Annoying message when posting to list
Is anyone else getting this:
"Your Mail has not been delivered. As part of my spam control
messages with ! in the subject, and other common spam like
stuff, are rejected. This is not personal. Please just resend
without ! in the subject. Thanks"
from Ruben Safir
* Derek Fountain
Is anyone else getting this:
"Your Mail has not been delivered. As part of my spam control messages with ! in the subject, and other common spam like stuff, are rejected. This is not personal. Please just resend without ! in the subject. Thanks"
from Ruben Safir
when posting to this list? Spam is a problem for us all, but this strikes me as plain stupid. Not to mention annoying.
I sincerely hope this is not true. -- Mads Martin Jørgensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J.
On Wed, 2002-08-07 at 14:23, Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:
* Derek Fountain
[Aug 07. 2002 14:17]: Is anyone else getting this:
"Your Mail has not been delivered. As part of my spam control messages with ! in the subject, and other common spam like stuff, are rejected. This is not personal. Please just resend without ! in the subject. Thanks"
from Ruben Safir
when posting to this list? Spam is a problem for us all, but this strikes me as plain stupid. Not to mention annoying.
I sincerely hope this is not true.
It is true, you should have received this stoopid answer since you now used the exclamation mark in your reply:-( Cheers ... Wolfi ============================================= mailto:wolfi_z@gmx.net
On Wednesday 07 August 2002 14:17, Derek Fountain wrote:
Is anyone else getting this:
"Your Mail has not been delivered. As part of my spam control messages with ! in the subject, and other common spam like stuff, are rejected. This is not personal. Please just resend without ! in the subject. Thanks"
from Ruben Safir
when posting to this list? Spam is a problem for us all, but this strikes me as plain stupid. Not to mention annoying.
Yep, I agree. I've asked Mr. Safir three times to stop, and when he didn't even respond he became the first member of my killfile. -- `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'
* Anders Johansson;
On Wednesday 07 August 2002 14:17, Derek Fountain wrote:
from Ruben Safir
when posting to this list? Spam is a problem for us all, but this strikes me as plain stupid. Not to mention annoying.
Yep, I agree. I've asked Mr. Safir three times to stop, and when he didn't even respond he became the first member of my killfile.
Well I have put his postings to /dev/null also based on his previous behaviour on list. -- Togan Muftuoglu Unofficial SuSE FAQ Maintainer http://dinamizm.ath.cx
* Anders Johansson (andjoh@cicada.linux-site.net) [020807 05:24]:
Yep, I agree. I've asked Mr. Safir three times to stop, and when he didn't even respond he became the first member of my killfile.
He's longer with us. Sorry, -- -ckm
On Wed, 07 Aug 2002 10:47:12 -0700, Christopher Mahmood wrote:
* Anders Johansson (andjoh@cicada.linux-site.net) [020807 05:24]:
Yep, I agree. I've asked Mr. Safir three times to stop, and when he didn't even respond he became the first member of my killfile.
He's longer with us. Sorry,
Do you mean he's *no* longer with you? I see that you are with SuSE. I understand that the moderation of this list is intentionally light-handed. It strikes me that this is a borderline abuse situation and I too have added him to my black list, which means that his mail now gets dropped into a black hole before even being delivered to /dev/null. Should this person be unsubscribed until he can learn better behavior? -- David Benfell, LCP benfell@parts-unknown.org --- Resume available at http://www.parts-unknown.org/resume.html
On Wed, 2002-08-07 at 21:05, David Benfell wrote:
On Wed, 07 Aug 2002 10:47:12 -0700, Christopher Mahmood wrote:
* Anders Johansson (andjoh@cicada.linux-site.net) [020807 05:24]:
Yep, I agree. I've asked Mr. Safir three times to stop, and when he didn't even respond he became the first member of my killfile.
He's longer with us. Sorry,
Do you mean he's *no* longer with you? I see that you are with SuSE.
Should say *no*, otherwise ... no real sense behind that sentence *grin*
(...) I too have added him to my black list, which means that his mail now gets dropped into a black hole before even being delivered to /dev/null.
Me too:-) Cheers ... Wolfi ============================================= mailto:wolfi_z@gmx.net
* David Benfell (benfell@parts-unknown.org) [020807 12:18]: ::On Wed, 07 Aug 2002 10:47:12 -0700, Christopher Mahmood wrote: ::> * Anders Johansson (andjoh@cicada.linux-site.net) [020807 05:24]: ::> > Yep, I agree. I've asked Mr. Safir three times to stop, and when he didn't ::> > even respond he became the first member of my killfile. ::> ::> He's longer with us. Sorry, ::> ::Do you mean he's *no* longer with you? I see that you are with SuSE. It means he's no longer with us on this list and that Chris has unsubscribed him. -=Ben --=====-----=====-- mailto:ben@whack.org --=====-- Tell me what you believe..I tell you what you should see. -DP --=====-----=====--
* David Benfell (benfell@parts-unknown.org) [020807 12:06]:
Do you mean he's *no* longer with you? I see that you are with SuSE.
