Recommended software for sending faxes
What software do folks recommend for sending faxes? I don't need to receive them. I'm running KDE and SuSE 10.0. I actually have two modems: an external USR one, which I'd prefer not to use if I don't have to, and an internal PCTel one, which I have yet to get working properly (see my other thread). And on the same subject: what do I need to do to set up the modem for this function? The Yast facility for configuring a modem seems to assume that the modem is being used to contact an ISP, which is not the case in my situation. Paul
On Saturday 26 August 2006 09:49, Paul Abrahams wrote:
What software do folks recommend for sending faxes? I don't need to receive them. I'm running KDE and SuSE 10.0. I actually have two modems: an external USR one, which I'd prefer not to use if I don't have to, and an internal PCTel one, which I have yet to get working properly (see my other thread).
And on the same subject: what do I need to do to set up the modem for this function? The Yast facility for configuring a modem seems to assume that the modem is being used to contact an ISP, which is not the case in my situation.
Paul
hylafax and its included with SUSE. Works for a single fax client up to thousands of users and hundreds of fax lines. It is a very good modem diagnostic package also. Separate from YaST's modem setup. All you need to know to configure and troubleshoot hylafax is in the included documentation plus their website http://www.hylafax.org/. Stan
On Saturday 26 August 2006 11:32, Stan Glasoe wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 09:49, Paul Abrahams wrote:
What software do folks recommend for sending faxes? I don't need to receive them. I'm running KDE and SuSE 10.0. I actually have two modems: an external USR one, which I'd prefer not to use if I don't have to, and an internal PCTel one, which I have yet to get working properly (see my other thread).
And on the same subject: what do I need to do to set up the modem for this function? The Yast facility for configuring a modem seems to assume that the modem is being used to contact an ISP, which is not the case in my situation.
Paul
hylafax and its included with SUSE. Works for a single fax client up to thousands of users and hundreds of fax lines.
It is a very good modem diagnostic package also. Separate from YaST's modem setup. All you need to know to configure and troubleshoot hylafax is in the included documentation plus their website http://www.hylafax.org/.
I've set up hylafax in the past. Fairly complex for a simple out going fax use. I I thought this was integrated into kdeprintfax which can use sendfax which is a lot lighter weight. It integrates into your print dialog on kde packages, and shows up as another printer. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
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What software do folks recommend for sending faxes? I don't need to receive them. I'm running KDE and SuSE 10.0. I actually have two modems: an external USR one, which I'd prefer not to use if I don't have to, and an internal PCTel one, which I have yet to get working properly (see my other thread).
And on the same subject: what do I need to do to set up the modem for this function? The Yast facility for configuring a modem seems to assume that
At 10:49 AM 8/26/2006 -0400, Paul Abrahams wrote: the
modem is being used to contact an ISP, which is not the case in my situation.
Paul
On a similar note, and perhaps to solve the problem above, is there any way to send a FAX thru the Internet? If so, how? --doug
On Saturday 26 August 2006 17:46, Doug McGarrett wrote:
At 10:49 AM 8/26/2006 -0400, Paul Abrahams wrote:
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What software do folks recommend for sending faxes? I don't need to receive them. I'm running KDE and SuSE 10.0. I actually have two modems: an external USR one, which I'd prefer not to use if I don't have to, and an internal PCTel one, which I have yet to get working properly (see my other thread).
And on the same subject: what do I need to do to set up the modem for this function? The Yast facility for configuring a modem seems to assume that
the
modem is being used to contact an ISP, which is not the case in my situation.
Paul
On a similar note, and perhaps to solve the problem above, is there any way to send a FAX thru the Internet? If so, how?
--doug
eFax but it costs money.
On Saturday 26 August 2006 13:46, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On a similar note, and perhaps to solve the problem above, is there any way to send a FAX thru the Internet? If so, how?
Do none of you guys run KDE? Am I the only one who does? While reading this message, select File Print, and then choose Mail PDF as the printer. Done. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Saturday 26 August 2006 17:58, John Andersen wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 13:46, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On a similar note, and perhaps to solve the problem above, is there any way to send a FAX thru the Internet? If so, how?
