[opensuse] Mouse out of control under Tumbleweed
I have installed Tumbleweed for the second time. First time I did not have a problem with the mouse but I lost access to the internet and the system would not reboot hence the reinstall. I also have access to windows 10 on the same machine so I don't think it is a hardware problem. The basic problem is the mouse is erratic in that it leaves pointer trails on the desktop as well as flashing when I try to detect the edge of a window to expand it. I'm hoping someone can point be to a solution. I have no idea if it is a video driver problem or what. Thanks for any help. Up to this point openSUSE was quite reliable. Regards, Terry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
In data giovedì 19 gennaio 2017 11:24:37, Terry Eck ha scritto:
I have installed Tumbleweed for the second time. First time I did not have a problem with the mouse but I lost access to the internet and the system would not reboot hence the reinstall.
I also have access to windows 10 on the same machine so I don't think it is a hardware problem.
The basic problem is the mouse is erratic in that it leaves pointer trails on the desktop as well as flashing when I try to detect the edge of a window to expand it.
I'm hoping someone can point be to a solution. I have no idea if it is a video driver problem or what.
Thanks for any help. Up to this point openSUSE was quite reliable.
Regards,
Terry
And your hardware is? And your graphics card and driver is? And your desktop is? Plasma5? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2017 11:30 AM, stakanov wrote:
In data giovedì 19 gennaio 2017 11:24:37, Terry Eck ha scritto:
I have installed Tumbleweed for the second time. First time I did not have a problem with the mouse but I lost access to the internet and the system would not reboot hence the reinstall.
I also have access to windows 10 on the same machine so I don't think it is a hardware problem.
The basic problem is the mouse is erratic in that it leaves pointer trails on the desktop as well as flashing when I try to detect the edge of a window to expand it.
I'm hoping someone can point be to a solution. I have no idea if it is a video driver problem or what.
Thanks for any help. Up to this point openSUSE was quite reliable.
Regards,
Terry And your hardware is? It is a Dell XPS 64bit intel And your graphics card and driver is? Card is whatever is in the XPS and the driver is whatever Tumbleweed would install, no idea. And your desktop is? Plasma5? Yes, Plasma5
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On 01/19/2017 11:30 AM, stakanov wrote:
In data giovedì 19 gennaio 2017 11:24:37, Terry Eck ha scritto:
I have installed Tumbleweed for the second time. First time I did not have a problem with the mouse but I lost access to the internet and the system would not reboot hence the reinstall.
I also have access to windows 10 on the same machine so I don't think it is a hardware problem.
The basic problem is the mouse is erratic in that it leaves pointer trails on the desktop as well as flashing when I try to detect the edge of a window to expand it.
I'm hoping someone can point be to a solution. I have no idea if it is a video driver problem or what.
Thanks for any help. Up to this point openSUSE was quite reliable.
Regards,
Terry And your hardware is? Dell XPS 64bit intel And your graphics card and driver is? NVIDIA GM107 Board -20120050, Driver is whatever openSUSE would install, Framebuffer And your desktop is? Plasma5? Yes Plasma5
This information was from Yast Hardware information.
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In data giovedì 19 gennaio 2017 13:15:29, Terry Eck ha scritto:
On 01/19/2017 11:30 AM, stakanov wrote:
In data giovedì 19 gennaio 2017 11:24:37, Terry Eck ha scritto:
I have installed Tumbleweed for the second time. First time I did not have a problem with the mouse but I lost access to the internet and the system would not reboot hence the reinstall.
I also have access to windows 10 on the same machine so I don't think it is a hardware problem.
The basic problem is the mouse is erratic in that it leaves pointer trails on the desktop as well as flashing when I try to detect the edge of a window to expand it.
I'm hoping someone can point be to a solution. I have no idea if it is a video driver problem or what.
Thanks for any help. Up to this point openSUSE was quite reliable.
Regards,
Terry
And your hardware is?
Dell XPS 64bit intel
And your graphics card and driver is?
NVIDIA GM107 Board -20120050, Driver is whatever openSUSE would install, Framebuffer
And your desktop is? Plasma5?
