[opensuse] HP printer Leap 42.2
My HP D2300 usb printer has worked for many years. It is attached to one of my two pcs and shared between the two. This worked fine up to 13.2 but I cannot get 42.2 to share the printer. Sharing fails in Yast whereas it worked up to 13.2, when I try to sahre it using the CUPS interface I am not offered adminstrator settings (I always used my root password for this hitherto) so cannot change the settings to share the printer. All of this works on Linux Mint 18.1 fwiw. Is there a known fix for this ? M -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
michael norman wrote:
My HP D2300 usb printer has worked for many years. It is attached to one of my two pcs and shared between the two. This worked fine up to 13.2 but I cannot get 42.2 to share the printer.
Share out or share in?
Sharing fails in Yast whereas it worked up to 13.2,
On my Leap422 test clients, I have to go into Yast->Printers and enable the network listening. After that it works - the client then runs a cups-browsed daemon.
Is there a known fix for this ?
I think we'll need some more info about your setup - where is the printer attached etc. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (4.2°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
I have two pcs both attached to a BT router. pc1 is my main box and dual boots 42.2 and Linux Mint 18.1. That one is a Shuttle, about 5 years old but still fully functional. pc2 is an older tower probably about 12 years old but again functional. I use it as a back up machine and because its the most convenient place to put the printer. HP Deskjet 2300 I'd guess about 15 years old but still works fine. It just prints, no scanner or other things and I don't need a wireless printer. In other words its not broken and I like HP's Linux support. That pc has been running 13.2. The procedure you describe works fine in 13.2 but does not work in 42.2. I can set up the printer to print from there but setting up sharing in Yest fails and as I said running the Cups interlace at http://localhost:631/ I cannot change the settings as I cannot get the box that asks for root privilege to change the settings. If I install Linux Mint on that box I can do that but I don't want to dual boot that box or switch it exclusively to Linux Mint. I hope that helps. M On 30/01/17 11:20, Per Jessen wrote:
michael norman wrote:
My HP D2300 usb printer has worked for many years. It is attached to one of my two pcs and shared between the two. This worked fine up to 13.2 but I cannot get 42.2 to share the printer.
Share out or share in?
Sharing fails in Yast whereas it worked up to 13.2,
On my Leap422 test clients, I have to go into Yast->Printers and enable the network listening. After that it works - the client then runs a cups-browsed daemon.
Is there a known fix for this ?
I think we'll need some more info about your setup - where is the printer attached etc.
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Well I took the bite and upgraded from 13.2 all the way to 42.2 as Tumbleweed. For the most part it has gone well, or well enough. I have a few complaints about the look and feel; "Oxygen" isn't the same and the GTK3 took some tweaking to bring back the end arrows on the scroll bars. I haven't figured that for the rest of KDE. But a show-stopper is the printer. It worked fine and was set up with no problems in 13.2 but won't function in 42.2/Tumbleweed. The 5170DN is a postscript printer and I seem to recall reading that the new openSuse standard is for the print system to be PDF based not postscript based. I don't know how to get round that. Well OK I could if this was a pure UNIX SVR2 but it isn't, its CUPS. I also saw mention that the PPD/drivers were 32-bit. The 13.2 system was 64-bit but that worked. OK, so I put back the libstdc++6-32bit and restarted CUPS. Still no joy. I deleted the printers and reinstalled using YAST. This is a network connected printer. From within YAST the test page prints OK, but I then subsequently can't print from any application or use 'lp' to print any page as I once could. ----------------- Considering the postscript/PDF change I've considered :- a) use the print dialogue to save the page as a .ps in /tmp b) use netcat to squirt the .ps to port 515 of the printer. No, that can't be right, surely there's a handshake/dialogue/wrapper? ----------------- Have I been misled? Am I making some wrong assumptions? In the past CUPS and Yast have "just worked" and I've never had any problems. Perhaps I should have stuck with 13.2 despite the EOL. After all, it worked and I had no complaints. I'm not sure that I can roll back not that the various repositories have been deleted. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> [02-28-17 08:11]:
Well I took the bite and upgraded from 13.2 all the way to 42.2 as Tumbleweed. For the most part it has gone well, or well enough.
how did you do that, Tw != 42.2, *completely* different! or does <user> = Tumbleweed. :o} -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/02/17 08:18 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> [02-28-17 08:11]:
Well I took the bite and upgraded from 13.2 all the way to 42.2 as Tumbleweed. For the most part it has gone well, or well enough.
how did you do that, Tw != 42.2, *completely* different! or does <user> = Tumbleweed.