I meant he's no longer with the list until he fixes his autoreponder. I spoke with him about it and he said he'll fix it tonight--once that's done I'll remove the block I currently have on mail from his domain.
I understand that the moderation of this list is intentionally light-handed. It strikes me that this is a borderline abuse situation and I too have added him to my black list, which means that his mail now gets dropped into a black hole before even being delivered to /dev/null.
Should this person be unsubscribed until he can learn better behavior?
You should have sent mail to suse-linux-e-owner to complain about this, not the list. It's an accident that I even saw it. I normally do unsubscribe people in this situation. -- -ckm
You should have sent mail to suse-linux-e-owner to complain about this, not the list. It's an accident that I even saw it.
I've seen you ask that before, so my first port of call was the SuSE website, looking for the email address of the list maintainer. I couldn't find it and certainly couldn't remember it. My second option was to post to the list with a subject which I hoped was obvious enough that you'd spot it. Perhaps you could add a suitable "mailto" link on http://www.suse.com/us/support/mailinglists/index.html for each list admin? -- 8:05am up 14 days, 22:43, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.06, 0.08
* Derek Fountain;
You should have sent mail to suse-linux-e-owner to complain about this, not the list. It's an accident that I even saw it.
I've seen you ask that before, so my first port of call was the SuSE website,
Since it is a FAQ have a look to http://susefaq.sourceforge.net/maillist.html#AEN173 -- Togan Muftuoglu Unofficial SuSE FAQ Maintainer http://dinamizm.ath.cx
* Derek Fountain (fountai@hursley.ibm.com) [020808 00:12]:
I've seen you ask that before, so my first port of call was the SuSE website, looking for the email address of the list maintainer. I couldn't find it and certainly couldn't remember it. My second option was to post to the list with a subject which I hoped was obvious enough that you'd spot it.
Each mail from the list contains this information multiple times: It's in the headers, it's in the information you received when you subscribed (and were asked to keep for future reference), and is even in the trailer attached to every mail ('mail listname-help@suse.com for more commands). Why would putting this information on a web page make it more likely that people will pay attention to it? -- -ckm
Me too time. I agrr 100% with Christopher. Most modern listservs generate these in the headers, and some good email clients understand them: exmh generates a drop down list Pegasus generates a button and a dialog box. In neither case are these visible unless you look at the raw headers. On 8 Aug 2002 at 11:53, Christopher Mahmood wrote:
Each mail from the list contains this information multiple times: It's in the headers, it's in the information you received when you subscribed (and were asked to keep for future reference), and is even in the trailer attached to every mail ('mail listname-help@suse.com for more commands). Why would putting this information on a web page make it more likely that people will pay attention to it?
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-ckm
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Christopher Mahmood schrieb:
Each mail from the list contains this information multiple times: It's in the headers, it's in the information you received when you subscribed (and were asked to keep for future reference), and is even in the trailer attached to every mail ('mail listname-help@suse.com for more commands). Why would putting this information on a web page make it more likely that people will pay attention to it? I agree to your point Christopher. And I take it for proof that usually people here do FIRST ask a question here instead of looking into sdb (as do I :-9) or even surfing to Suse's pages.
So all in all, people would care even LESS about it when you put such things on a web page. Hey Christopher! Get back to me in PM - it's about your Europe tour! -- *º¤.,___,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤ =Oliver@home= *º¤.,¸¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤ I / __|__ http://www.bmw-roadster.de/Friends/Olli/olli.html I I / / |_/ http://www.bmw-roadster.de/Friends/friends.html I I \ \__|_\ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VGAP-93 I I \___| mailto:VGAP-93-subscribe@yahoogroups.com I
Telek0ma iBBMS - moving house, but online! +49....TRSi1 <<<
I procmailed this guy out a long, long time ago because he did things
like this. He's been doing it since he first subscribed. I would suggest
filtering him.
* Derek Fountain (fountai@hursley.ibm.com) [020807 05:45]:
::Is anyone else getting this:
::
::"Your Mail has not been delivered. As part of my spam control
::messages with ! in the subject, and other common spam like
::stuff, are rejected. This is not personal. Please just resend
::without ! in the subject. Thanks"
::
::from Ruben Safir
participants (10)
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Anders Johansson
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Ben Rosenberg
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Christopher Mahmood
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David Benfell
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Derek Fountain
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Jerry Feldman
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Mads Martin Joergensen
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Oliver Ob
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Togan Muftuoglu
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wolfi