OT(?): viewing virtualbox or qemu VM on another host
Hi, all -- This is probably a VM-ish question rather than a SuSE-ish question, but since I'm running OpenSuSE I figured I could ask here to get started :-) I want to create a VM on host X and view it from my host Y desktop. All of the examples I've seen show someone working locally. Can either of these tools support running the VM "there" but viewing and interacting with it "here"? If not, is there another simple and free hypervisor that will fill the bill? I'm not particularly in love with either, not least since I have no experience; they just seem to be at the top of everyone's "virtualization for dummies" lists. I just want to run a few simple VMs, but I have neither the disk space nor the extra RAM on my little desktop to do so -- and I don't particularly want to have to get up and go to the coat^Wserver closet any time I have to access them. TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt
Op donderdag 22 juli 2021 22:01:45 CEST schreef David T-G:
Hi, all --
This is probably a VM-ish question rather than a SuSE-ish question, but since I'm running OpenSuSE I figured I could ask here to get started :-)
I want to create a VM on host X and view it from my host Y desktop. All of the examples I've seen show someone working locally. Can either of these tools support running the VM "there" but viewing and interacting with it "here"?
If not, is there another simple and free hypervisor that will fill the bill? I'm not particularly in love with either, not least since I have no experience; they just seem to be at the top of everyone's "virtualization for dummies" lists.
I just want to run a few simple VMs, but I have neither the disk space nor the extra RAM on my little desktop to do so -- and I don't particularly want to have to get up and go to the coat^Wserver closet any time I have to access them.
TIA & HAND
:-D With virt-manager / KVM / QEMU that can be done. Create the connection to the VM and fire it up.
-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board openSUSE Forums Team
On 2021-07-22 16:57:47 Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
|Op donderdag 22 juli 2021 22:01:45 CEST schreef David T-G: |> Hi, all -- |> |> This is probably a VM-ish question rather than a SuSE-ish question, but |> since I'm running OpenSuSE I figured I could ask here to get started :-) |> |> I want to create a VM on host X and view it from my host Y desktop. All |> of the examples I've seen show someone working locally. Can either of |> these tools support running the VM "there" but viewing and interacting |> with it "here"? |> |> If not, is there another simple and free hypervisor that will fill the |> bill? I'm not particularly in love with either, not least since I have |> no experience; they just seem to be at the top of everyone's |> "virtualization for dummies" lists. |> |> I just want to run a few simple VMs, but I have neither the disk space |> nor the extra RAM on my little desktop to do so -- and I don't |> particularly want to have to get up and go to the coat^Wserver closet |> any time I have to access them. |> |> |> TIA & HAND |> |> :-D | |With virt-manager / KVM / QEMU that can be done. Create the connection to | the VM and fire it up.
So, install QEMU on both, then use QEMU on one to watch the other? Leslie -- Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.3 x86_64
Am Freitag, 23. Juli 2021, 03:57:07 CEST schrieb J Leslie Turriff:
On 2021-07-22 16:57:47 Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
|With virt-manager / KVM / QEMU that can be done. Create the connection to | | the VM and fire it up.
So, install QEMU on both, then use QEMU on one to watch the other?
Almost. You install the whole qemu shebang on host X, then on host y you only need virt-manager or virt-viewer. I prefer Virt-Viewer to access existing VMs like so: virt-viewer -c qemu+ssh://root@kumiko/system With Virt-Manager you have to first manually define the connection to your host x, but then you can even create new VMs on host X while sitting at host Y. Cheers MH -- Mathias Homann Mathias.Homann@openSUSE.org Jabber (XMPP): lemmy@tuxonline.tech IRC: [Lemmy] on freenode and ircnet (bouncer active) telegram: https://telegram.me/lemmy98 keybase: https://keybase.io/lemmy gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102
On 7/22/21 12:01 PM, David T-G wrote:
I want to create a VM on host X and view it from my host Y desktop. All of the examples I've seen show someone working locally. Can either of these tools support running the VM "there" but viewing and interacting with it "here"?
VNC? Or am I completely misunderstanding, again.
Op vrijdag 23 juli 2021 00:03:33 CEST schreef Bill Swisher:
On 7/22/21 12:01 PM, David T-G wrote:
I want to create a VM on host X and view it from my host Y desktop. All of the examples I've seen show someone working locally. Can either of these tools support running the VM "there" but viewing and interacting with it "here"?
VNC? Or am I completely misunderstanding, again. That is another option, but slower than virt-manager
-- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board openSUSE Forums Team
On 2021-07-22 4:01 p.m., David T-G wrote:
Hi, all --
This is probably a VM-ish question rather than a SuSE-ish question, but since I'm running OpenSuSE I figured I could ask here to get started:-)
I want to create a VM on host X and view it from my host Y desktop. All of the examples I've seen show someone working locally. Can either of these tools support running the VM "there" but viewing and interacting with it "here"?
I use NoMachine. https://www.nomachine.com/
Am 22.07.21 um 22:01 schrieb David T-G:
Hi, all --
This is probably a VM-ish question rather than a SuSE-ish question, but since I'm running OpenSuSE I figured I could ask here to get started :-)
I want to create a VM on host X and view it from my host Y desktop. All of the examples I've seen show someone working locally. Can either of these tools support running the VM "there" but viewing and interacting with it "here"?
If not, is there another simple and free hypervisor that will fill the bill? I'm not particularly in love with either, not least since I have no experience; they just seem to be at the top of everyone's "virtualization for dummies" lists.