If you're asking what repositories I used, then its a mix, as always. I have some of the KDE Framework and QT5, and those certainly are 422; some media specific. I've locked out some of the Gnome. And of course I have Packman as Tumbleweed but its a bit vacated at the moment :-) Simply put: not all the repositories I use have a "tumbleweed" option. But CUPS itself is from OpenSuse Factory Snapshot Ver 2.1.3 I also have CUPS-backends from same Do you want to ask that as a more specific question? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 28/02/2017 à 14:08, Anton Aylward a écrit :
The 5170DN is a postscript printer and I seem to recall reading that the new openSuse standard is for the print system to be PDF based not postscript based. I don't know how to get round that.
I don't know for your printer, but I just fixed over the phone a printer problem of a friend of mine (his was HP laser color), simply making use of the default cups postscript driver. The simpler the better :-) - on 42.2. jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/02/17 08:40 AM, jdd wrote:
I don't know for your printer, but I just fixed over the phone a printer problem of a friend of mine (his was HP laser color), simply making use of the default cups postscript driver. The simpler the better :-) - on 42.2.
I agree with KISS :-) But I don't see a 'default' Postscript for this model. Where do I look for that? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 28/02/2017 à 15:11, Anton Aylward a écrit :
On 28/02/17 08:40 AM, jdd wrote:
I don't know for your printer, but I just fixed over the phone a printer problem of a friend of mine (his was HP laser color), simply making use of the default cups postscript driver. The simpler the better :-) - on 42.2.
I agree with KISS :-) But I don't see a 'default' Postscript for this model. Where do I look for that?
may be try hp ones? postscript is postscript, not model specific O have two for your printer in my ppd folder (/usr/share/cups/model/OpenPrintingPPDs/postscript/) copied here: http://dodin.org/owncloud/index.php/s/Eot0t3lgLcZ3Z5j jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/02/17 10:56 AM, jdd wrote:
postscript is postscript, not model specific
Well yes, within a 99% match.
O have two for your printer in my ppd folder (/usr/share/cups/model/OpenPrintingPPDs/postscript/)
I already have, therein Brother-HL-5170DN.Postscript-Brother.ppd.gz Brother-HL-5170DN.Postscript.ppd.gz but thank you anyway. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/02/2017 14:08, Anton Aylward wrote:
Well I took the bite and upgraded from 13.2 all the way to 42.2 as Tumbleweed. For the most part it has gone well, or well enough.
But a show-stopper is the printer. It worked fine and was set up with no problems in 13.2 but won't function in 42.2/Tumbleweed.
It is either 42.2 or Tumbleweed. Both, impossible. So, which one do you have? cat /etc/os-release or similar name.
I deleted the printers and reinstalled using YAST. This is a network connected printer. From within YAST the test page prints OK, but I then subsequently can't print from any application or use 'lp' to print any page as I once could.
Is CUPS started? After my upgrade from 13.1 to 42.2 cups would not start automatically. IIRC there was an extra .socket file that had to be deleted and reboot. -- Saludos/Cheers, Carlos E.R. (Minas-Morgul - W10) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/02/17 08:50 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
It is either 42.2 or Tumbleweed. Both, impossible. So, which one do you have?
cat /etc/os-release or similar name.
# cat /etc/os-release NAME="openSUSE Tumbleweed" # VERSION="20170219" ID=opensuse ID_LIKE="suse" VERSION_ID="20170219" But as I said in my reply to Patrick, not all the repositories I use have a 'Tumbeweed' -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-02-28 15:14, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 28/02/17 08:50 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
It is either 42.2 or Tumbleweed. Both, impossible. So, which one do you have?
cat /etc/os-release or similar name.
