Hi All.. Does anyone know howto to keep spamming at bay ... I receive so much that I think the only way that I could stop it is to change my email address. This I don't want todo as the hassle it would cause. Any suggestions welcome... Tia Dre
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 11:19:03PM -0000, arawak wrote:
Does anyone know howto to keep spamming at bay ...
I receive so much that I think the only way that I could stop it is to change my email address.
The spam filter in mozilla-mail 1.3beta is working beautifully for me after only 3 days of training. Henry Harpending
I would like a to have a program that could act as a server process and kill all spams at that host. Instead of doing filters at the email client , it would be nice if I could get all of my laptops mail filtered before reaching them.? tia Dre ---------- On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 23:19, arawak wrote:
Hi All..
Does anyone know howto to keep spamming at bay ...
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 12:09 am, arawak wrote:
I would like a to have a program that could act as a server process and kill all spams at that host.
Spamassassin can be set up this way.
Instead of doing filters at the email client , it would be nice if I could get all of my laptops mail filtered before reaching them.?
In order to do this, you would have to either convince your ISP to install spamassassin [and further convince them to run the program on your behalf] OR you would have to set up a server "at home" to retrieve and filter the messages and then make them available to your laptop This is actually easier than it sounds -- programs such as "fetchmail" would be used to retrieve [and filter] messages from your ISP's mailbox and place them on your server. You then configure your server [and firewall] to allow your laptop-based client to access your "server" to retrieve the [now filtered] messages. -- Yet another Blog: http://osnut.homelinux.net
The 03.02.19 at 02:42, Tom Emerson wrote:
OR you would have to set up a server "at home" to retrieve and filter the messages and then make them available to your laptop
But that way you have to actually download them; it is ok - kind off - if you have a flat rate connection, but not for those that pay by the minute. I read that there are commercial services for spam filtering; they pick up your mail from your isp, and make it available on their server for you to pick-up. I forget the details, but it was a company in the uk. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 6:27 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The 03.02.19 at 02:42, Tom Emerson wrote:
OR you would have to set up a server "at home" to retrieve and filter the messages and then make them available to your laptop
But that way you have to actually download them; it is ok - kind off - if you have a flat rate connection, but not for those that pay by the minute.
True -- I hadn't thought about that aspect. [DSL does that to you ;) ] In that case, you might want to investigate kmail -- it has what they call "pop filters", which only downloads the HEADER [typically only a few hundred bytes] and makes an evaluation based on that. You have to set up some filters to make a decision about the message, but at least you have a "delete from server" action available. [I don't know offhand if you can pass only the headers through spamassassin -- after all, the beauty of SA is that it will recognize the content itself, but there are probably enough "header-related" rules that if you have a high score on those, it's likely to be spam after all...]
I read that there are commercial services for spam filtering; they pick up your mail from your isp, and make it available on their server for you to pick-up. I forget the details, but it was a company in the uk.
which makse sense as I understand a large number of UK-based ISP's do have metered service for home users... [also quite prevailent in Germany, so I'd expect SuSE distro's to have tools oriented to that, where redhat might not include them...] -- Yet another Blog: http://osnut.homelinux.net
The 03.02.20 at 06:59, Tom Emerson wrote:
But that way you have to actually download them; it is ok - kind off - if you have a flat rate connection, but not for those that pay by the minute.
True -- I hadn't thought about that aspect. [DSL does that to you ;) ]
It is not so easy to even consider flat rate or DSL when I have to move often. And not so cheap here, a newspaper said the other day that Spain has the most expensive ADSL service of Europe :-(
In that case, you might want to investigate kmail -- it has what they call "pop filters", which only downloads the HEADER [typically only a few hundred bytes] and makes an evaluation based on that. You have to set up some
Nice... but I use fetchmail, and then, several reader clients, like pine, mozilla, balsa, kmail... Fetchmail doesn't make any filtering (except based on size), but as fetchmail simultaneously opens a connection with postfix, postfix could signal that it wants to reject an email as soon as it knows it is spam, with size been an important factor for rejection. When I used sendmail, mails that had a "from" header that would not resolve were rejected, and fetchmail stopped the download of that email on midtrack.
I read that there are commercial services for spam filtering; they pick up your mail from your isp, and make it available on their server for you to pick-up. I forget the details, but it was a company in the uk.
which makse sense as I understand a large number of UK-based ISP's do have metered service for home users... [also quite prevailent in Germany, so I'd expect SuSE distro's to have tools oriented to that, where redhat might not include them...]
Mmm... then maybe some one from Germany knows of such tools. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Thursday 20 February 2003 20:03 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The 03.02.20 at 06:59, Tom Emerson wrote:
But that way you have to actually download them; it is ok - kind off - if you have a flat rate connection, but not for those that pay by the minute.
True -- I hadn't thought about that aspect. [DSL does that to you ;) ]
It is not so easy to even consider flat rate or DSL when I have to move often. And not so cheap here, a newspaper said the other day that Spain has the most expensive ADSL service of Europe :-(
In that case, you might want to investigate kmail -- it has what they call "pop filters", which only downloads the HEADER [typically only a few hundred bytes] and makes an evaluation based on that. You have to set up some
Nice... but I use fetchmail, and then, several reader clients, like pine, mozilla, balsa, kmail... Fetchmail doesn't make any filtering (except based on size), but as fetchmail simultaneously opens a connection with postfix, postfix could signal that it wants to reject an email as soon as it knows it is spam, with size been an important factor for rejection.
Ok... you use fetchmail. That's a start. And then what? Fetchmail hands off to sendmail... then what? I use: Fetchmail ---> sendmail ---> procmail ---> /var/mail/<several inboxes> --> pop3 from Kmail into several folders. The point I left out above is that Spamassassin is called by a procmail recipe and filters every incoming mail prior to Kmail ever seeing it. I think you're making this more complex than it has to be. Your turn: how do you receive mail now?
When I used sendmail, mails that had a "from" header that would not resolve were rejected, and fetchmail stopped the download of that email on midtrack.
I read that there are commercial services for spam filtering; they pick up your mail from your isp, and make it available on their server for you to pick-up. I forget the details, but it was a company in the uk.
which makse sense as I understand a large number of UK-based ISP's do have metered service for home users... [also quite prevailent in Germany, so I'd expect SuSE distro's to have tools oriented to that, where redhat might not include them...]
Mmm... then maybe some one from Germany knows of such tools.
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The 03.02.20 at 20:40, Bruce Marshall wrote:
Ok... you use fetchmail. That's a start. And then what? Fetchmail hands off to sendmail... then what?
I use:
Fetchmail ---> sendmail ---> procmail ---> /var/mail/<several inboxes> --> pop3 from Kmail into several folders.
The point I left out above is that Spamassassin is called by a procmail recipe and filters every incoming mail prior to Kmail ever seeing it.
I think you're making this more complex than it has to be.
Your turn: how do you receive mail now?
You missed one important point in this sub-thread: I was commenting on how could we could drop spam _before_ downloading the email, or at least, before completely downloading it, as soon as it's known to be spam. Your setup, and mine, works by scanning mail for spam _after_ it has been fully downloaded, and thus, _paid_ for. We would need spam filtering either on the server side of the ISP, or directly from sendmail or postfix - because both programs have the ability, I think, to abort a particular mail from being fully downloaded by fetchmail. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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