Yes Plasma5
This information was from Yast Hardware information. Ok, this is nvidia. There have been some problems with freezing plasma, but today there was an update of tumbleweed. Try already to do it and have patience up to when it is finished. The update (as it brings in a new version of x-server) is to be done in terminal with
zypper dup --no-allow-vendor-change the restart the machine Like this you will get the newest x-server and your choices regarding packman are respected. It is not said that you have the righ video driver but you have a working one. I do not know if this is a hybrid grafic nvidia/intel or a pure intel graphics board. Once you have done the update, try to see if(!) the problem persists. It would be in that case nice to know the output of sudo lscpu and the output of sudo lspci -vnnn | perl -lne 'print if /^\d+\:.+(\[\S+\:\S+\])/' | grep VGA You can post that here in case it is still necessary. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/19/2017 03:28 PM, stakanov wrote:
In data giovedì 19 gennaio 2017 13:15:29, Terry Eck ha scritto:
On 01/19/2017 11:30 AM, stakanov wrote:
In data giovedì 19 gennaio 2017 11:24:37, Terry Eck ha scritto:
Thanks for any help. Up to this point openSUSE was quite reliable.
Regards,
Terry And your hardware is? Dell XPS 64bit intel
And your graphics card and driver is? NVIDIA GM107 Board -20120050, Driver is whatever openSUSE would install, Framebuffer
And your desktop is? Plasma5? Yes Plasma5
This information was from Yast Hardware information. Ok, this is nvidia. There have been some problems with freezing plasma, but today there was an update of tumbleweed. Try already to do it and have patience up to when it is finished. The update (as it brings in a new version of x-server) is to be done in terminal with
zypper dup --no-allow-vendor-change
the restart the machine
I am happy to say your suggestion for zypper dup seems to solve the problem with the erratic mouse motion. Thank you for the suggestion. I'm currently running Tumbleweed with no apparent problems. Regards, Terry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
the restart the machine
I am happy to say your suggestion for zypper dup seems to solve the problem with the erratic mouse motion. Thank you for the suggestion. I'm currently running Tumbleweed with no apparent problems. Regards, Terry
From time to time - very rarely to tell the truth (I am using on one machine TW now for about 1 year) there is a problematic snapshot. Don't panic, if you have choosen btrfs then you can do a rollback. I would exercize this befor the day "X" and document myself on that particular aspect in the internet (how to do
Glad to hear that. Some advice (my opinion, ymmv) : subscribe to opensuse-factory too, sometimes people refer their issues there with more details. But post your problems mainly to this mailing-list first with indicating: TW, if possible the snapshot you are running, a clear indication of the hardware (CPU, GPU, memory and FS). Give in the subject a clear hint on what problem you referring. In general: Wait for a few days when a new snapshot comes up, so you have a greater possibility to avoid / manage problems. that, what to watch out for). Opensuse has a good documentation on that, I recall. You may wish to study well the respective list of updates of the regular automatized post for TW. Troublesome are in general: X-server replacements, mayor kernel version replacements and fixes to the LVM (if you use it). In these cases, given your somewhat more relaxed view on software (you are AFAICS not an "eager hacker") you should give it some day to settle, meanwhile you monitor the mailinglist for complaints or mayor problems from other users- and act accordingly. That means also that you may jump a snapshot that is known to have issues and given the high turn over of TW... you sit it out. If you are on holiday or do not use the machine for a few weeks: do a zypper dup --no-allow-vendor-change if you are just checking one per day you may also use the "application in the tray" for updates (will not update mayor versions of software but will catch urgent security fixes, will not work if on wlan AFAIK). Or you are using zypper up Oh, last but not least: have a lot of fun! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday, 20 January 2017 08:31:51 CET stakanov wrote: > > > the restart the machine > > > > I am happy to say your suggestion for zypper dup seems to solve the > > problem with > > the erratic mouse motion. Thank you for the suggestion. I'm currently > > running Tumbleweed > > with no apparent problems. > > Regards, > > Terry > > Glad to hear that. > > Some advice (my opinion, ymmv) : subscribe to opensuse-factory too, > sometimes people refer their issues there with more details. But post your > problems mainly to this mailing-list first with indicating: TW, if possible > the snapshot you are running, a clear indication of the hardware (CPU, GPU, > memory and FS). Give in the subject a clear hint on what problem you > referring. > > In general: > Wait for a few days when a new snapshot comes up, so you have a greater > possibility to avoid / manage problems. > From time to time - very rarely to tell the truth (I am using on one machine > TW now for about 1 year) there is a problematic snapshot. Don't panic, if > you have choosen btrfs then you can do a rollback. I would exercize this > befor the day "X" and document myself on that particular aspect in the > internet (how to do that, what to watch out for). Opensuse has a good > documentation on that, I recall. > You may wish to study well the respective list of updates of the regular > automatized post for TW. Troublesome are in general: X-server replacements, > mayor kernel version replacements and fixes to the LVM (if you use it). In > these cases, given your somewhat more relaxed view on software (you are > AFAICS not an "eager hacker") you should give it some day to settle, > meanwhile you monitor the mailinglist for complaints or mayor problems from > other users- and act accordingly. That means also that you may jump a > snapshot that is known to have issues and given the high turn over of TW... > you sit it out. > If you are on holiday or do not use the machine for a few weeks: > do a > zypper dup --no-allow-vendor-change > > if you are just checking one per day you may also use the "application in > the tray" for updates (will not update mayor versions of software but will > catch urgent security fixes, will not work if on wlan AFAIK). Or you are > using zypper up > > Oh, last but not least: have a lot of fun! also join and explore the forums: - you can learn a lot just by reading. - get advise and chat - they will help walk you through problems giving you commands to extract info etc if required. https://forums.opensuse.org/forumdisplay.php/667-Get-Technical-Help-Here -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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the restart the machine
I am happy to say your suggestion for zypper dup seems to solve the problem with the erratic mouse motion. Thank you for the suggestion. I'm currently running Tumbleweed with no apparent problems. Regards, Terry
Glad to hear that.