# cat /etc/os-release NAME="openSUSE Tumbleweed" # VERSION="20170219" ID=opensuse ID_LIKE="suse" VERSION_ID="20170219"
But as I said in my reply to Patrick, not all the repositories I use have a 'Tumbeweed'
You should use only Tumbleweed repos, none from 42.2. You don't say anything about the cups service being running or not. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
On 28/02/17 09:26 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
You should use only Tumbleweed repos, none from 42.2.
Yah! Bull! I never did with any previous revision when people told me that. There are plenty of other repositories with specialized applications - my main one is photography - where the developers are way ahead of anything Suse offers!
You don't say anything about the cups service being running or not.
Rereading my OP I thought I made it clear that I was using CUPS. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-02-28 15:32, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 28/02/17 09:26 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
You should use only Tumbleweed repos, none from 42.2.
Yah! Bull! I never did with any previous revision when people told me that. There are plenty of other repositories with specialized applications - my main one is photography - where the developers are way ahead of anything Suse offers!
Yes do use all the repos you wish, but use the TW version.
You don't say anything about the cups service being running or not.
Rereading my OP I thought I made it clear that I was using CUPS.
I repeat: IS THE SERVICE STARTED? IS IT RUNNING? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
On 28/02/17 09:36 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Yes do use all the repos you wish, but use the TW version.
... except where there isn't one ...
You don't say anything about the cups service being running or not. Rereading my OP I thought I made it clear that I was using CUPS. I repeat: IS THE SERVICE STARTED? IS IT RUNNING?
Yes. How else could I have printed the test page? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-02-28 16:35, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 28/02/17 09:36 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Yes do use all the repos you wish, but use the TW version.
... except where there isn't one ...
You don't say anything about the cups service being running or not. Rereading my OP I thought I made it clear that I was using CUPS. I repeat: IS THE SERVICE STARTED? IS IT RUNNING?
Yes. How else could I have printed the test page?
Because it could have stopped later. Happened to me. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Anton Aylward <opensuse@antonaylward.com> wrote:
On 28/02/17 09:26 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
You should use only Tumbleweed repos, none from 42.2.
Yah! Bull! I never did with any previous revision when people told me that. There are plenty of other repositories with specialized applications - my main one is photography - where the developers are way ahead of anything Suse offers!
Then get them to add Tumbleweed as a build target. It's just a few clicks for them to do. If they have no Tumbleweed consumers they shouldn't build for Tumbleweed, but even one consumer (you) justifies it in my mind.
You don't say anything about the cups service being running or not.
Rereading my OP I thought I made it clear that I was using CUPS.
He saying there is a bug in CUPS where you enable it via Yast, but it doesn't run. He wants you to verify the service is actually running, as opposed to selected. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/02/17 09:40 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
You don't say anything about the cups service being running or not. Rereading my OP I thought I made it clear that I was using CUPS. He saying there is a bug in CUPS where you enable it via Yast, but it doesn't run.
He wants you to verify the service is actually running, as opposed to selected.
# ps -ef | grep cups root 1621 1 0 10:24 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd -l root 1683 1 0 10:24 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/cups-browsed root 3645 3506 0 10:36 pts/2 00:00:00 grep --color=auto cups # systemctl status cups.service ● cups.service - CUPS Scheduler Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/cups.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2017-02-28 10:24:45 EST; 13min ago Docs: man:cupsd(8) Main PID: 1621 (cupsd) Status: "Scheduler is running..." Tasks: 2 (limit: 4915) CGroup: /system.slice/cups.service └─1621 /usr/sbin/cupsd -l Feb 28 10:24:38 Mainbox systemd[1]: Starting CUPS Scheduler... Feb 28 10:24:45 Mainbox systemd[1]: Started CUPS Scheduler. # systemctl status cups-browsed.service ● cups-browsed.service - Make remote CUPS printers available locally Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/cups-browsed.service; enabled; vendor preset: disabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2017-02-28 10:24:45 EST; 13min ago Main PID: 1683 (cups-browsed) Tasks: 3 (limit: 4915) CGroup: /system.slice/cups-browsed.service └─1683 /usr/sbin/cups-browsed Feb 28 10:24:45 Mainbox systemd[1]: Started Make remote CUPS printers available locally. Can we please move one past this to the actual problem, PLEASE! -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward composed on 2017-02-28 08:08 (UTC-0500):
Well I took the bite and upgraded from 13.2 all the way to 42.2 as Tumbleweed. For the most part it has gone well, or well enough.
