-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 5 May 2003, andjoh@rydsbo.net wrote:

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I am looking to convert an XP home box to SuSE 8.2. However, I have a few problems, namely the fact that the HD is NTFS. So what do I need to do to this to make it useable under SuSE

Well, if you're looking to convert the machine, you don't have to do anything. Simply pop the SuSE installation CD in the drive, and it will turn the machine into a SuSE machine for you more or less automatically.

If, on the other hand, you want to keep XP around and make the machine a dual boot, you'll need to repartition it somehow. There are rumours that 8.2 has experimental support for NTFS resizing, but I haven't tried it. If you do, make sure you get full backups of all data you want to keep.

Then you may want to create a FAT32 partition, aside from shrinking the NTFS one and creating a couple of linux partitions, since FAT32 is about the only file system both XP and SuSE can handle completely.

THis is the problem as with all new Windows PC's it has a hidden partition anyway that contains the backup. Maybe a new HD as a second drive and dual boot will be the option. Sean - -- Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top posting frowned upon? Normal Email sean AT tcob1 DOT net GPG Key Id 7DA70294 ICQ: 679813 Jabber: tcobone@jabber.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Cygwin) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQE+trScHMnSWn2nApQRAofXAJ0UtboZUFshzmsvzSee/Somz4ExpwCfV9O2 PY7/308XlJjphEn+CrMaYX8= =Uagk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Hi there, I have XP and 8.2 on a dual boot, and all my NTFS partitions are readable by SuSE. ( C to I ).

You will need to have a spare partition to install SuSE on though at least.

Rob

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Hi Folks

I am looking to convert an XP home box to SuSE 8.2. However, I have a few problems, namely the fact that the HD is NTFS. So what do I need to do to this to make it useable under SuSE

Sean

-- Oh Lord it is so hard to be humble, when you are perfect in every way

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Or you could buy an extra hard drive if you have the resources and just dedicate the new drive to SuSE. -Jim-

On Monday 05 May 2003 21:03, Sean Rima wrote:

This, I have to admit sounds tempting as the wife is not a LInux person and she would kill me if she had to use Emacs to use Email :)

So would I, if you forced me to do it. Carrying on the analogy thread from the other day, gnus is the linux equivalent of chinese water torture I'm sure your wife would be very happy to use kmail or evolution though

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 5 May 2003, manxbiaggi@manx.net wrote:

Hi there, I have XP and 8.2 on a dual boot, and all my NTFS partitions are readable by SuSE. ( C to I ).

You will need to have a spare partition to install SuSE on though at least.

Umm maybe this sounds like the option to go, I need my SuSE as I am currently not gettinga fix :) Sean - -- Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top posting frowned upon? Normal Email sean AT tcob1 DOT net GPG Key Id 7DA70294 ICQ: 679813 Jabber: tcobone@jabber.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Cygwin) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQE+trUdHMnSWn2nApQRArjwAJ90gy+4M7BPVRuJzfAjXptO+KPijwCgqn4u MF0ZOx5tJciXdipPfqANs6c= =te5p -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 5 May 2003, dylan@dylan.me.uk wrote:

On Monday 05 May 2003 19:30, Sean Rima wrote:

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Hi Folks

I am looking to convert an XP home box to SuSE 8.2. However, I have a few problems, namely the fact that the HD is NTFS. So what do I need to do to this to make it useable under SuSE

That depends if you want to use XP afterwards or not. If you don't then just let the install program re-partition and reformat the drive for you. Otherwise you'll need something like Partition Magic to shrink the NTFS partition for you.

Personnaly no, but the wife prefers Windows so dual booting is beginning to sound a better option. Sean - -- Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top posting frowned upon? Normal Email sean AT tcob1 DOT net GPG Key Id 7DA70294 ICQ: 679813 Jabber: tcobone@jabber.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Cygwin) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQE+trW7HMnSWn2nApQRAiVaAJ43316x3qC8TW+NVf9GhH463RHMRwCggtSl mTRLrQzBDKRW6S4y+qC9SVs= =Sejl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 5 May 2003, penguin0601@earthlink.net wrote:

On Monday 05 May 2003 14:30, Sean Rima wrote:

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Hi Folks

I am looking to convert an XP home box to SuSE 8.2. However, I have a few problems, namely the fact that the HD is NTFS. So what do I need to do to this to make it useable under SuSE

Sean

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Sean, If you are going to replace XP with Linux, then you don't have to do anything, just install SuSE, it will reformat the drive in preparation for Linux. If you plan on dual booting, then your task will require a bit more work. You will need a program like Partition Magic ($80) to shrink the ntfs drive to make a partition to install Linux on then. I think SuSE may have something, check the manuals in your package as there are notes about this.

I would prefer to replace it, but after a quick discussion with the Wife, demonstrating Cygwin as a option to what Linux is linux, she said no as as She is the one who _must_ be obeyed, I may have to go the dual boot option.

Best suggestion, be rid of XP, Install SuSE 8.2 and have a lot of fun!

This is my personal preference. Sean - -- Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top posting frowned upon? Normal Email sean AT tcob1 DOT net GPG Key Id 7DA70294 ICQ: 679813 Jabber: tcobone@jabber.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Cygwin) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQE+trY8HMnSWn2nApQRAsN/AJ9SDW0s16ttFq3x1gHxWsZfNgd2wQCg0vVZ /Z6WbMohINHqQFPtYTFGoOc= =cOwB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 5 May 2003, penguin0601@earthlink.net wrote:

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Sean, If you are going to replace XP with Linux, then you don't have to do anything, just install SuSE, it will reformat the drive in preparation for Linux. If you plan on dual booting, then your task will require a bit more work. You will need a program like Partition Magic ($80) to shrink the ntfs drive to make a partition to install Linux on then. I think SuSE may have something, check the manuals in your package as there are notes about this.

