Strange mail error message from this list

Jie Li

5 May 2005 5 May '05

13:45

I sent one email to this list yestoday and got a mail error notice in my mailbox today. Seems that I sent the email to an expired address and the got rejected. but I only sent the email to this list NOT to this address:! Is this normal? as I understand, I sent msg to this list and the server will forward my msg to everyone. that means, any msg sent to this server will be forwarded to this unvalid address and a error notice will be sent back. Is it? The notice i got is: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ The original message was received at 2005-05-05 12:23:02 +0100 from postoffice.armilan [10.0.0.1] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- -----Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to postoffice.armilan.:

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RCPT To: <<< 550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: armisis@dsl.pipex.com 550 ... User unknown

Final-Recipient: RFC822; armisis@dsl.pipex.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; postoffice.armilan Diagnostic-Code: SMTP;550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: armisis@dsl.pipex.com Last-Attempt-Date: 2005-05-05 12:23:02 +0100 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jie Li To: SuSE-Linux-E@suse.com Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 23:11:28 +0200 Subject: [SLE] Which version of 9.3 should I download Newbee question Which ISO should I download for my laptop (Intel Celeron 2.0G, Acer TravelMat 240) SL-9.3-LiveDVD-amd64-1.iso 15-Apr-2005 16:48 1.4G SL-9.3-LiveDVD-i386-1.iso 15-Apr-2005 17:31 1.4G Thanks -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com a

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Jie Li

5 May 5 May

13:47

OMG! I got another notive just know. it's the undelivery notice of a msg i sent on April 4! Here it is: The original message was received at 2005-05-05 12:20:52 +0100 from postoffice.armilan [10.0.0.1] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- -----Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to postoffice.armilan.:

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RCPT To: <<< 550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: armisis@dsl.pipex.com 550 ... User unknown

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I sent one email to this list yestoday and got a mail error notice in my mailbox today. Seems that I sent the email to an expired address and the got rejected. but I only sent the email to this list NOT to this address:! Is this normal? as I understand, I sent msg to this list and the server will forward my msg to everyone. that means, any msg sent to this server will be forwarded to this unvalid address and a error notice will be sent back. Is it?

The notice i got is: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ The original message was received at 2005-05-05 12:23:02 +0100 from postoffice.armilan [10.0.0.1]

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----

-----Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to postoffice.armilan.:

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RCPT To: <<< 550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: armisis@dsl.pipex.com 550 ... User unknown

Final-Recipient: RFC822; armisis@dsl.pipex.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; postoffice.armilan Diagnostic-Code: SMTP;550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: armisis@dsl.pipex.com Last-Attempt-Date: 2005-05-05 12:23:02 +0100

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jie Li To: SuSE-Linux-E@suse.com Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 23:11:28 +0200 Subject: [SLE] Which version of 9.3 should I download Newbee question Which ISO should I download for my laptop (Intel Celeron 2.0G, Acer TravelMat 240)

SL-9.3-LiveDVD-amd64-1.iso 15-Apr-2005 16:48 1.4G SL-9.3-LiveDVD-i386-1.iso 15-Apr-2005 17:31 1.4G

Thanks

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Theo v. Werkhoven

14:00

New subject: [SLE] Re: Strange mail error message from this list

Thu, 05 May 2005, by lijie0210@gmail.com:

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OMG! I got another notive just know. it's the undelivery notice of a msg i sent on April 4!

No need to get so exited and clutter the list with this blahblah. We all get them, just blacklist pipex.com and be doen with it. Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 9.2 + Jabber: muadib@jabber.xs4all.nl Kernel 2.6.8 + See headers for PGP/GPG info. Claimer: any email I receive will become my property. Disclaimers do not apply.

Hamish

14:52

New subject: [SLE] Re: Strange mail error message from this list

On Thursday 05 May 2005 15:00, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:

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just blacklist pipex.com and be doen with it.