In one jump from 13.2 to TW? Stopover in 42.2 on the way to TW? Offline, or with zypper?
I have a few complaints about the look and feel; "Oxygen" isn't the same and the GTK3 took some tweaking to bring back the end arrows on the scroll bars. I haven't figured that for the rest of KDE.
Please provide specifics for restoring the end arrows. Firefox 46 & up (built with GTK3) and SeaMonkey >2.40 are unusable here because those are missing.
But a show-stopper is the printer. It worked fine and was set up with no problems in 13.2 but won't function in 42.2/Tumbleweed.
The 5170DN is a postscript printer and I seem to recall reading that the new openSuse standard is for the print system to be PDF based not postscript based. I don't know how to get round that.
Well OK I could if this was a pure UNIX SVR2 but it isn't, its CUPS.
I also saw mention that the PPD/drivers were 32-bit. The 13.2 system was 64-bit but that worked. OK, so I put back the libstdc++6-32bit and restarted CUPS.
Still no joy.
I deleted the printers and reinstalled using YAST. This is a network connected printer. From within YAST the test page prints OK, but I then subsequently can't print from any application or use 'lp' to print any page as I once could.
----------------- Considering the postscript/PDF change I've considered :- a) use the print dialogue to save the page as a .ps in /tmp b) use netcat to squirt the .ps to port 515 of the printer.
No, that can't be right, surely there's a handshake/dialogue/wrapper? -----------------
Have I been misled? Am I making some wrong assumptions? In the past CUPS and Yast have "just worked" and I've never had any problems. Perhaps I should have stuck with 13.2 despite the EOL. After all, it worked and I had no complaints. I'm not sure that I can roll back not that the various repositories have been deleted.
I haven't tried printer setup on any 42.2 installations, and don't remember anything about printer setup on any of my TW installations, even if I did any. I don't print much. But ethernet printing works fine here on 42.1 with my HL-5470DN using the 32-bit software and instructions from Brother's web site: # rpm -qa | sort | egrep 'hl5|cups' cups-1.7.5-7.1.x86_64 cups-client-1.7.5-7.1.x86_64 cups-filters-1.0.58-12.1.x86_64 cups-filters-cups-browsed-1.0.58-12.1.x86_64 cups-filters-foomatic-rip-1.0.58-12.1.x86_64 cups-filters-ghostscript-1.0.58-12.1.x86_64 cups-libs-1.7.5-7.1.x86_64 cups-pk-helper-0.2.5-5.1.x86_64 cups-pk-helper-lang-0.2.5-5.1.noarch hl5470dwcupswrapper-3.0.0-1.i386 hl5470dwlpr-3.0.0-1.i386 python-cups-1.9.72-2.2.x86_64 python-cupshelpers-1.5.7-3.6.noarch python3-cups-1.9.72-3.2.x86_64 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/02/17 09:41 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
Please provide specifics for restoring the end arrows. Firefox 46 & up (built with GTK3) and SeaMonkey >2.40 are unusable here because those are missing.
I found that with some (creative) googleing. Add to the usedef/css: $ cat ./.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css *{ -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1; -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1; -GtkRange-slider-width: 13; -GtkRange-stepper-size: 13; } You'll need to restart FF/TB. There are probably other places you can add that. YMMV but that seems global for GTK3. The "*" is more global than any side panel etc etc etc. I'm still trying to find out how to add it back to the KDE. Why oh why do the developers think that taking them out somehow added to usability? -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward composed on 2017-02-28 10:50 (UTC-0500):
Felix Miata wrote:
Please provide specifics for restoring the end arrows. Firefox 46 & up (built with GTK3) and SeaMonkey >2.40 are unusable here because those are missing.