Do none of you guys run KDE? Am I the only one who does?
While reading this message, select File Print, and then choose Mail PDF as the printer. Done.
Huh?? and this gets sent to *what* phone number.....?
On Saturday 26 August 2006 14:12, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 17:58, John Andersen wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 13:46, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On a similar note, and perhaps to solve the problem above, is there any way to send a FAX thru the Internet? If so, how?
Do none of you guys run KDE? Am I the only one who does?
While reading this message, select File Print, and then choose Mail PDF as the printer. Done.
Huh?? and this gets sent to *what* phone number.....?
Anybody who has a fax also has an email address. In the same dialog offering to send via a pdf, there is an option to send via fax. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On 8/26/06, John Andersen <jsa@pen.homeip.net> wrote:
Anybody who has a fax also has an email address.
huh? Patently grandiose ... in your world, perhaps. And mostly in mine. But I have several customers who do business all over the world, with people that very often have fax machines and ... surprisingly seldom have (at least working) email addresses.
In the same dialog offering to send via a pdf, there is an option to send via fax.
now that you mention it, I see that option also. The trouble is, I don't have a modem .... so, I guess the question at this point would be: "how would one setup the "fax" to which that option refers "send to fax"? Peter
On Saturday 26 August 2006 18:25, Peter Van Lone wrote:
now that you mention it, I see that option also. The trouble is, I don't have a modem .... so, I guess the question at this point would be:
"how would one setup the "fax" to which that option refers "send to fax"?
You would use hylafax..... and a modem..... and around we go......
On Saturday 26 August 2006 14:25, Peter Van Lone wrote:
The trouble is, I don't have a modem .... so, I guess the question at this point would be:
"how would one setup the "fax" to which that option refers "send to fax"?
Peter
A phone line and a modem (or an internet account with one of 100 different Efax services) is sort of a requirement for sending faxes. The OP had two modems. My laptop has one. I have sent faxes with the laptop using this method since suse 8.1. If you can find a free-fax service using the internet, go for it. For the price of a bluetooth dongle you might be able to fax thru your cell phone after a lot of dicking around with kbluetoothd. But realistically, if you need to fax, get a modem. It will be cheaper than the time and money you will spend getting any other solution other than mailing PDFs around. Or treat yourself to one of those All-In-One HP printers that do printing, scanning, faxing, and have a built in can opener and cigarette lighter. Mailing PDFs is fast becoming the standard. My company does a lot of business with mailed PDFs of purchase orders etc. Faxes are so 1985. ;-) -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Saturday 26 August 2006 18:36, John Andersen wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 14:25, Peter Van Lone wrote:
The trouble is, I don't have a modem .... so, I guess the question at this point would be:
"how would one setup the "fax" to which that option refers "send to fax"?
Peter
A phone line and a modem (or an internet account with one of 100 different Efax services) is sort of a requirement for sending faxes. The OP had two modems. My laptop has one. I have sent faxes with the laptop using this method since suse 8.1.
All you need is an internet connection and there are many services, free or not that can be used. Here is a nice price comparison page where you type in your requirements: http://www.faxprices.com/
If you can find a free-fax service using the internet, go for it. For the price of a bluetooth dongle you might be able to fax thru your cell phone after a lot of dicking around with kbluetoothd.
But realistically, if you need to fax, get a modem. It will be cheaper than the time and money you will spend getting any other solution other than mailing PDFs around.
Don't think I'll use my modem again.... too much trouble to set up Hylafax. The price page above says for my usage (and I said I would use more than I would) the price would be $1.11US. And if I don't use it at all... (likely) the price would be ZERO.
Or treat yourself to one of those All-In-One HP printers that do printing, scanning, faxing, and have a built in can opener and cigarette lighter.
And the phone charges.
Mailing PDFs is fast becoming the standard. My company does a lot of business with mailed PDFs of purchase orders etc. Faxes are so 1985. ;-)
Tell that to people out in the boonies.... of which there are a lot of us...
