For years, I have been copying the full ISO to a USB stick for installation. I just realized I should now be using the NET install image, because my Internet speed is faster than USB 2! Until a couple of years ago, my download bandwidth was 75 Mb or less. It's now officially 500 Mb, but actually around 900 Mb. USB 2 tops out 480, assuming appropriate hardware.
On 2022-06-12 21:36, James Knott wrote:
For years, I have been copying the full ISO to a USB stick for installation. I just realized I should now be using the NET install image, because my Internet speed is faster than USB 2! Until a couple of years ago, my download bandwidth was 75 Mb or less. It's now officially 500 Mb, but actually around 900 Mb. USB 2 tops out 480, assuming appropriate hardware.
{chuckle} :-) I wonder what is the read speed for a DVD. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)
On 2022-06-12 3:50 p.m., Carlos E. R. wrote:
I wonder what is the read speed for a DVD.
That depends on how fast your drive can spin it. I haven't used DVD images for years. The first time I installed Linux, Slackware, it was from floppies! Incidentally, my ISP currently offers 2.5 Gb symmetrical Internet over fibre and plan to offer 8 Gb soon. My home network is "only" 1 Gb, so even with coax I'm approaching the limit. Here's a speedtest from a couple of days ago. https://www.speedtest.net/result/13265977448
* James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> [06-12-22 16:00]:
On 2022-06-12 3:50 p.m., Carlos E. R. wrote:
I wonder what is the read speed for a DVD.
That depends on how fast your drive can spin it. I haven't used DVD images for years. The first time I installed Linux, Slackware, it was from floppies!
Incidentally, my ISP currently offers 2.5 Gb symmetrical Internet over fibre and plan to offer 8 Gb soon. My home network is "only" 1 Gb, so even with coax I'm approaching the limit. Here's a speedtest from a couple of days ago. https://www.speedtest.net/result/13265977448
why is your upload so slow? I get 980+ with att fiber. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
On 2022-06-12 4:04 p.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Incidentally, my ISP currently offers 2.5 Gb symmetrical Internet over fibre and plan to offer 8 Gb soon. My home network is "only" 1 Gb, so even with coax I'm approaching the limit. Here's a speedtest from a couple of days ago. https://www.speedtest.net/result/13265977448 why is your upload so slow? I get 980+ with att fiber.
I'm not on fibre. I'm on DOCSIS over coax.
On 6/12/22 14:59, James Knott wrote:
That depends on how fast your drive can spin it. I haven't used DVD images for years. The first time I installed Linux, Slackware, it was from floppies!
Don't laugh, I installed the NET iso from CD.... I have hundreds to burn... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 2022-06-12 3:59 p.m., James Knott wrote:
On 2022-06-12 3:50 p.m., Carlos E. R. wrote:
I wonder what is the read speed for a DVD.
That depends on how fast your drive can spin it. I haven't used DVD images for years. The first time I installed Linux, Slackware, it was from floppies!
Incidentally, my ISP currently offers 2.5 Gb symmetrical Internet over fibre and plan to offer 8 Gb soon. My home network is "only" 1 Gb, so even with coax I'm approaching the limit. Here's a speedtest from a couple of days ago. https://www.speedtest.net/result/13265977448
My ISP just gave me an upload increase. Here's the latest. https://www.speedtest.net/result/13273945498
* James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> [06-12-22 22:41]:
On 2022-06-12 3:59 p.m., James Knott wrote:
On 2022-06-12 3:50 p.m., Carlos E. R. wrote:
I wonder what is the read speed for a DVD.
That depends on how fast your drive can spin it. I haven't used DVD images for years. The first time I installed Linux, Slackware, it was from floppies!
Incidentally, my ISP currently offers 2.5 Gb symmetrical Internet over fibre and plan to offer 8 Gb soon. My home network is "only" 1 Gb, so even with coax I'm approaching the limit. Here's a speedtest from a couple of days ago. https://www.speedtest.net/result/13265977448
My ISP just gave me an upload increase. Here's the latest. https://www.speedtest.net/result/13273945498
slow day here: https://www.speedtest.net/result/13274017558 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
James Knott wrote:
For years, I have been copying the full ISO to a USB stick for installation. I just realized I should now be using the NET install image, because my Internet speed is faster than USB 2! Until a couple of years ago, my download bandwidth was 75 Mb or less. It's now officially 500 Mb, but actually around 900 Mb. USB 2 tops out 480, assuming appropriate hardware.
