[SuSE Linux] Replacement for SBS
I am newbie to the Linux world who started when receiving a copy of SuSe Linux 5.2. It took me about two weeks (not continuos!) to get the system installed and getting X-Windows to work with my Matrox G200 video card. My next steps are to get connected to our NT network and getting my modem up and running to connect to the Internet. PART 1 ====== It is a fact of life and as many offices do, we run Microsoft applications. We have smaller office scattered all over the country and are planning to install MS SBS (Small Business Server) mainly for the following reason: It is a one all-in solution. It allows many users to use internal/internet e-mail system (MS Exchange) and send/receive faxes through the server. The same server will also be used as a file server. Initially we do not need dial-in facilities. My question to all you experts out there is very simple -1- Does Linux provide similar facilities (shared faxing, MS exchange, modem sharing on demand, etc.)? -2- Which programs are used for this? -3- Are there any in-depth comparisons between Linux and SBS? PART 2 ====== We mainly use SQL Server 6.5 and Microsoft Access 97 databases. Is there a program which would allow us to connect ot the Access databases from Linux PART 3 ====== Does Linux support USB. I ahve need been able to find reference to this. PART 4 ====== Does Linux have a program similar to "perfon" in Windows NT. The main use will be to look at what speed a current Internet connection is using to send/receive data at regular intervals, e.g. every second. I know this may seem a long list, but as is said I am new to Linux and this probably only 10f the questions I really have. Any help would be highly appreciated!!! ;-)) Bennet - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Hi, On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Bennet Heirwegh wrote:
I am newbie to the Linux world who started when receiving a copy of SuSe Linux 5.2. It took me about two weeks (not continuos!) to get the system installed and getting X-Windows to work with my Matrox G200 video card. My next steps are to get connected to our NT network and getting my modem up and running to connect to the Internet.
PART 1 ====== It is a fact of life and as many offices do, we run Microsoft applications. We have smaller office scattered all over the country and are planning to install MS SBS (Small Business Server) mainly for the following reason:
It is a one all-in solution. It allows many users to use internal/internet e-mail system (MS Exchange) and send/receive faxes through the server. The same server will also be used as a file server. Initially we do not need dial-in facilities.
My question to all you experts out there is very simple -1- Does Linux provide similar facilities (shared faxing, MS exchange, modem sharing on demand, etc.)?
Yes, it does.
-2- Which programs are used for this?
E-Mail: sendmail / POP3 File Services: Samba Fax-Services: Hylafax
-3- Are there any in-depth comparisons between Linux and SBS?
<A HREF="http://www.unix-vs-nt.org"><A HREF="http://www.unix-vs-nt.org</A">http://www.unix-vs-nt.org</A</A>>
PART 2 ====== We mainly use SQL Server 6.5 and Microsoft Access 97 databases. Is there a program which would allow us to connect ot the Access databases from Linux
Yes, there are several Linux RDBMses with an ODBC part, for Axample Adabas D (Demo is on the CD)
PART 3 ====== Does Linux support USB. I ahve need been able to find reference to this.
No, not yet (unfortunately). There is some development going on, though.
PART 4 ====== Does Linux have a program similar to "perfon" in Windows NT. The main use will be to look at what speed a current Internet connection is using to send/receive data at regular intervals, e.g. every second.
Yes, there are a bunch of tools: xosview is one of them.
I know this may seem a long list, but as is said I am new to Linux and this probably only 10f the questions I really have. Any help would be highly appreciated!!!
Hope this helps! LenZ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH <A HREF="mailto:grimmer@suse.de">mailto:grimmer@suse.de</A> Schanzaeckerstr. 10 <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~grimmer"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~grimmer</A">http://www.suse.de/~grimmer</A</A>> 90443 Nuernberg, Germany - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Lenz/Bennet,
E-Mail: sendmail / POP3
a solution worth looking at if time is an issue, is at hawkeye.net. This allows you to setup a webserver with a meta-environment on top of your os's. It uses a MySQL DB engine, and allows http, ftp, pop3, smtp, nntp (for internal use), and has its own chat-protocol. Of course you could build something yourself using apache+php etc but heck.
-3- Are there any in-depth comparisons between Linux and SBS?
<A HREF="http://www.unix-vs-nt.org"><A HREF="http://www.unix-vs-nt.org</A">http://www.unix-vs-nt.org</A</A>>
I must disagree with you Lenz, afaik, this doesn't really talk about SBS in depth, it might be mentioned, but it ain't a comparison an sich.