On 8/26/06, John Andersen <jsa@pen.homeip.net> wrote:
A phone line and a modem (or an internet account with one of 100 different Efax services) is sort of a requirement for sending faxes. The OP had two modems. My laptop has one. I have sent faxes with the laptop using this method since suse 8.1.
yes, I guess I did not make myself clear. I was not *also* asking for this help ... I was rather pointing out that the menu item "send to fax" was available despite the fact that I have no modem (which would, obviously, cause choosing the menu item to fail).
Mailing PDFs is fast becoming the standard. My company does a lot of business with mailed PDFs of purchase orders etc. Faxes are so 1985. ;-)
it's funny ... for you and I yes ... not for everyone, as I said earlier. I don't know what the OP's particular need is, other than ... for fax. Peter
On Saturday 26 August 2006 18:19, John Andersen wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 14:12, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 17:58, John Andersen wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 13:46, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On a similar note, and perhaps to solve the problem above, is there any way to send a FAX thru the Internet? If so, how?
Do none of you guys run KDE? Am I the only one who does?
While reading this message, select File Print, and then choose Mail PDF as the printer. Done.
Huh?? and this gets sent to *what* phone number.....?
Anybody who has a fax also has an email address.
You gotta be kidding..... In a large organzation, who you going to send it to. I wouldn't even send a classified adv. to my local paper unless they provided an email address to send it to.
In the same dialog offering to send via a pdf, there is an option to send via fax.
Oh suire..... and when I do that I get: Sending to fax using: /usr/bin/sendfax -h 'localhost' -m blah blah (Work/Fax)'@'xxxxxxxxx '/tmp/kde-bmarsh/kdeprint_GHtZVaEv' Can not reach server at host "localhost", port 4559. So I need hylafax running anyway so what have I gained but maybe a quick formatting of the file before I send it. I *do* use hylafax and it is not trivial to set up. ON ANOTHER NOTE --------------------------- I just did a test with www.faxzero.com which will allow you to send a free fax (with an adv on the cover page) and it worked just fine... I send about 1 fax a month or maybe every other month. I may start using faxzero instead since it is so easy. And in those cases where you don't want an adv. on the cover page, you can pay $1.79 for a fax without the advertisement on the cover page.
On Saturday 26 August 2006 14:33, Bruce Marshall wrote:
So I need hylafax running anyway so what have I gained but maybe a quick formatting of the file before I send it.
No you can use sendfax. Its lighter, and easier to set up. _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Saturday 26 August 2006 18:37, John Andersen wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 14:33, Bruce Marshall wrote:
So I need hylafax running anyway so what have I gained but maybe a quick formatting of the file before I send it.
No you can use sendfax. Its lighter, and easier to set up.
_____________________________________ John Andersen
I'm sorry.... but what are you smoking..... The error message showed that I was using sendfax. and it was trying to deal with the hylafax server. From the 'man sendfax' page: sendfax submits one or more facsimile transmission requests to a HylaFAX facsimile server.
On Sunday 27 August 2006 00:55, Bruce Marshall wrote:
The error message showed that I was using sendfax. and it was trying to deal with the hylafax server.
From the 'man sendfax' page:
sendfax submits one or more facsimile transmission requests to a HylaFAX facsimile server.
There is a specific package called sendfax, which works without using hylafax.
On Saturday 26 August 2006 19:02, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 27 August 2006 00:55, Bruce Marshall wrote:
The error message showed that I was using sendfax. and it was trying to deal with the hylafax server.
From the 'man sendfax' page:
sendfax submits one or more facsimile transmission requests to a HylaFAX facsimile server.
There is a specific package called sendfax, which works without using hylafax.
Yup I just discovered that it is part (apparently) of mgetty. Loading it now, but I would guess it is not that much easier to set up than hylafax. Will report back.
On Saturday 26 August 2006 19:09, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 19:02, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 27 August 2006 00:55, Bruce Marshall wrote:
The error message showed that I was using sendfax. and it was trying to deal with the hylafax server.