Pipex is an ISP, so you will be blocking all their subscribers, this is not a good way to do this. If you want to blacklist just that address, maybe its a better idea! Its obvious there was an error, i got a load this morning as well, but blacklisting will eventually shrink the amount of mail you get from the list. What if a subscriber at pipex.com knows the answer to your question? Cheers, H

Theo v. Werkhoven

20:32

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Thu, 05 May 2005, by lists@subvs.co.uk:

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On Thursday 05 May 2005 15:00, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:

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just blacklist pipex.com and be doen with it.

Pipex is an ISP, so you will be blocking all their subscribers, this is not a good way to do this. If you want to blacklist just that address, maybe its a better idea! Its obvious there was an error, i got a load this morning as well, but blacklisting will eventually shrink the amount of mail you get from the list. What if a subscriber at pipex.com knows the answer to your question?

Tuff luck. I'm not going to bother with specially written header_checks or SA rules or such for this blatend lack of clueination. I'v blacklisted 62.241.163.0/24 btw, not all of pipex. Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 9.2 + Jabber: muadib@jabber.xs4all.nl Kernel 2.6.8 + See headers for PGP/GPG info. Claimer: any email I receive will become my property. Disclaimers do not apply.

Carlos E. R.

14:55

New subject: [SLE] Re: Strange mail error message from this list

The Thursday 2005-05-05 at 15:47 +0200, Jie Li wrote:

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OMG! I got another notive just know. it's the undelivery notice of a msg i sent on April 4!

Here it is:

No, thankyou, you can keep it. Hah, if you want, I can forward you over 300 I got, so you can make statistiscal analysis on them. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

C. Richard Matson

15:18

New subject: [SLE] Re: Strange mail error message from this list

On Thursday May 5 2005 7:55 am, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Thursday 2005-05-05 at 15:47 +0200, Jie Li wrote:

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OMG! I got another notive just know. it's the undelivery notice of a msg i sent on April 4!

Here it is:

No, thankyou, you can keep it. Hah, if you want, I can forward you over 300 I got, so you can make statistiscal analysis on them.

-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

I got a bunch, one from back in February. The ISP must have just woke up to the fact that e-mail is no longer valid. Maybe the list maintainer can remove the address from the list. Rich -- Rich Matson Reno, Nv. USA

Sandy Drobic

15:28

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C. Richard Matson wrote:

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I got a bunch, one from back in February. The ISP must have just woke up to the fact that e-mail is no longer valid. Maybe the list maintainer can remove the address from the list. Rich

I think the list owner has already received more than one request to do so, I know of at least one other aside from my own. The mailserver admin probably only noticed this morning that his mailserver had a seriously packed queue and tried to flush all of them. (^-^) Sandy

Martin Deppe

16:31

New subject: [SLE] Re: Strange mail error message from this list

Sandy Drobic wrote:

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C. Richard Matson wrote:

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I got a bunch, one from back in February. The ISP must have just woke up to the fact that e-mail is no longer valid. Maybe the list maintainer can remove the address from the list. Rich

I think the list owner has already received more than one request to do so, I know of at least one other aside from my own. The mailserver admin probably only noticed this morning that his mailserver had a seriously packed queue and tried to flush all of them. (^-^)

Sandy

Yeah, yesterday I got 5 of them, today at about 12:00 I got another 6 and just 20 minutes ago I got another 33 of them. And I sent two eMails to suse-linux-e-owner@suse.com already. Martin

Anders Johansson

16:38

New subject: [SLE] Re: Strange mail error message from this list

On Thursday 05 May 2005 18:31, Martin Deppe wrote:

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And I sent two eMails to suse-linux-e-owner@suse.com already.

Note that there is little he can do about the mail you get now. They were sent months ago. Even if SLE-owner removes the address now, you may still get the mail for another month or two. Only the sending mail server admin can stop those

Carlos E. R.

18:56

New subject: [SLE] Re: Strange mail error message from this list

The Thursday 2005-05-05 at 18:38 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:

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And I sent two eMails to suse-linux-e-owner suse.com already.

Note that there is little he can do about the mail you get now. They were sent months ago. Even if SLE-owner removes the address now, you may still get the mail for another month or two. Only the sending mail server admin can stop those

That's true. But he can stop new ones from queuing, and being sent to us in August. And he may know what the real address is that got subscribed, I can't. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson

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