Some advice (my opinion, ymmv) : subscribe to opensuse-factory too, sometimes people refer their issues there with more details. But post your problems mainly to this mailing-list first with indicating: TW, if possible the snapshot you are running, a clear indication of the hardware (CPU, GPU, memory and FS). Give in the subject a clear hint on what problem you referring.
By all means, *do* subscribe to opensuse-factory and be sure to discuss Tumbleweed problems there as that is the preferred forum and where you are most likely to get the best advise. "opensuse" forum/mail-list is *not* for Tw but for Leap ver's and general opensuse linux related conversation. [....] -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-01-19 20:15, Terry Eck wrote:
And your hardware is? Dell XPS 64bit intel And your graphics card and driver is? NVIDIA GM107 Board -20120050, Driver is whatever openSUSE would install, Framebuffer
Er... if you have problems with these basic questions, then in my opinion Tumbleweed is not for you. Sorry, I'm not trying to be blunt. But tumbleweed is, er... troublesome. You need some expertise to control it. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" (Minas Tirith))
On 01/19/2017 06:12 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-01-19 20:15, Terry Eck wrote:
Er... if you have problems with these basic questions, then in my opinion Tumbleweed is not for you.
Sorry, I'm not trying to be blunt. But tumbleweed is, er... troublesome. You need some expertise to control it.
So, which version or distribution do you think I should be running, and don't say Windows 10. Regards, Terry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-01-20 03:45, Terry Eck wrote:
On 01/19/2017 06:12 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-01-19 20:15, Terry Eck wrote:
Er... if you have problems with these basic questions, then in my opinion Tumbleweed is not for you.
Sorry, I'm not trying to be blunt. But tumbleweed is, er... troublesome. You need some expertise to control it.
So, which version or distribution do you think I should be running, and don't say Windows 10.
That I answered in another of your threads: Leap 42.2 :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On 01/20/2017 04:54 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-01-20 03:45, Terry Eck wrote:
So, which version or distribution do you think I should be running, and don't say Windows 10. That I answered in another of your threads: Leap 42.2 :-)
Carlos, When I first setup my 64bit computer I installed Leap 42.2. All seem to work great until one morning I tried to login an got a message about some system file missing. I tried to reboot without success. Sorry I cannot provide info on the name of the file. Anyway I reinstalled Leap 42.2 without a problem but when I tried to login the screen flashed as though I was going to be logged on. Instead, the login screen appeared again. Thinking I miss typed the password I tried several times. Finally I went into console mode as root, ran yast and reset the user password. Tried to login again with same results. Did this several time and decided to try Tumbleweed. I may try Leap 42.2 sometime if Tumbleweed becomes too much of a problem. Thanks for listening to my problems Regards, Terry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-01-21 01:34, Terry Eck wrote:
On 01/20/2017 04:54 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Carlos, When I first setup my 64bit computer I installed Leap 42.2. All seem to work great until one morning I tried to login an got a message about some system file missing. I tried to reboot without success. Sorry I cannot provide info on the name of the file. Anyway I reinstalled Leap 42.2 without a problem but when I tried to login the screen flashed as though I was going to be logged on. Instead, the login screen appeared again. Thinking I miss typed the password I tried several times. Finally I went into console mode as root, ran yast and reset the user password. Tried to login again with same results. Did this several time and decided to try Tumbleweed. I may try Leap 42.2 sometime if Tumbleweed becomes too much of a problem.
None of those problems is peculiar to any particular release or even a distribution. When such a thing happens and you do not know how to solve it, you have to post an email here asking for help, with as much detail as you can get, and have patience. Reinstalling the same or different release solves little. You will hit into the same or another problem and solve nothing. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
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