From the 'man sendfax' page:
sendfax submits one or more facsimile transmission requests to a HylaFAX facsimile server.
There is a specific package called sendfax, which works without using hylafax.
Yup I just discovered that it is part (apparently) of mgetty. Loading it now, but I would guess it is not that much easier to set up than hylafax. Will report back.
And the report..... I deleted hylafax.... installed mgetty+sendfax. Configured it as I think it needed to be configured. Did the kmail - print mail - send to fax bit.... and it is complaining that it "Can't open -C!" The -C option is for a program to generate a cover page but it also says that "-C -" is a special case where it will NOT generate a cover page. The call to faxspool being used in this case specified -C -. So it's not working as planned, and yes, I can probably figure it out but so far it is no easier than hylafax even if I do get it working.
On Saturday 26 August 2006 15:02, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 27 August 2006 00:55, Bruce Marshall wrote:
The error message showed that I was using sendfax. and it was trying to deal with the hylafax server.
From the 'man sendfax' page:
sendfax submits one or more facsimile transmission requests to a HylaFAX facsimile server.
There is a specific package called sendfax, which works without using hylafax.
I believe the actual package is called something like Mgetty+Sendfax and ksendfax is known to work with it. http://ksendfax.sourceforge.net/ http://mgetty.greenie.net/ BTW this took me 37 seconds on google. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Saturday 26 August 2006 14:33, Bruce Marshall wrote:
Anybody who has a fax also has an email address.
You gotta be kidding..... In a large organzation, who you going to send it to. I wouldn't even send a classified adv. to my local paper unless they provided an email address to send it to.
Really? Must be some big companies that you deal with. Me, I only do business via PDF with little companies like the US GOVERNMENT and other pip-squeeks like that. Never a problem dealing with these people via email. I take P.O.s via pdf, I invoice them via PDF. The world is changing. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Saturday 26 August 2006 18:41, John Andersen wrote:
Really? Must be some big companies that you deal with.
Me, I only do business via PDF with little companies like the US GOVERNMENT and other pip-squeeks like that. Never a problem dealing with these people via email. I take P.O.s via pdf, I invoice them via PDF.
The world is changing.
You are right.... I deal with small companies, like my local paper. And they don't do classifieds by email.
Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 18:41, John Andersen wrote:
Really? Must be some big companies that you deal with.
Me, I only do business via PDF with little companies like the US GOVERNMENT and other pip-squeeks like that. Never a problem dealing with these people via email. I take P.O.s via pdf, I invoice them via PDF.
The world is changing.
You are right.... I deal with small companies, like my local paper. And they don't do classifieds by email.
They probably hand set type too. ;-)
On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 18:59 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 18:41, John Andersen wrote:
Really? Must be some big companies that you deal with.
Me, I only do business via PDF with little companies like the US GOVERNMENT and other pip-squeeks like that. Never a problem dealing with these people via email. I take P.O.s via pdf, I invoice them via PDF.
The world is changing.
You are right.... I deal with small companies, like my local paper. And they don't do classifieds by email.
They probably hand set type too. ;-)
Well there are still small towns in America. Not a lot of the issues of the big city or the headaches. -- ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/
John Andersen wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 14:33, Bruce Marshall wrote:
Anybody who has a fax also has an email address. You gotta be kidding..... In a large organzation, who you going to send it to. I wouldn't even send a classified adv. to my local paper unless they provided an email address to send it to.
Really? Must be some big companies that you deal with.
Me, I only do business via PDF with little companies like the US GOVERNMENT and other pip-squeeks like that. Never a problem dealing with these people via email. I take P.O.s via pdf, I invoice them via PDF.
The world is changing.
I recently convinced a salesman at my company to use OpenOffice, so that he can generate PDFs for proposals etc. I'm getting the impression he now prefers OO to MS Office. :-)
On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 14:19 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 14:12, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 17:58, John Andersen wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 13:46, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On a similar note, and perhaps to solve the problem above, is there any way to send a FAX thru the Internet? If so, how?