We mainly use SQL Server 6.5 and Microsoft Access 97 databases. Is there a program which would allow us to connect ot the Access databases from Linux
Yes, there are several Linux RDBMses with an ODBC part, for Axample Adabas D (Demo is on the CD)
But it's the opposite he's asking I fear ? How you can access access databases from linux. These DB engines would put the data on the linuxbox and the client, maybe using access, could get to them using odbc. There's also postgres and ingres on the CD and they are free.
Does Linux have a program similar to "perfon" in Windows NT. The main use will be to look at what speed a current Internet connection is using to send/receive data at regular intervals, e.g. every second.
Yes, there are a bunch of tools: xosview is one of them.
if it's for monitoring the network usage, there's either mrtg (included on SuSE CD) or if you want more information than you can chew, ntop. Mrtg is very nice though and should fulfill any needed thing. Now, maybe the machine at <A HREF="http://panoramix.cmo-waasland.be/~kris/linuxtraining/index.html"><A HREF="http://panoramix.cmo-waasland.be/~kris/linuxtraining/index.html</A">http://panoramix.cmo-waasland.be/~kris/linuxtraining/index.html</A</A>> is still online, there you can see something I tried to setup for a training that should fire up in the beginning of next year. It's in Dutch though, but it looks like German or English ;-) kr= \\\___/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +---------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo-------------+ | kris carlier - kris@iguana.be | | Hiroshima 45, Tsjernobyl 86, Windows 95 | | Linux, the choice of a GNU gener8ion | | SMS: +32-75-61.43.05 | +------------------------Oooo-------------+ oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Bennet Heirwegh wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Does Linux support USB. I ahve need been able to find reference to this. <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE> I's strongly suggest you steer clear of USB for the time being on ANY platform. Many computer magazine hardware reviews at the moment are reporting problems with USB devices on Windows 98 machines. It just looks like the technology isn't mature enough yet for you to risk your job over it. On the other matter, yes, Linux can do all the things you ask as other respondents have noted. And yes, the modem is sharable too. Normally client processes like fax clients and internet programs talk to some other port on the server (a Berkeley socket or whatever) and the server program involved handles the modem. But if you had a comms program that you _had_ to run directly rom your PC (unlikely) I have heard that it is possible for Linux to serve a serial port out to the network, I just don't know how it is done (sorry). Ralph <PRE>-- rclark@virgosolutions.demon.co.uk Ralph Clark, Virgo Solutions Ltd (UK) __ _ / / (_)__ __ ____ __ * Powerful * Flexible * Compatible * Reliable * / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / *Well Supported * Thousands of New Users Every Day* /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ The Cost Effective Choice - Linux Means Business!</PRE>
<DIV><SPAN class=220282000-25111998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Modem sharing is done via a program called modemd. Becarefull, the client for windows will NOT do faxes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Ralph Clark<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 24, 1998 7:08 PM<BR><B>To:</B> suse-linux-e@suse.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [SuSE Linux] Replacement for SBS<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Bennet Heirwegh wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE>Does Linux support USB. I ahve need been able to find reference to this. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>I's strongly suggest you steer clear of USB for the time being on ANY platform. Many computer magazine hardware reviews at the moment are reporting problems with USB devices on Windows 98 machines. It just looks like the technology isn't mature enough yet for you to risk your job over it. On the other matter, yes, Linux can do all the things you ask as other respondents have noted. And yes, the modem is sharable too. Normally client processes like fax clients and internet programs talk to some other port on the server (a Berkeley socket or whatever) and the server program involved handles the modem. But if you had a comms program that you _had_ to run directly rom your PC (unlikely) I have heard that it is possible for Linux to serve a serial port out to the network, I just don't know how it is done (sorry). Ralph <PRE>-- rclark@virgosolutions.demon.co.uk Ralph Clark, Virgo Solutions Ltd (UK) __ _ / / (_)__ __ ____ __ * Powerful * Flexible * Compatible * Reliable * / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / *Well Supported * Thousands of New Users Every Day* /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ The Cost Effective Choice - Linux Means Business!</PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE>
Mark Spieth wrote:
Modem sharing is done via a program called modemd. Becarefull, the client for windows will NOT do faxes.
