SuSE PRO 7.3 installed and working on my DELL GX110 mini-tower computer. I have an EPSON STYLUS COLOR C60 connected through a USB cable. SuSE detects the printer correctly as well as the USB cable. I tried to configure the printer using either "lp" or"cups". My problem is that no matter the dpi configuration or the driver I choose the test image printed out is always only black/white. Actually when I configured the printer as "lp" the choice of some high-resolution drivers caused SuSe configuration interface to lose control of the printer that kept printing pages and pages of wierd characters and symbols. Not even turning it off and on again could reset it. I finally could kill the printing process by unplugging the USB cable and shutting down the computer. As my printer supports colors and can print colors when driven by Windows 2000 (I tested that) my question for you is HOW CAN I GET A COLOR PRINTOUT withe SuSE ???
On Sunday 30 December 2001 08:40, Maura Edelweiss wrote:
SuSE PRO 7.3 installed and working on my DELL GX110 mini-tower computer. I have an EPSON STYLUS COLOR C60 connected through a USB cable. SuSE detects the printer correctly as well as the USB cable. I tried to configure the printer using either "lp" or"cups". My problem is that no matter the dpi configuration or the driver I choose the test image printed out is always only black/white. Actually when I configured the printer as "lp" the choice of some high-resolution drivers caused SuSe configuration interface to lose control of the printer that kept printing pages and pages of wierd characters and symbols. Not even turning it off and on again could reset it. I finally could kill the printing process by unplugging the USB cable and shutting down the computer.
As my printer supports colors and can print colors when driven by Windows 2000 (I tested that) my question for you is HOW CAN I GET A COLOR PRINTOUT withe SuSE ???
I'm having an almost similar problem here... it's an Epson Stylus Color 640 and I got a colored testpage printed after I chose one of the correct high-resolution drivers... But since then, I haven't got a single drop of color out of that thing... I chose the correct printer (the one with the color driver) and even set that up as the standard device, it still only prints b/w (but it shows the higher resolution which that driver also provides)... Johannes -- Powered by SuSE 7.3 - KDE 2.2.1 - KMail 1.3.1 Version Info: Linux 2.4.10-4GB
Maura Edelweiss wrote:
SuSE PRO 7.3 installed and working on my DELL GX110 mini-tower computer. I have an EPSON STYLUS COLOR C60 connected through a USB cable. SuSE detects the printer correctly as well as the USB cable. I tried to configure the printer using either "lp" or"cups". My problem is that no matter the dpi configuration or the driver I choose the test image printed out is always only black/white. Actually when I configured the printer as "lp" the choice of some high-resolution drivers caused SuSe configuration interface to lose control of the printer that kept printing pages and pages of wierd characters and symbols. Not even turning it off and on again could reset it. I finally could kill the printing process by unplugging the USB cable and shutting down the computer.
As my printer supports colors and can print colors when driven by Windows 2000 (I tested that) my question for you is HOW CAN I GET A COLOR PRINTOUT withe SuSE ???
My advice would be to uninstall lprold or whatever non-cups printing package you may have. The may pages of gibberish you had sound typical of the old lp package. Then make sure you have Cups installed. I would then advise you to download a copy of turboprint (www.turboprint.be), and install it. It works with cups, and provides a driver for your printer, which is probably much superior to whatever generic driver cups has. You can test the colour option, but it will print with a logo. If you don't want the logo, buy the program, it's only $19. I know it's a commercial product, but if there is an area of Linux on the desktop that really needs improving, it's the printing system. Cups is definitely a step in the right direction, but until printer makers release Cups drivers for their printers, it will remain a choice between limited features with an open cups driver, of full features with a commercial driver. Before turboprint, I tried Easy print pro, but TP is definitely superior: I use an HP deskjet 940, and TP is the first driver that has given me the same quality in Linux as in Windows. Happy new year fx -- _______________________ Courtesy of SuSE Linux AIM fyxyf
On Sun, 2001-12-30 at 12:17, FX Fraipont wrote:
Maura Edelweiss wrote:
My advice would be to uninstall lprold or whatever non-cups printing package you may have. The may pages of gibberish you had sound typical of the old lp package.
Then make sure you have Cups installed. I would then advise you to download a copy of turboprint (www.turboprint.be), and install it. It works with cups, and provides a driver for your printer, which is probably much superior to whatever generic driver cups has. You can test the colour option, but it will print with a logo. If you don't want the logo, buy the program, it's only $19.
I know it's a commercial product, but if there is an area of Linux on the desktop that really needs improving, it's the printing system. Cups is definitely a step in the right direction, but until printer makers release Cups drivers for their printers, it will remain a choice between limited features with an open cups driver, of full features with a commercial driver.
Before turboprint, I tried Easy print pro, but TP is definitely superior: I use an HP deskjet 940, and TP is the first driver that has given me the same quality in Linux as in Windows.