Do none of you guys run KDE? Am I the only one who does?
While reading this message, select File Print, and then choose Mail PDF as the printer. Done.
Huh?? and this gets sent to *what* phone number.....?
Anybody who has a fax also has an email address.
In the same dialog offering to send via a pdf, there is an option to send via fax.
I don't see that dialog using Evolution under KDE in 10.0. I do see save as a PDF though.
Mike McMullin wrote:
In the same dialog offering to send via a pdf, there is an option to send via fax.
I don't see that dialog using Evolution under KDE in 10.0. I do see save as a PDF though.
I believe that option is in Kprinter.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-08-26 at 14:19 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
Anybody who has a fax also has an email address.
Not true. And I know more than a few that do that have one single email address for the whole business (hundred of employees) and ignore any incoming email unless you phone them previously and tell them to expect an email. I'm not kidding. Some government agencies here, for instance, accept faxed documents but not emailed ones - as if faxed signatures couldn't be scanned and faked. Europe, mind you. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFE83z+tTMYHG2NR9URAq7AAKCUiF8SMjWp4lZoo6H8jekQ91zV+wCeOEub wTOCQf7yPtIDzcwnwZmfxIA= =SpNE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Doug McGarrett wrote:
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What software do folks recommend for sending faxes? I don't need to receive them. I'm running KDE and SuSE 10.0. I actually have two modems: an external USR one, which I'd prefer not to use if I don't have to, and an internal PCTel one, which I have yet to get working properly (see my other thread).
And on the same subject: what do I need to do to set up the modem for this function? The Yast facility for configuring a modem seems to assume that
At 10:49 AM 8/26/2006 -0400, Paul Abrahams wrote: the
modem is being used to contact an ISP, which is not the case in my situation.
Paul
On a similar note, and perhaps to solve the problem above, is there any way to send a FAX thru the Internet? If so, how?
--doug
Well, you could alway email a PDF. I rarely use fax these days, as PDFs are so much easier.
On Saturday 26 August 2006 17:31, James Knott wrote:
Doug McGarrett wrote:
At 10:49 AM 8/26/2006 -0400, Paul Abrahams wrote:
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What software do folks recommend for sending faxes? I don't need to receive them. I'm running KDE and SuSE 10.0. I actually have two modems: an external USR one, which I'd prefer not to use if I don't have to, and an internal PCTel one, which I have yet to get working properly (see my other thread).
And on the same subject: what do I need to do to set up the modem for this function? The Yast facility for configuring a modem seems to assume that
the
modem is being used to contact an ISP, which is not the case in my situation.
Paul
On a similar note, and perhaps to solve the problem above, is there any way to send a FAX thru the Internet? If so, how?
--doug
Well, you could alway email a PDF. I rarely use fax these days, as PDFs are so much easier.
I thought I answered the OP's exact question rather well. Sendfax has been deprecated for sometime in favor of hylafax. hylafax just does faxes, period. It can be trivial to setup, especially about the third time you do it after you've learned it all. And if I'm not mistaken, which I may be in this case because IANAL, faxes are a legal instrument in a court of law whereas emails or PDFs don't carry the same weight in court. I refer to US Law. The fax protocol verifies an exact duplicate of the graphic sent, date and time stamps, sender and receiver, etc and more important, has been established in case law in the US. For example, stock trades can't be left on voice mail, they have to have a way to verify a signature and fax fits that. Not sure about a PDF within an email for stock trades. So far, I didn't think any protocol had been established via email/PDF/etc that had the same weight as a fax - in court. I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong! :) Stan
Stan Glasoe wrote:
On Saturday 26 August 2006 17:31, James Knott wrote:
Doug McGarrett wrote:
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What software do folks recommend for sending faxes? I don't need to receive them. I'm running KDE and SuSE 10.0. I actually have two modems: an external USR one, which I'd prefer not to use if I don't have to, and an internal PCTel one, which I have yet to get working properly (see my other thread).