I found that with some (creative) googleing.
Add to the usedef/css:
"Usedef"?
$ cat ./.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css *{ -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1; -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1; -GtkRange-slider-width: 13; -GtkRange-stepper-size: 13; }
Merci beaucoup!
You'll need to restart FF/TB.
There are probably other places you can add that. YMMV but that seems global for GTK3.
"Global" would be someplace in /usr/local/ or /etc/ instead of ~/, easier to spread across a fleet of installations and users. It's what I would like but have had no luck locating. Any chance you can provide the URI that gave you your more localized answer?
The "*" is more global than any side panel etc etc etc.
I'm still trying to find out how to add it back to the KDE.
Why oh why do the developers think that taking them out somehow added to usability?
Isn't newer always a better idea? :-p Have you tried clicking within the GTK3 scroll area yet? You might want this: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Ui.scrollToClick If you think missing arrows or spot sensitive scroll clicks are GTK3 regressions, try switching to and from a HiDPI display in KDE or TDE (all about shrunken UI fonts, and open or WONTFIX): https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757142 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367499 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1269274 https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1022830 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1420743 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata composed on 2017-02-28 16:30 (UTC-0500):
Anton Aylward composed on 2017-02-28 10:50 (UTC-0500):
Felix Miata wrote:
Please provide specifics for restoring the end arrows. Firefox 46 & up (built with GTK3) and SeaMonkey >2.40 are unusable here because those are missing.
I found that with some (creative) googleing.
Add to the usedef/css:
"Usedef"?
$ cat ./.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css *{ -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1; -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1; -GtkRange-slider-width: 13; -GtkRange-stepper-size: 13; }
Merci beaucoup!
After finding and reading https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkScrollbar.html mine morphed into this: *{ -GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1; -GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1; -GtkScrollbar-has-secondary-backward-stepper: 1; -GtkRange-stepper-size: 16; }
You'll need to restart FF/TB.
There are probably other places you can add that. YMMV but that seems global for GTK3.
"Global" would be someplace in /usr/local/ or /etc/ instead of ~/, easier to spread across a fleet of installations and users. It's what I would like but have had no luck locating. Any chance you can provide the URI that gave you your more localized answer?
Still looking.... -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/02/17 09:41 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
I haven't tried printer setup on any 42.2 installations, and don't remember anything about printer setup on any of my TW installations, even if I did any. I don't print much. But ethernet printing works fine here on 42.1 with my HL-5470DN using the 32-bit software and instructions from Brother's web site:
Its a nice printer. I got a great deal on refills and a new drum a couple of yeas back and am still working my way through the closet full of cartridges and the original drum is still doing fine. Brother makes good printers :-)
# rpm -qa | sort | egrep 'hl5|cups' cups-1.7.5-7.1.x86_64
cups-2.1.3-3.1.x86_64
cups-client-1.7.5-7.1.x86_64
cups-backends-1.1-4.2.noarch cups-client-2.1.3-3.1.x86_64
cups-filters-1.0.58-12.1.x86_64
cups-filters-1.13.3-1.1.x86_64
cups-filters-cups-browsed-1.0.58-12.1.x86_64
cups-filters-cups-browsed-1.13.3-1.1.x86_64
cups-filters-foomatic-rip-1.0.58-12.1.x86_64 cups-filters-ghostscript-1.0.58-12.1.x86_64
cups-filters-foomatic-rip-1.13.3-1.1.x86_64 cups-filters-ghostscript-1.13.3-1.1.x86_64
cups-libs-1.7.5-7.1.x86_64
cups-libs-2.1.3-3.1.x86_64 but also cups-pdf-3.0.0-1.1.x86_64
cups-pk-helper-0.2.5-5.1.x86_64 cups-pk-helper-lang-0.2.5-5.1.noarch
cups-pk-helper-0.2.6-1.5.x86_64 python3-cups-1.9.72-1.8.x86_64 python3-cupshelpers-1.5.7-9.4.noarch
hl5470dwcupswrapper-3.0.0-1.i386 hl5470dwlpr-3.0.0-1.i386
Where do those come from? The CD? Oh, right: http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=hl5170dn_all
python-cups-1.9.72-2.2.x86_64 python-cupshelpers-1.5.7-3.6.noarch python3-cups-1.9.72-3.2.x86_64
python3-cups-1.9.72-1.8.x86_64 python3-cupshelpers-1.5.7-9.4.noarch .... to be continued after experimentation ... -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/02/17 11:45 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
.... to be continued after experimentation ...