More than ten years ago, we switched to fibre at 1Gbit/s. Even before that, at meagre ADSL speeds, I still installed over the net. I wrote one or two articles on how to cache with squid, then I started running our own local mirror. Installing from media, USB or DVD - wow, different era. My current provider is offering 10 and 25Gbit, at the same price. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (23.8°C)
On 2022-06-12 21:54, Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
For years, I have been copying the full ISO to a USB stick for installation. I just realized I should now be using the NET install image, because my Internet speed is faster than USB 2! Until a couple of years ago, my download bandwidth was 75 Mb or less. It's now officially 500 Mb, but actually around 900 Mb. USB 2 tops out 480, assuming appropriate hardware.
More than ten years ago, we switched to fibre at 1Gbit/s. Even before that, at meagre ADSL speeds, I still installed over the net. I wrote one or two articles on how to cache with squid, then I started running our own local mirror.
Installing from media, USB or DVD - wow, different era.
My current provider is offering 10 and 25Gbit, at the same price.
At my current location, I can not install from Internet. My router has a SIM card, so using G4 mobile internet with usually 25% of a signal, capped to 25 GB/month. I do not know the actual speed, but browsing seems slow. So if I were to upgrade (I ain't) I would download the DVD elsewhere and use that. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)
On 2022-06-12 4:03 p.m., Carlos E. R. wrote:
My router has a SIM card, so using G4 mobile internet with usually 25% of a signal, capped to 25 GB/month. I do not know the actual speed, but browsing seems slow.
My ISP provides unlimited data. They also provide excellent IPv6 on both cable and cell networks. I can tether to my cell phone and get IPv6 addresses. My data is also unlimited on the cell phone, but throttled after 15 GB.
So if I were to upgrade (I ain't) I would download the DVD elsewhere and use that.
Yep, I used to do the same. Years ago, I used to work at IBM and had decent Internet (a blazing 45 Mb for about 4000 employees), so I'd burn the CDs at work and bring them home to where I was still on dial up.
On 2022-06-12 22:09, James Knott wrote:
On 2022-06-12 4:03 p.m., Carlos E. R. wrote:
My router has a SIM card, so using G4 mobile internet with usually 25% of a signal, capped to 25 GB/month. I do not know the actual speed, but browsing seems slow.
My ISP provides unlimited data. They also provide excellent IPv6 on both cable and cell networks. I can tether to my cell phone and get IPv6 addresses. My data is also unlimited on the cell phone, but throttled after 15 GB.
Oh, I forget: I am on CG-NAT, my external IP is on 10.*.*.* . No IPv6, of course. This is temporary, I don't live here. I can get ADSL, not fibre, if I want. At home I have symmetrical fibre.
So if I were to upgrade (I ain't) I would download the DVD elsewhere and use that.
Yep, I used to do the same. Years ago, I used to work at IBM and had decent Internet (a blazing 45 Mb for about 4000 employees), so I'd burn the CDs at work and bring them home to where I was still on dial up.
-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.3)
On 2022-06-12 3:54 p.m., Per Jessen wrote:
More than ten years ago, we switched to fibre at 1Gbit/s. Even before that, at meagre ADSL speeds, I still installed over the net. I wrote one or two articles on how to cache with squid, then I started running our own local mirror.
I have put the ISOs on a server and used that with the NET install. However, for years DVD and USB stick were faster than my Internet connection. I just realized this about install speed today, when I updated my ThinkPad and realized it only had USB 2 ports. My desktop has USB 3, but all my USB sticks are only USB 2.
James Knott composed on 2022-06-12 15:36 (UTC-0400):
For years, I have been copying the full ISO to a USB stick for installation. I just realized I should now be using the NET install image, because my Internet speed is faster than USB 2!
NET installations here began with SuSE 8.0, over 20 years ago. NET was and remains my primary method, usually without downloading any .iso or burning anything, by downloading only the installer's linux and initrd and loading them with Grub. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
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