And on the same subject: what do I need to do to set up the modem for this function? The Yast facility for configuring a modem seems to assume that
At 10:49 AM 8/26/2006 -0400, Paul Abrahams wrote: the
modem is being used to contact an ISP, which is not the case in my situation.
Paul On a similar note, and perhaps to solve the problem above, is there any way to send a FAX thru the Internet? If so, how?
--doug Well, you could alway email a PDF. I rarely use fax these days, as PDFs are so much easier.
I thought I answered the OP's exact question rather well. Sendfax has been deprecated for sometime in favor of hylafax. hylafax just does faxes, period. It can be trivial to setup, especially about the third time you do it after you've learned it all.
It seems that every time I want to send a fax, I have to reinstall the software, because I've upgraded distros since the last time I sent a fax. ;-)
And if I'm not mistaken, which I may be in this case because IANAL, faxes are a legal instrument in a court of law whereas emails or PDFs don't carry the same weight in court. I refer to US Law. The fax protocol verifies an exact duplicate of the graphic sent, date and time stamps, sender and receiver, etc and more important, has been established in case law in the US.
For example, stock trades can't be left on voice mail, they have to have a way to verify a signature and fax fits that. Not sure about a PDF within an email for stock trades.
So far, I didn't think any protocol had been established via email/PDF/etc that had the same weight as a fax - in court.
I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong! :)
In Canada, a digitally signed email is also legal document.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-08-26 at 18:21 -0500, Stan Glasoe wrote:
And if I'm not mistaken, which I may be in this case because IANAL, faxes are a legal instrument in a court of law whereas emails or PDFs don't carry the same weight in court. I refer to US Law. The fax protocol verifies an exact duplicate of the graphic sent, date and time stamps, sender and receiver, etc and more important, has been established in case law in the US.
I think that's the case also in my country. The caveat is that an apparently hand signed document sent through a computer and a fax modem can in fact be scanned and faked. Perhaps legislators thought of fax machines and are not aware of the state of technology. I worked for a big telephone and isp company some time ago. Inter-operator complaints had be faxed in real paper, email was not accepted - even if the fax was unreadable by third time around. And I'm talking of really big (here) telecommunications companies. True, there were talks of implementing a "modern" method. On the other hand, with some government agencies here (Spain) a digitally signed email is also legally binding. But not for all of them! There are also some official agencies here that accept PDF digitally signed via Acrobat software as legally biding instead of officially stamped paper work - in fact, the software adds a semitransparent red stamp to the PDF file. It's used for official engineering projects, for instance. Windows only, I'm afraid. Electronic red tape, I think you would call it :-p Also, I know a lot of business that put up a web page and email (a hotmail one, perhaps!), totally useless and inactive: you have to use paper-mail, phone, or fax to contact them. The web pages were set up because somebody convinced them that it was the in fashion thing to do around 2000 - you know, before the bubble exploded. We are technically minded people in this list, and I suppose we think of "modern" technical means to solve current problems, but not all the world is of the same mind set even in advanced countries. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFE84QKtTMYHG2NR9URAq50AKCLfPQ5HDVNyk6fx6PjULsZqU1aegCdFwKf BioeNTQSFMOcL96ii03ILfU= =UrV2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 10:49 -0400, Paul Abrahams wrote:
What software do folks recommend for sending faxes? I don't need to receive them. I'm running KDE and SuSE 10.0. I actually have two modems: an external USR one, which I'd prefer not to use if I don't have to, and an internal PCTel one, which I have yet to get working properly (see my other thread).
Hylafax as the server, and either jhylafax or kdesendfax as the client.
And on the same subject: what do I need to do to set up the modem for this function? The Yast facility for configuring a modem seems to assume that the modem is being used to contact an ISP, which is not the case in my situation.
See the documentation for hylafax, and Google for setting it up. There is a lot of good info on the web, and a discussion on this list earlier about faxing from 10.0. Also if there's a problem you can get excellent help here. IIRC you are looking at some type of winmodem, I don't know if faxing is supported in the driver, so your external USR might be an easier way to go.
