Red Hat converted to glibc almost a year ago (RH 5.0). This is the main reason 5.0 was considered difficult to use. With Red Hat 5.2, though, everything seems pretty well sorted. Red Hat just chose to endure the pain earlier rather than later. - Scott Markus Mohr wrote:

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On Thu, 07 Jan 1999, you, Kim C. Callis, wrote on the topic of [SuSE Linux] Libc5 and glibc2:

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I have been using 5.3 of SuSE. I noted that there was extensive use of libc5 in this version, but the glib stuff was located on the system as well... I was wondering if there was any easy way to make the transistion over to glib (libc6) without breaking everything... I am tired of seeing messages like the following:

Watch out! The updating process from 5.3 to 6.0 is absolutely easy and well-organized, but there is a hell of a lot of problems concerning the launching of non-source-code (e. g. commercial) libc5-based programs under the glibc-installed 6.0!

Here in Germany, nobody yet realized the whole extent of potential and actual problems from this migration. I wonder whether the RedHat people have an easier approach to this, though ...

Sincerely,

Markus Mohr

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Have you started on this journal yet? I plan to do the same thing. "Kim C. Callis" wrote:

On 07-Jan-99 Scott Bronson wrote: || || Red Hat converted to glibc almost a year ago (RH 5.0). This is the || main || reason 5.0 was considered difficult to use. With Red Hat 5.2, though, || everything seems pretty well sorted. Red Hat just chose to endure the || pain earlier rather than later. || || - Scott

Actually after doing some sniffing around... I think I am going to set up glibc2 via a cross compiler... It seems to be a cleaner solution, and from there I can start the slow conversion over. I was reading the Glibc2-HOWTO, and that solution seemed a great deal messier. So, there we have it. The slow, but worth while conversion over to glibc2. I will be keeping a journal which anyone who wants can take a look at to see how the process went under SuSE.

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Hi, On Thu, Jan 07, 1999 at 22:50 +0100, Markus Mohr wrote:

1. What to do with the libc5-based programs which were not enclosed in the SuSE or another distribution, which are commercial or for which there is not source code available (e. g. Wabi 2.2D, Executor for Linux 2.0x)?

They run out of the box (I have currently nedit, joe, netscape, applixware and wordperfect as libc binaries). You just have to install the libc5-package. Ciao, Stefan - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, Markus Mohr wrote:

Yes, that's true. In my mind, RedHat 5.2 (I currently use SuSE 6.0, RedHat 5.2 [German edition], Debian 2.0, Caldera 1.3 [German version] and DLD 5.4 [German distributor] in a parallel way) is the actually most advanced Linux distribution at the time. Things do work a little bit more smoothly than with the SuSE distribution. But that's a personal impression and should not disencourage you using SuSE, which implies many features RedHat does not (e. g. a very good [at least German] handbook, GUIs etc.). Markus Mohr

What 'things' are these? You feedback is valuable. I, like you, use both RedHat 5.2 and S.u.S.E.( I'm, of course, not using 6.0 but 5.3). I think overall S.u.S.E. is a much better dist, and is more advanced, more 'intelligent' in that it is a bit better designed and thought out, I feel. This gap was more prominant in the older RedHats, ( 5.0 sucked IMHO --no offense, but it was bug ridden and crappy. That's just my opinion.) but now RedHat seems to have things a bit more together and no longer has the private 'award' I once gave it as 'most overrated software product of the year' ( when 5.0 came out). I do think S.u.S.E. once all transition difficulties are worked out on libs and compilers will CLEARLY be the better dist, just because the fundamental design over the years has been more intelligent and I don't expect this to change. But back to the point, what do you think are these things that run more smoothly on RedHat 5.2 ? -M - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>

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