I would prefer to replace it, but after a quick discussion with the Wife, demonstrating Cygwin as a option to what Linux is linux, she said no as as She is the one who _must_ be obeyed, I may have to go the dual boot option.

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Best suggestion, be rid of XP, Install SuSE 8.2 and have a lot of fun!

This is my personal preference.

Sean ****************** Sean, If you are not so far along with XP right now, you could reinstall that using FAT32 file system. The advantages of that would be two fold. First SuSE can automatically resize those for you to do a dual boot and second, you can read & write to those partitions! Problem solved, XP for the wife, until of course you convert her, and Linux for you!

You even might try setting up KDE just like XP to fool the wifey into using Linux without her know it! Be sure to get OpenOffice for Windows too, plus Mozilla for browser & mail. If she has he same things on both sides, she will soon learn the advantages of Linux! ;o)

This is of course another option, but then what do I do for outlook which she insists on using and her computer course which she must study at home also depends on access to Access and other MS tools Sean - -- Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top posting frowned upon? Normal Email sean AT tcob1 DOT net GPG Key Id 7DA70294 ICQ: 679813 Jabber: tcobone@jabber.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Cygwin) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQE+ts3jHMnSWn2nApQRAgInAJ93wgM88AxmQTLXPBtuwMk7bvPuBQCghz6j CHH34JK81tPI4AjyjbP6v8I= =THPE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 6 May 2003, penguin0601@earthlink.net wrote:

Well, you have Wine, which allows you to run Winders programs in Linux and of course KMail will not disappoint her in the least for a mailer or if she prefers a mailer like Eudora, Sylpheed will do nicely. If she needs the full look and feel of Outluck, then Evolution is her answer. OpenOffice does the .doc files, excel files, powerpoint files, etc without a hitch and I suspect you could find many others included with 8.2 to make her happy!

I have been trying for the last 3 years to get her to use Linux. She has so far refused and I fear that I am on a losing battle. I did install X/ KDE and everything under 7.0 but she still refused :) Sean - -- Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top posting frowned upon? Normal Email sean AT tcob1 DOT net GPG Key Id 7DA70294 ICQ: 679813 Jabber: tcobone@jabber.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Cygwin) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD4DBQE+t/f2HMnSWn2nApQRAox+AJIDkWVHdublgtC47jzX7ik00ibKAKCVwlxj xLIxp9ativsEw9vT10qVtg== =WiB4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 6 May 2003, ratcheson@earthlink.net wrote:

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I have been trying for the last 3 years to get her to use Linux. She has so far refused and I fear that I am on a losing battle. I did install X/ KDE and everything under 7.0 but she still refused :)

Sean, The human animal hates change in any form! MS gets around the problem by making the old stuff obsolete and unusable with the new thus forcing change on the user.

I solved my problem by installing linux, killing windows and going on down the road. Now my wife loves linux, hates windows except she really likes the game spider.

Weened her off the mouse the same way. Loves the trackball now.

Of course it will help to use the XP look on your Linux box and change the names of linux apps on the desktop to the names she is familiar with.

And if all that fails, I know divorce law!!

ROTFL, well I hope I don;t have to go down that road. I think I nay have sourced a cheap news load capacity HD that I can install a demo of SuSE with X/KDE and the various office like tools. Sean - -- Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top posting frowned upon? Normal Email sean AT tcob1 DOT net GPG Key Id 7DA70294 ICQ: 679813 Jabber: tcobone@jabber.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Cygwin) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQE+uZ7ZHMnSWn2nApQRAtxzAJ9EvCFbp5AkH7DOUeE3iVTi+sbOgwCeJ42B 5xzW1p2VorBK8xAJy9cvLBc= =E3AF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 6 May 2003, Ken Schneider wrote:

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This is of course another option, but then what do I do for outlook which she insists on using and her computer course which she must study at home also depends on access to Access and other MS tools

Sean

You could use evolution which is very close to using outlook, only better.

Anything is better than Outlook any version but she still fails to see that :) Sean - -- Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top posting frowned upon? Normal Email sean AT tcob1 DOT net GPG Key Id 7DA70294 ICQ: 679813 Jabber: tcobone@jabber.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Cygwin) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQE+t/hlHMnSWn2nApQRAlTkAKDRf5Eea0fa5Ogoqnz613Eifn4ttwCghEoe 4PlIOmVddczmm33XAewvsfw= =hV1u -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 5 May 2003, toganm@dinamizm.com wrote:

* Sean Rima; on 05 May, 2003 wrote:

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Hi Folks

I am looking to convert an XP home box to SuSE 8.2. However, I have a few problems, namely the fact that the HD is NTFS. So what do I need to do to this to make it useable under SuSE

http://susefaq.sf.net/winxp_dual.html and htp://susefaq.sf.net/xp_linux.html should give you soem hints ( though those articles are not for 8.2 specifically

Excellent this will give me a better idea. I have 8.1 on CDs and a DVD so maybe that is the best option as I tend to heavily change it around :) Sean - -- Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top posting frowned upon? Normal Email sean AT tcob1 DOT net GPG Key Id 7DA70294 ICQ: 679813 Jabber: tcobone@jabber.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Cygwin) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQE+ts9/HMnSWn2nApQRAtWXAJwO6HRJj6muVZLI1sAqBHEOfBpxXACgk1Np E4KXgY7eVoNcrLJfJBON7XA= =SJpT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----