On Sunday 27 August 2006 1:11 am, Mike McMullin wrote:
See the documentation for hylafax, and Google for setting it up. There is a lot of good info on the web, and a discussion on this list earlier about faxing from 10.0. Also if there's a problem you can get excellent help here.
After updating the pctel drivers I actually managed to send one test fax. Then I started encountering a persistent problem: "modem busy" messages. Using minicom I could still send test sequences to the PCTel modem, but I could not send any more faxes. And now I can't even get that far: I get the message from sendfax (the one that works with Hylafax): Can not reach server at host "localhost", port 4559. I get that even when running as root. Paul
On Sunday 27 August 2006 12:28, Paul Abrahams wrote:
On Sunday 27 August 2006 1:11 am, Mike McMullin wrote:
See the documentation for hylafax, and Google for setting it up. There is a lot of good info on the web, and a discussion on this list earlier about faxing from 10.0. Also if there's a problem you can get excellent help here.
After updating the pctel drivers I actually managed to send one test fax. Then I started encountering a persistent problem: "modem busy" messages. Using minicom I could still send test sequences to the PCTel modem, but I could not send any more faxes. And now I can't even get that far: I get the message from sendfax (the one that works with Hylafax):
Can not reach server at host "localhost", port 4559.
I get that even when running as root.
Paul
Yup... one of the problems with hylafax is trying to get it going... or keep it going. I get a lot of "Waiting for modem to come ready" messages when the modem is clearly ready. Normally what I do in your case is to run faxsetup (for the nth) time which will check everything over and restart hylafax. But not guaranteed to fix your problem. I made up the following cheat sheet which helps since I run hylafax so rarely: ============================================ Don't start hylafax first. Make sure that /dev/modem--> ttyS? <--- your modem sendfax -n -d 5774662 /home/pmfax/sal60429.ps <--- sendfax your file Run faxsetup and it should take off. faxstat and faxstat -s to query And sudo -u <userid> faxrm <ID> to remove. faxstat -d to show completed jobs. HTH
On Sunday 27 August 2006 12:49 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote:
Yup... one of the problems with hylafax is trying to get it going... or keep it going. I get a lot of "Waiting for modem to come ready" messages when the modem is clearly ready.
I accounted for the port message: the hylafax daemon wasn't running.
Normally what I do in your case is to run faxsetup (for the nth) time which will check everything over and restart hylafax. But not guaranteed to fix your problem.
I made up the following cheat sheet which helps since I run hylafax so rarely: ============================================ Don't start hylafax first.
Make sure that /dev/modem--> ttyS? <--- your modem
sendfax -n -d 5774662 /home/pmfax/sal60429.ps <--- sendfax your file
Run faxsetup and it should take off.
faxstat and faxstat -s to query
And sudo -u <userid> faxrm <ID> to remove.
faxstat -d to show completed jobs.
I tried all that and still get the message. At some point I also got another message, which I can't retrieve now, indicating that there was something wrong with FIFO.modem. I suspect that's the root cause. Paul
On Sun, 2006-08-27 at 12:28 -0400, Paul Abrahams wrote:
On Sunday 27 August 2006 1:11 am, Mike McMullin wrote:
See the documentation for hylafax, and Google for setting it up. There is a lot of good info on the web, and a discussion on this list earlier about faxing from 10.0. Also if there's a problem you can get excellent help here.
After updating the pctel drivers I actually managed to send one test fax. Then I started encountering a persistent problem: "modem busy" messages. Using minicom I could still send test sequences to the PCTel modem, but I could not send any more faxes. And now I can't even get that far: I get the message from sendfax (the one that works with Hylafax):
Can not reach server at host "localhost", port 4559.
I get that even when running as root.
I don't recall exactly where to find this, but you need to make sure that you have either modemgetty or faxgetty running. I believe that was my problem as well. The thread is "Faxing from 10.0" and starts April 06,2006. Mike
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