Well that was marginally more fun than trying to give a cat a pill, but about the same level of frustration. I did, however manage to do this without getting my hands clawed and blood all over the carpet, so there is that. Mind you, openSUSE doesn't purr-rr-rr-rr. So I searched out the Bother site and downloaded a program called linux-brprinter-installer-2.1.1-1 which is a humongous shell script. That brought in hl5170dnlpr-1.1.2-1.i386.rpm cupswrapperHL5170DN-1.0.2-1.i386.rpm and asked me what mechanism I wanted. I chose socket:<ip address of printer on the LAN> Next time round I might try something else, IPP, LPD, whatever. It then tweaked CUPS and I had a new printer. The test page seemed to pay not attention the 8x11 even though it said on the print out that it did, I had to manually feed a sheet. I think it wanted something longer, 8x17? I then printed a single web page. It worked. BUT, and this is a killing BUT .... the status says Idle - "Waiting for printer to finish." So I flutz around. Other than restarting CUPS or deleting the printer it insists on that and won't print any more. Not even if I set up another printer. I think the problem lies in CUPS. My highly developed spider sense leads me to suspect that. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 28/02/2017 à 20:43, Anton Aylward a écrit :
I chose socket:<ip address of printer on the LAN>
it's the best option. I don't remember if one need to add the :9100, only that one of the two options (adding or don't) prevent it to work
I think the problem lies in CUPS. My highly developed spider sense leads me to suspect that.
I always use localhost:6100 (cups) to make the config. I read at a moment here than the yast module is no more maintained and anyway it's worst than cups. I mean after having used the brother script you also can do some setups there jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/02/17 02:43 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Idle - "Waiting for printer to finish."
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I think the problem lies in CUPS. My highly developed spider sense leads me to suspect that.
Well I've downgraded to ver 1.7 That didn't fix it. I think the threshold is at 1.6 so I'm going to try 1.5 next -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward composed on 2017-02-28 14:43 (UTC-0500): ...
BUT, and this is a killing BUT .... the status says
Idle - "Waiting for printer to finish."...
Check if /etc/papersize exists. Try making one if it doesn't. Mine is 7 bytes containing letter\n. If using Plasma, check in systemsettings5 >> (region/locale) to see if (like KDE3) it has its own paper format setting somewhere set appropriately. I looked and don't see one, but I'm not sure the whole list of possibilities is populated. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/02/17 03:33 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
Anton Aylward composed on 2017-02-28 14:43 (UTC-0500): ...
BUT, and this is a killing BUT .... the status says
Idle - "Waiting for printer to finish."...
Check if /etc/papersize exists. Try making one if it doesn't. Mine is 7 bytes containing letter\n.
Done.
If using Plasma, check in systemsettings5 >> (region/locale) to see if (like KDE3) it has its own paper format setting somewhere set appropriately. I looked and don't see one, but I'm not sure the whole list of possibilities is populated.
I don't see one. I can, now I drill down, do that within CUPS. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/02/17 19:43, Anton Aylward wrote:
BUT, and this is a killing BUT .... the status says
Idle - "Waiting for printer to finish."
So I flutz around. Other than restarting CUPS or deleting the printer it insists on that and won't print any more. Not even if I set up another printer.
This is the standard state for my HP printer. Indeed, it seems normal for most of them. ime this is totally harmless - ymmv. Cheers, Wol -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-02-28 22:12, Wols Lists wrote:
On 28/02/17 19:43, Anton Aylward wrote:
BUT, and this is a killing BUT .... the status says
Idle - "Waiting for printer to finish."
So I flutz around. Other than restarting CUPS or deleting the printer it insists on that and won't print any more. Not even if I set up another printer.
