[opensuse] Windows keys with Linux
My last windows free keyboard went out of service. Bought me a new keyboard with some windows (2) keys on it. I am Windows free since Windows 3 and have no idea how they are named. I want to use them and are looking for ideas. Does any of you are making use of these keys and for what? -- Linux User 183145 using LXDE and KDE4 on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 11.4 (i586) Kernel: 3.2.0-rc3-4-desktop LXDE WM & KDE Development Platform: 4.7.3 (4.7.3) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:48:38 +0530, C. van Nidek
My last windows free keyboard went out of service. Bought me a new keyboard with some windows (2) keys on it. I am Windows free since Windows 3 and have no idea how they are named. I want to use them and are looking for ideas. Does any of you are making use of these keys and for what?
you didn't say what DE you're using, if any. in KDE, i'm using these keys via systemsettings -> shortcuts & gestures. there you can assign keyboard shortcuts to your own custom actions, or global or application ones. this comes with an input identifier which (at least in my case, for my keyboard) identifies those "window keys" correctly. there's a generic X utility for this too, but i forgot it's name :( -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/17/2011 12:18 AM, C. van Nidek wrote:
My last windows free keyboard went out of service. Bought me a new keyboard with some windows (2) keys on it. I am Windows free since Windows 3 and have no idea how they are named. I want to use them and are looking for ideas. Does any of you are making use of these keys and for what?
Many people use the right Windows key (whatever it's called) to be a Compose key. Those of us who are lucky enough to have an IBM model M keyboard from way back when--they never die!--must use something else. (I use the right CTRL.) If you don't know about the Compose key, I direct you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key You can set up the Compose key in most any Linux, and you can get the same effect in Windows from a freebie called AllChars. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* C. van Nidek
My last windows free keyboard went out of service. Bought me a new keyboard with some windows (2) keys on it. I am Windows free since Windows 3 and have no idea how they are named. I want to use them and are looking for ideas. Does any of you are making use of these keys and for what?
the app that will show you the the key-codes is: xev -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/16/2011 9:18 PM, C. van Nidek wrote:
My last windows free keyboard went out of service. Bought me a new keyboard with some windows (2) keys on it. I am Windows free since Windows 3 and have no idea how they are named. I want to use them and are looking for ideas. Does any of you are making use of these keys and for what?
First make sure you have to do anything. Maybe they work? On Kubuntu, the Windows Menu key just worked out of the box to pop up the context menu (at least on the desktop and several other KDE apps.) The Windows key (one with windows logo) did nothing. (Couldn't test this on OpenSuse because I don't have those keys on that machine). -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
It would appear that on Dec 17, John Andersen did say:
On 12/16/2011 9:18 PM, C. van Nidek wrote:
My last windows free keyboard went out of service. Bought me a new keyboard with some windows (2) keys on it. I am Windows free since Windows 3 and have no idea how they are named. I want to use them and are looking for ideas. Does any of you are making use of these keys and for what?
Ok well first let me apologize that I missed your original posting. But considering that my daughter was in a car crash on the morning of the 17th I can't be surprised that i likely deleted a few things blindly. (the good news there is that she is off the ventilator and it looks like she's going to make a full recovery. Anyway, now that I can again think, see below for more about those windows keys...
First make sure you have to do anything. Maybe they work? On Kubuntu, the Windows Menu key just worked out of the box to pop up the context menu (at least on the desktop and several other KDE apps.) The Windows key (one with windows logo) did nothing.
Now, (I think) we are talking about two different keys. The key(s) I know
as "Windows" keys are the ones with the windows logo on them. And then
there is a "menu" key, which tends to be in between the right alt and the
right ctrl keys. And is marked with a graphic that appears to be a box with
horizontal lines (with one or more appearing to be hi-lighted) and an arrow
pointed at the hi-lighted portion...
But I believe it was the Windows (logo) keys that 'C. van Nidek' was asking
about. And how they work depend on both the distribution and the Desktop
Environment or Window manager involved. According to what I've read, the
windows keys may be listed as "Win", "Meta", "Super_L", or "mod4". I forget
which name is used in kde and xfce, but E17 calls it "Win".
There are those who want these keys to work the same way in linux as in
windows so that when pressed {by itself} the main menu for the Desktop
Environment {or Window Manager} opens. While others {like me} prefer to use
them as modifier keys similar to ctrl and alt. Allowing <win>+<A> to be
assigned to a different function than <win>+<B>... It's been awhile since
I've seen the actual windows keys act like they were hard coded to open the
menu. (I think there used to be a file that I used to have to delete. But
that was back when I used kde3 and I forget the name of the file...
I don't spend much time in kde4, but last time I checked, their global
shortcuts settings tool recognized the win keys as modifiers, as did the
ones in xfce and Enlightenment.
I do remember that like E17 both kde and xfce has in the gui tool used to set
a shortcut, a step where you can type the shortcut you want to assign to a
function. I remember that with kde you selected the function from a list and
clicked on the shortcut currently assigned to it (or the blank field if there
wasn't one) which would expand the line to exclude links/buttons for default and
custom shortcuts. You clicked on the button and then typed the shortcut. With
E17 you click on the button to add a new "binding" then select a function from
the scrollable list and apply changes. Xfce had something similar. In all
three cases I simply held down the win key and pressed a regular key, and the
gui plugged in the shortcut.