Happy new year
fx
If you don't want to use TurboPint, you can use the GIMP-print plugin for CUPS. (http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/) I use CUPS with GIMP-print for my Epson Stylus 660 and it works fine. Epson even have their own GostScript driver. Have a look at http://www.epkowa.co.jp/english/linux_e/pips_e.html I see that the C60 is supported by this. -- Andre Truter Software Engineer Registered Linux user #185282 ICQ #40935899 <-------------------------------------------------> < The box said: Requires Windows 95 or better... > < So I installed Linux > <------------------------------------------------->
On Sun, 2001-12-30 at 04:17, FX Fraipont wrote:
My advice would be to uninstall lprold or whatever non-cups printing package you may have. The may pages of gibberish you had sound typical of the old lp package.
LPR variants have the same problem. DON'T BOTHER installing LPR. Stick with CUPS; we'll figure this out. -- -=|JP|=- Need a good geek? I'm unemployed! '01 B15 SE/PP | http://www.xanga.com/cowboydren/ | <//>< '95 SL2 Auto | cowboydren @ yahoo . com | _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Sorry, its www.turboprint.de and not .be.... I forgot to say it had been reviewed on Slashdot recently. fxf -- _______________________ Courtesy of SuSE Linux AIM fyxyf
Hi, The default set up for expat in 7.1 seems a little different from what is in Clark Cooper's tutorial on how to use it. For instance, his Makefile states that there should be four .o file to link, but I can't find them. Insteal there seem to be some lbxmlxxx.so files (eg libxmltok.so), which I suspect have the same functionality. Is there anyone out there who has used expat who could send me a makefile that I can look at to see what is where and how it should be linked, please? Thanks, alan
On Sunday, December 30, 2001, at 02:30 AM, FX Fraipont wrote:
Sorry, its www.turboprint.de and not .be.... I forgot to say it had been reviewed on Slashdot recently.
Yes, it was reviewed, and the general conclusion was that it is junk, and complicated to setup. If I remember correctly, the recommended solution was the gimp-print drivers. In many cases people get better quality using gimp-print then using Windows what-ever.
Gnu iBook 2 wrote:
On Sunday, December 30, 2001, at 02:30 AM, FX Fraipont wrote:
Sorry, its www.turboprint.de and not .be.... I forgot to say it had been reviewed on Slashdot recently.
Yes, it was reviewed, and the general conclusion was that it is junk, and complicated to setup. If I remember correctly, the recommended solution was the gimp-print drivers. In many cases people get better quality using gimp-print then using Windows what-ever.
Obviously,, you did not read the same reviews...... http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/12/23/1424236&mode=thread and http://www.linuxlookup.com/html/reviews/software/turboprint1.4-1.html Which says :
Installation ::
TurboPrint for Linux comes as a tarball containing 'install' and 'uninstall' shell scripts, installation instructions, and all the binary software. The installation goes over pretty easily, with little user interaction. It begins by asking the installation language (English or Deutsch), it then verifies the installation directories, and then it completes the installation. If you want to to change the default directories, you'll have to edit the configuration file 'system.cfg' manually.
A neat feature of the installation is that it lists all of the software packages that TurboPrint needs to work at its full potential. It lists what packages these are missing and what they are used for. In my case, I was missing 'fig2dev', used for FIG drawings. Not a problem.
and also <:: Free Edition vs. Full Version :: <You may be thinking, "Hey, this sounds cool, so why should I fork out <$20 for a license?" Well, to tell you the truth, you might not need to. <The 'Free Edition' (that is, free as in beer) allows you to use all <functions of TurboPrint, with some minor restrictions. These <restrictions include a logo on the top right corner or each page when <using High Quality printing, and with any other type of paper other <than 'Plain'. <Thus, if you are a private user and can live with these restrictions, <you might be able to get by with just using the free version. <Otherwise, you can fork over the modest $20 fee for a personal license <and use TurboPrint with no restrictions. <:: Summary :: <All that I can say is that TurboPrint lived up to it's claim. It was as <easy to setup and configure my printer under Linux as it would be under <Windows. By using existing Linux printer spoolers and ghostscript, <TurboPrint provides good compatibility with applications. The bonus of <printer maintenance functions makes TurboPrint an awesome tool. The <only downside is that the drivers included only support 3 brands of <printers. If you printer is supported, and you want to use it under <Linux, I definitely suggest you go out and download TurboPrint. < Not exactly junk....... I've been using Suse as my main OS for three years, and have used an Epson Stylus 600, HP Deskjets 500, 890c and 940c,and colours with the cups drivers have always been bad , like a very thick coat of ink when printing photographs on photo paper for example, which would take hours to dry. I downloaded turboprint after reading the Slashdor review, and was so pleased with the free version that I decided to fork out the 19 Euros to by it... fxf -- _______________________ Courtesy of SuSE Linux AIM fyxyf
On Sunday, December 30, 2001, at 09:17 AM, FX Fraipont wrote:
Gnu iBook 2 wrote:
On Sunday, December 30, 2001, at 02:30 AM, FX Fraipont wrote:
Sorry, its www.turboprint.de and not .be.... I forgot to say it had been reviewed on Slashdot recently.
Yes, it was reviewed, and the general conclusion was that it is junk, and complicated to setup. If I remember correctly, the recommended solution was the gimp-print drivers. In many cases people get better quality using gimp-print then using Windows what-ever.
Obviously,, you did not read the same reviews......