This is the standard state for my HP printer. Indeed, it seems normal for most of them. ime this is totally harmless - ymmv.
Yes, I get some other funny state. But in his case, he says that he can not print again. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
On 2017-02-28 17:45, Anton Aylward wrote:
Its a nice printer. I got a great deal on refills and a new drum a couple of yeas back and am still working my way through the closet full of cartridges and the original drum is still doing fine. Brother makes good printers :-)
But little Linux support, as you can see. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
Carlos E. R. composed on 2017-02-28 23:51 (UTC+0100):
Anton Aylward wrote:
Its a nice printer. I got a great deal on refills and a new drum a couple of yeas back and am still working my way through the closet full of cartridges and the original drum is still doing fine. Brother makes good printers :-)
But little Linux support, as you can see.
Better than Canon, and unlike HP, offers compatibility with legacy applications via Epson printer languages without having to buy an Epson inkjet. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 2017-02-28 17:45, Anton Aylward wrote:
Its a nice printer. I got a great deal on refills and a new drum a couple of yeas back and am still working my way through the closet full of cartridges and the original drum is still doing fine. Brother makes good printers :-)
But little Linux support, as you can see.
I just bought one for a Windows/Mac shop. So far I'm not impressed in the Windows environment either. It does seem to work well with Macs. fyi: In Windows it is really slow and the duplex mode doesn't print with the text flipped on the long edge. Very annoying. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 28/02/17 11:45 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:
.... to be continued after experimentation ...
Well now I have # rpm -qa | sort | egrep 'hl5|cups' cups-pdf-3.0.0-1.1.x86_64 cups-pk-helper-0.2.6-1.5.x86_64 cups154-1.5.4-3.57.x86_64 cups154-client-1.5.4-3.57.x86_64 cups154-filters-1.5.4-3.57.x86_64 cups154-libs-1.5.4-3.57.x86_64 cupswrapperHL5170DN-1.0.2-1.i386 hl5170dnlpr-1.1.2-1.i386 python3-cups-1.9.72-1.8.x86_64 python3-cupshelpers-1.5.7-9.4.noarch but there are some side effects. 1. SMB daemon won't start. It wants a later libcups.so.2 That took a few steps to uncover, thanks for 'ldd'. 2. When I try to print from Firefox firefox crashes. I'm going to see if I can find cups-1-7 OK, now I have rpm -qa |# rpm -qa | sort | egrep 'hl5|cups' cups-1.7.5-7.10.x86_64 cups-backends-1.1-4.2.noarch cups-client-1.7.5-7.10.x86_64 cups-filters-1.8.2-1.5.x86_64 cups-filters-cups-browsed-1.8.2-1.5.x86_64 cups-filters-foomatic-rip-1.8.2-1.5.x86_64 cups-filters-ghostscript-1.8.2-1.5.x86_64 cups-libs-1.7.5-7.10.x86_64 cups-pdf-3.0.0-1.1.x86_64 cups-pk-helper-0.2.6-1.5.x86_64 cupswrapperHL5170DN-1.0.2-1.i386 hl5170dnlpr-1.1.2-1.i386 python3-cups-1.9.72-1.8.x86_64 python3-cupshelpers-1.5.7-9.4.noarch and poppler was brought in as well. Ok Now the Samba SMB Daemon start OK. and FF doesn't crash. Well that seems to be working. I've locked in at the 1.7.5 Thanks, guys. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward composed on 2017-02-28 08:08 (UTC-0500): ...
The 5170DN is a postscript printer and I seem to recall reading that the new openSuse standard is for the print system to be PDF based not postscript based. I don't know how to get round that. ... I deleted the printers and reinstalled using YAST. This is a network connected printer. From within YAST the test page prints OK, but I then subsequently can't print from any application or use 'lp' to print any page as I once could. ..
I now remember having this same problem on multiple machines. Searching my email archive I see the thread with first of the following most likely to be of any potential use to you: https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2016-01/msg00318.html https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2016-01/msg00071.html https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2016-01/msg00119.html https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2015-06/msg00324.html -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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