `tar -cIvf /dev/sda /home' makes a decent archive of /home on /dev/sda (my zip disk), but generates interesting errors ;). -- -=|JP|=- Jon Pennington | Atipa Linux Solutions -o) jpennington@atipa.com | Kansas City, MO /\\ 816-241-2641 x121 | http://www.atipa.com _\_V -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I use dump and a shell script for my Linux box, tar for the Win98 partition, and smbtar for the two Win95 partitions on my wife's networked PC. They aren't pretty (no GUI), run reliably from the command line (my Linux box is backed up with a cron job), and when I have had to restore a file, it was always there. I tried Arkeia. It looks like just what I needed. I never figured out its tape rotation strategy and it always was asking for more tapes than I had, though a full, uncompressed backup fills less than one tape. It did not support IDE tape drives directly. SCSI emulation on IDE drives was less than perfect (backups ran, but there were errors/warnings in syslog). When I needed to restore two files, it ran for half an hour and then announced that it couldn't restore them, no explanation or hints why or how to work around. It was out of here. Convenience and a pretty interface are nice if the product is functional. With SCSI drives, YMMV. Jeffrey Quoting Didier Gasser-Morlay <didierg@visualgroup.com>:
hello there,
I just installed on my system a SCSI-2 Dat and have got a question
What do people generally use to make backups. Tar could be easier (ao at least I am not familiar with it) and I could not find any graphical front end to it. any other suggestions ?
I also found the following: I could be wrong but I believe that there are a couple of typos in the Suse 6.3 manual (page 275, section 11.8) regarding the mt utility.
1. every example state a -d parameter for the device while the man page states -f instead. 2. the example given to space the tape to the end of the recorded data reads as follows mt -d /dev/nst0 eof according 6to the man page (& my own experience) this WRITES an EOF mark at the current location on the tape. the man page documents two other means (the difference between those two is not clear to me) use either mt -f /dev/nst0 eom (goto end of recorded media) or mt -f /dev/nst0 eod (goto end of data)
didier
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