I just want to run a few simple VMs, but I have neither the disk space nor the extra RAM on my little desktop to do so -- and I don't particularly want to have to get up and go to the coat^Wserver closet any time I have to access them.
TIA & HAND
:-D
Hi, maybe not completely correct, but working, i use: qemu on one machine with 3-4 virtualisations. same machine i use virt-manager. (opensuse tumbleweed out of the box) on other machines i ssh to the above machine and start then virtmanager. is working fine, and fast. inside virtmanager you have to use "spice-server" not "vnc-server". vnc is to slow in my setups. i think it should also work without ssh by configure the then local running virtmanager to connect to the other virtmanage-machine, but i never tried, and not have idea how to to. there is a option to allow multiple connections to one machine /(see and/or edit/use one virtialisation on multiple machines.) must be set from hand, if not, open connections will be closed when connecting from other (virtmanager-ssh-instances). simoN -- www.becherer.de
Hi, all --
This is probably a VM-ish question rather than a SuSE-ish question, but since I'm running OpenSuSE I figured I could ask here to get started :-) I always get distracted when somebody writes openSUSE with a small u (which never existed) or SuSE in any non-historic context (though there are some SUSE-related entities which are still named such). I am a
Hi David, Am 22.07.21 um 22:01 schrieb David T-G: little like that monk character, it disturbs me for no obvious reason whenever I see it. Of course it's a petty thing but I can't get over it.
I want to create a VM on host X and view it from my host Y desktop. All of the examples I've seen show someone working locally. Can either of these tools support running the VM "there" but viewing and interacting with it "here"?
You have multiple options. Virtually all qemu-based or qemu-affiliated tool sets offer the remoting protocols VNC and RDP. This includes KVM and VirtualBox and, to some extent, Xen. I would advise you to stay away from Xen if you really just want to run some VMs with GUIs. See https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=97007 for a VirtualBox discussion. See https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-kvm-vnc-for-guest-machine/ for KVM With KVM and Linux guests, you can also use the very performant spice remoting protocol https://linux-blog.anracom.com/2021/02/26/kvm-qemu-vms-with-multi-screen-spi...
If not, is there another simple and free hypervisor that will fill the bill? I'm not particularly in love with either, not least since I have no experience; they just seem to be at the top of everyone's "virtualization for dummies" lists.
KVM is pretty well-integrated with Linux desktops. If you need a GUI to setup everything, there is VirtManager, however many prefer using a CLI tool like virsh to work with it. VirtManager plays nice with machine local and network remote hypervisors. VirtualBox also is easy for beginners and when you come from a Windows background, it is easy to carry over your existing knowledge.
I just want to run a few simple VMs, but I have neither the disk space nor the extra RAM on my little desktop to do so -- and I don't particularly want to have to get up and go to the coat^Wserver closet any time I have to access them.
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W dniu 22.07.2021 o 22:01, David T-G pisze:
Hi, all --
This is probably a VM-ish question rather than a SuSE-ish question, but since I'm running OpenSuSE I figured I could ask here to get started :-)
I want to create a VM on host X and view it from my host Y desktop. All of the examples I've seen show someone working locally. Can either of these tools support running the VM "there" but viewing and interacting with it "here"?
If not, is there another simple and free hypervisor that will fill the bill? I'm not particularly in love with either, not least since I have no experience; they just seem to be at the top of everyone's "virtualization for dummies" lists.
I just want to run a few simple VMs, but I have neither the disk space nor the extra RAM on my little desktop to do so -- and I don't particularly want to have to get up and go to the coat^Wserver closet any time I have to access them.
TIA & HAND
:-D
On host X install libvirtd (which should pull qemu as dependency) and add your user to libvirt group. On desktop Y install virt-manager. In virt-manager you can configure remote connection via ssh. Then you can manage and view VMs remotely.
Am 23.07.21 um 08:20 schrieb Adam Mizerski:
W dniu 22.07.2021 o 22:01, David T-G pisze:
Hi, all --
This is probably a VM-ish question rather than a SuSE-ish question, but since I'm running OpenSuSE I figured I could ask here to get started :-)
I want to create a VM on host X and view it from my host Y desktop. All of the examples I've seen show someone working locally. Can either of these tools support running the VM "there" but viewing and interacting with it "here"?
If not, is there another simple and free hypervisor that will fill the bill? I'm not particularly in love with either, not least since I have no experience; they just seem to be at the top of everyone's "virtualization for dummies" lists.
I just want to run a few simple VMs, but I have neither the disk space nor the extra RAM on my little desktop to do so -- and I don't particularly want to have to get up and go to the coat^Wserver closet any time I have to access them.
TIA & HAND
:-D
On host X install libvirtd (which should pull qemu as dependency) and add your user to libvirt group. On desktop Y install virt-manager. In virt-manager you can configure remote connection via ssh. Then you can manage and view VMs remotely.
Wow, ssh is a option inside the "file-meue" of virt manager :-O ... never recognized it, have always used a ssh-shell and a remote virt-manager...... nice to know. and by the way, for david: i have spoken from "qemu" its nowdays more or less for enduser similar to "kvm" so all what is written as infos here from kvm = qemu by the way, again, i personally have never used virtual box, but i read more often than from qemu/kvm that with the fast rolling distribution tumbleweed virtual box sometimes when new kernels are provided and will not start. simoN -- www.becherer.de
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