This worked the same way on both my desktop and my laptop, using OpenSuSE,
Arch, Xubuntu, PCLinuxOS, & Sabayon linux.
Hope this helps.
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On 12/20/2011 07:34 AM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
It would appear that on Dec 17, John Andersen did say:
On 12/16/2011 9:18 PM, C. van Nidek wrote:
My last windows free keyboard went out of service. Bought me a new keyboard with some windows (2) keys on it. I am Windows free since Windows 3 and have no idea how they are named. I want to use them and are looking for ideas. Does any of you are making use of these keys and for what?
Ok well first let me apologize that I missed your original posting. But considering that my daughter was in a car crash on the morning of the 17th I can't be surprised that i likely deleted a few things blindly. (the good news there is that she is off the ventilator and it looks like she's going to make a full recovery. Anyway, now that I can again think, see below for more about those windows keys...
First make sure you have to do anything. Maybe they work? On Kubuntu, the Windows Menu key just worked out of the box to pop up the context menu (at least on the desktop and several other KDE apps.) The Windows key (one with windows logo) did nothing.
Now, (I think) we are talking about two different keys. The key(s) I know as "Windows" keys are the ones with the windows logo on them. And then there is a "menu" key, which tends to be in between the right alt and the right ctrl keys. And is marked with a graphic that appears to be a box with horizontal lines (with one or more appearing to be hi-lighted) and an arrow pointed at the hi-lighted portion...
But I believe it was the Windows (logo) keys that 'C. van Nidek' was asking about. And how they work depend on both the distribution and the Desktop Environment or Window manager involved. According to what I've read, the windows keys may be listed as "Win", "Meta", "Super_L", or "mod4". I forget which name is used in kde and xfce, but E17 calls it "Win".
There are those who want these keys to work the same way in linux as in windows so that when pressed {by itself} the main menu for the Desktop Environment {or Window Manager} opens. While others {like me} prefer to use them as modifier keys similar to ctrl and alt. Allowing<win>+<A> to be assigned to a different function than<win>+<B>... It's been awhile since I've seen the actual windows keys act like they were hard coded to open the menu. (I think there used to be a file that I used to have to delete. But that was back when I used kde3 and I forget the name of the file...
I don't spend much time in kde4, but last time I checked, their global shortcuts settings tool recognized the win keys as modifiers, as did the ones in xfce and Enlightenment.
I do remember that like E17 both kde and xfce has in the gui tool used to set a shortcut, a step where you can type the shortcut you want to assign to a function. I remember that with kde you selected the function from a list and clicked on the shortcut currently assigned to it (or the blank field if there wasn't one) which would expand the line to exclude links/buttons for default and custom shortcuts. You clicked on the button and then typed the shortcut. With E17 you click on the button to add a new "binding" then select a function from the scrollable list and apply changes. Xfce had something similar. In all three cases I simply held down the win key and pressed a regular key, and the gui plugged in the shortcut.
This worked the same way on both my desktop and my laptop, using OpenSuSE, Arch, Xubuntu, PCLinuxOS,& Sabayon linux.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for all the input. And Joe, all the best with your daughter -- Linux User 183145 using LXDE and KDE4 on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 11.4 (i586) Kernel: 3.2.0-rc4-6-desktop playing with 12.1 LXDE WM & KDE Development Platform: 4.7.4 (4.7.4) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
It would appear that on Dec 20, C. van Nidek did say:
On 12/20/2011 07:34 AM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
With E17 you click on the button to add a new "binding" then select a function from the scrollable list and apply changes.
Slight correction... I forgot to mention that with E17 you "type the shortcut" right after clicking on the add binding button...
Thanks for all the input. And Joe, all the best with your daughter
Your welcome. And thanks! The good news is even better tonight. I just got
home from spending the day at the hospital. My daughter strongly insisted
that I stay by her ICU bedside because she wanted to hear my voice. Said it
calmed her down. So I was allowed to stay put for most of the day. When she
was conscious she demonstrated that the head trauma hadn't robbed her of
her ability to think logically. And that she can still do simple math.
(Around 11am they had told her they were going to do something for her arm,
and when she found out it was 5pm it took her less than a second to get
heated because they had made her wait "6 hours".) She has also recalled
both old and recent events while talking with the people that were there
at the time. Her sense of humor and other aspects of her personality still
sound like my daughter... The day of the crash I had to thank god that she
would live. The next day I thanked him that she could speak and recognize
both family & friends. Today I saw so much of my daughter's own personality
that I feel like I need to live forever just to have enough time to tell the
good lord how thankful I am. And she is still getting better...
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On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 12:18 +0700, C. van Nidek wrote:
My last windows free keyboard went out of service. Bought me a new keyboard with some windows (2) keys on it. I am Windows free since Windows 3 and have no idea how they are named. I want to use them and are looking for ideas. Does any of you are making use of these keys and for what?
Typically the 'Windows' key, like the Apple or Commorode, key is referred to as the meta-key. In GNOME3 it takes you to overview mode [same as Alt-F1]. Other keys like play, stop, mute, etc... aren't really all that standard but typically 'just work'. For example in my GNOME3 session the media keys are bound to the volume control and Banshee - they work perfectly on both my machines. -- System & Network Administrator [ LPI & NCLA ] http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com OpenGroupware Developer http://www.opengroupware.us Adam Tauno Williams -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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