First of all, thank you for all of your responses :) In reply to Richard Brown:

Do you realise that YOU are part of the openSUSE Team also? ;)

The 'open' in 'openSUSE' isn't just there for fun, it's really true - any and every contributor is part of the 'openSUSE Team'.

I have never thought of myself as a "contributor". Some days ago, I was just an openSUSE "user". Now that I said "I'm available, I'm here to help", I'm excited to think that I'm an openSUSE Team member! :-D

The reason we do not do official Leap Live media is because no one has been willing to do the work required to make it fully supportable.

I think Live media are important, I want to do that, now openSUSE has got me! ;-)

All of this work is you can do as part of the openSUSE Project, you do not need to go off and do it on your own.

It's just that I want to do things my way and then contribute back to openSUSE. I imagined working that way: let's say I finished that LiveDVD, it's working, it's functional. Then I would call the openSUSE Project, send my LiveDVD code, and say: "Do you want that? If you think that's useful for the Project, let's work on it to make it official (or integrate it into the existing official)". Maybe the openSUSE Team would add or remove some things, but my version of the LiveDVD would still be there on my website available for download, for those who think it would be more appropriate for their needs. Diversity also strengthens Linux :-) To illustrate what I say: the version of Wine available on the official Leap 42.1 repos is not the newest one. The openSUSE Team decided that was the best version to ship with Leap 42.1 and they did it. Personally, I think the best version of Wine to use is always the latest version, because Wine is kind of a reverse engineering, trial and error project, they evolve every day. So, I would distribute Leap 42.1 with the newest version taken from the Wine OBS project instead: https://github.com/kamarada/kiwi-config-Kamarada/commit/4ed4438409901f938d6f... And I would rebuild that Live image every month or so, to assure everyone downloading it would always use the latest packages available. Note that I include the Update repo on my config.xml file: https://github.com/kamarada/kiwi-config-Kamarada/commit/d58c37448adb521db433... And I always name my ISO images with the date they were built: https://sourceforge.net/projects/kamarada/files/distribution/leap/42.1/iso/o... https://sourceforge.net/projects/kamarada/files/distribution/leap/42.2-Alpha... I've been experimenting with openSUSE, KDE, OBS and KIWI for a while. In the past, I even thought about customizing the whole desktop appearance and launching kind of a spin-off of the openSUSE Linux distribution: https://github.com/kamarada/branding-Kamarada/commits/13.2 https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:kamarada:Playground/branding-Ka... https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858812 I gave it away. It was much work to just one person. Besides that, openSUSE is already very beautiful and complete, there's no much to add. Since Leap 42.1, I decided to spread and contribute to it: https://kamarada.github.io/ But I still want to distribute it someway different than the original, mainly customizing the software selection and some settings, that's why I want to have my own LiveDVD. ^_^

I also know of others who are working on this for Leap 42.2 already.

I want to get in touch with them, let's work together! :-D

Your best bet would be to discuss your progress so far and what next steps on the correct mailinglist - that would be opensuse-factory@opensuse.org

I will do it.

I wrote a blog about this a few months back, might be good reading if you feel you need a little more direction about how to get started as an 'official' contributor - https://rootco.de/2016-04-03-opensuse-and-you/

Thank you for the direction, I'm going to read it!

Thanks for your work so far,

And thank you for the great distro I use for 4 years now! :-D Replying to the rest of you, I've seen you started a discussion about Live USB sticks being distributed (or not) in SUSE events. Well, I can't add much to that discussion, because I've never been to such events, but let me say the cheapest USB stick here in Brazil, which is already enough to store a Live persistent system, is 8GB and it's fairly easy to find by R$ 20,00 (something between $5 and $7). That's the price for the final consumer, which includes importation taxes (we don't make it here), public taxes (one of the higher, if not the highest, in the world) and, of course, the profit of the seller, distributor, manufacturer... so, I believe an USB stick is indeed a cheap technology. I cannot opine, however, if SUSE has conditions of distributing openSUSE in USB sticks during events. Thank you for your attention, Antonio Medeiros The Linux Kamarada Project -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org