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/12/23/1424236&mode=thread
Yes, it's the same reviews. Here are some comments from the slashdot article:
Cons: limited printer support tarball install missing dependencies Pros (or why should I use this over standard KDE print config/RedHat printer filters/anything else): Perhaps your obscure WinPrinter is supported
Nice effort guys, but there's no real value here.
So what does it do that cups & gimp-print doesn't?
and
http://www.linuxlookup.com/html/reviews/software/turboprint1.4-1.html
Which says :
Installation ::
TurboPrint for Linux comes as a tarball containing 'install' and 'uninstall' shell scripts, installation instructions, and all the binary software.
<cut> Don't forget:
The default printing would be in black and white, and when I want to print in colour, I can just change the print command used by the program from 'lpr' to something like 'lpt -Ptp0'.
There are always various ways of doing things, I am glad turboprint worked for you, but it does not sound to me that it is easier and/or higher quality then cups & gimp-print.
Not exactly junk.......
I've been using Suse as my main OS for three years, and have used an Epson Stylus 600, HP Deskjets 500, 890c and 940c,and colours with the cups drivers have always been bad , like a very thick coat of ink when printing photographs on photo paper for example, which would take hours to dry.
I downloaded turboprint after reading the Slashdor review, and was so pleased with the free version that I decided to fork out the 19 Euros to by it...
fxf
Just joined the list so please forgive me if this has been gone over. I've purchased Suse 7.3 and am having problems with cut and paste. I read somwhere else that this was a known problem with 7.3. Could somebody please tell me the fix for this? Thank you Garret
On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 09:52:47AM -0800, Gnu iBook 2 wrote: -> There are always various ways of doing things, I am glad turboprint -> worked for you, but it does not sound to me that it is easier -> and/or higher quality then cups & gimp-print. I don't know how well gimp-print works with Epson, but it leaves much to be desired with my Canon S800. I've spent MONTHS and many man-hours downloading and compiling and installing and tweaking the settings on each gimp-print release, and the best I have ever been able to get out of it is "somewhat acceptable", which is piss-poor compared to the way the printer works under Windows with the Canon drivers. After reading this thread this morning, I went to the turboprint site, downloaded the demo version, had it working in about 1 minute, produced *clearly* superior print quality with much faster printing speed than cups + gimp-print, and so I used my credit card and ordered the keyfile immediately. Received the keyfile in a few minutes, and I'm really pleased I spent the 19 Euros on it. It works much better than cups + gimp-print, at least on the Canon S800. I'd say it looks just as good as the native Windows Canon driver. If you note in the gimp print 4.2 release notes, they say: "7) The Canon BJC-8200 and S800 do not produce optimum quality." That's an understatement. Michael -- "# chmod a+x /bin/laden" Michael Nelson San Francisco, CA
On Sunday 30 December 2001 10:14 am, Michael Nelson wrote:
On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 09:52:47AM -0800, Gnu iBook 2 wrote:
-> There are always various ways of doing things, I am glad turboprint -> worked for you, but it does not sound to me that it is easier -> and/or higher quality then cups & gimp-print.
I don't know how well gimp-print works with Epson, but it leaves much to be desired with my Canon S800.
I've spent MONTHS and many man-hours downloading and compiling and installing and tweaking the settings on each gimp-print release, and the best I have ever been able to get out of it is "somewhat acceptable", which is piss-poor compared to the way the printer works under Windows with the Canon drivers.
After reading this thread this morning, I went to the turboprint site, downloaded the demo version, had it working in about 1 minute, produced *clearly* superior print quality with much faster printing speed than cups + gimp-print, and so I used my credit card and ordered the keyfile immediately.
Received the keyfile in a few minutes, and I'm really pleased I spent the 19 Euros on it. It works much better than cups + gimp-print, at least on the Canon S800. I'd say it looks just as good as the native Windows Canon driver.
If you note in the gimp print 4.2 release notes, they say:
"7) The Canon BJC-8200 and S800 do not produce optimum quality."
That's an understatement.
Michael
Wrong about Epson in general, produces excellent output on my C60 and gimp-print 4.2 was totally easy to install with ./configure make make install. Yast2 did the rest. As for the rest of the mission, well all it took was one line that took me a number of hours to find (this was with Windows to Linux printing). Oh had an issue with webmin corrupting Samba too. You could try http://www.epsondevelopers.com/lprint.jsp to get a wider slection of ideas on getting your printer to work under Linux, but do check www.linuxprinting.org too. Matt
On Monday 31 December 2001 01:52, Gnu iBook 2 wrote: I don't know about gimp-print, but I have to say the comments about Turboprint are a little unfair. It is incredibly easy to install, setup and use and the results are excellent on my Deskjet 930C (YMMV). IMHO it is very good value for money for anyone who just wants to get on with their work and not worry fiddling around with all the other possible ways of getting colour inkjet printers working. Is gimp-print easy to install? Jethro
Everyone pretty much says gimp-print, and I have to agree. It does so happen that I am using the Epson C60 too and getting great output from it under Linux with gimp-print via CUPS. I hope SuSE add gimp-print to their next release, really will help. Matt
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