What have you discovered? I haven't got around to setting up the Windows fax client yet. As I understand it with Outlook 98 on Windows 95, there are two possible fax clients depending on whether you configure Outlook for internet or as corporate something or other (basically as an Exchange client). Which of them can't talk to the Linux fax server on SuSE? Either or both? If neither work maybe someone has or is working on a Windows-compatible Linux fax server. Anyone know anything about this? Anyway: SuSE do have a Java-based fax client called SuSEFax_WIN32 which runs on Win32 platforms: I found it on my favourite (fast) mirror, here: <A HREF="ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/suse_update/SuSEFax_WIN32"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/suse_update/SuSEFax_WIN32</A">ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/suse_update/SuSEFax_WIN32</A</A>> Ralph -- rclark@virgosolutions.demon.co.uk Ralph Clark, Virgo Solutions Ltd (UK) __ _ / / (_)__ __ ____ __ * Powerful * Flexible * Compatible * Reliable * / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / *Well Supported * Thousands of New Users Every Day* /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ The Cost Effective Choice - Linux Means Business! - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
You may also look at haylafax and the client listed in the URL below. <A HREF="http://www.transcom.de/whfc/"><A HREF="http://www.transcom.de/whfc/</A">http://www.transcom.de/whfc/</A</A>>
-----Original Message----- From: owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com [<A HREF="mailto:owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com]On">mailto:owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com]On</A> Behalf Of Ralph Clark Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 8:37 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Replacement for SBS
Mark Spieth wrote:
Modem sharing is done via a program called modemd. Becarefull, the client for windows will NOT do faxes.
What have you discovered? I haven't got around to setting up the Windows fax client yet.
As I understand it with Outlook 98 on Windows 95, there are two possible fax clients depending on whether you configure Outlook for internet or as corporate something or other (basically as an Exchange client). Which of them can't talk to the Linux fax server on SuSE? Either or both?
If neither work maybe someone has or is working on a Windows-compatible Linux fax server. Anyone know anything about this?
Anyway: SuSE do have a Java-based fax client called SuSEFax_WIN32 which runs on Win32 platforms: I found it on my favourite (fast) mirror, here:
<A HREF="ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/suse_update/SuSEFax_WIN32"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/suse_update/SuSEFax_WIN32</A">ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/suse_update/SuSEFax_WIN32</A</A>> Ralph -- rclark@virgosolutions.demon.co.uk Ralph Clark, Virgo Solutions Ltd (UK) __ _ / / (_)__ __ ____ __ * Powerful * Flexible * Compatible * Reliable * / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / *Well Supported * Thousands of New Users Every Day* /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ The Cost Effective Choice - Linux Means Business! - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
<DIV><SPAN class=40073400-25111998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>My "boss" brought home a HP4100cse USB scanner. I then loaded the HP scanning software under Win95 OSR2 and it has never missed a beat. Personally I would have perferred a SCSI but this USB experience has been positive.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=40073400-25111998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=40073400-25111998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2> My 2 Cents</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=40073400-25111998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=40073400-25111998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2> Henry</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com [mailto:owner-suse-linux-e@suse.com]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Ralph Clark<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 24, 1998 6:08 PM<BR><B>To:</B> suse-linux-e@suse.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [SuSE Linux] Replacement for SBS<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Bennet Heirwegh wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE>Does Linux support USB. I ahve need been able to find reference to this. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE>I's strongly suggest you steer clear of USB for the time being on ANY platform. Many computer magazine hardware reviews at the moment are reporting problems with USB devices on Windows 98 machines. It just looks like the technology isn't mature enough yet for you to risk your job over it. On the other matter, yes, Linux can do all the things you ask as other respondents have noted. And yes, the modem is sharable too. Normally client processes like fax clients and internet programs talk to some other port on the server (a Berkeley socket or whatever) and the server program involved handles the modem. But if you had a comms program that you _had_ to run directly rom your PC (unlikely) I have heard that it is possible for Linux to serve a serial port out to the network, I just don't know how it is done (sorry). Ralph <PRE>-- rclark@virgosolutions.demon.co.uk Ralph Clark, Virgo Solutions Ltd (UK) __ _ / / (_)__ __ ____ __ * Powerful * Flexible * Compatible * Reliable * / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / *Well Supported * Thousands of New Users Every Day* /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ The Cost Effective Choice - Linux Means Business!</PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE>
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