hey all, reiserfs sounds awesome so i want it. but somehow i don't trust in it fully and i know that there are some partitions that cannot be reiserfs - /boot for instance. take the following mount points: / /boot /usr /usr/local /var /tmp /home /opt which one of them are safe to be reiserfs and which ones absolutely should not be? also, is there a way to convert a partition to reiserfs once it is ext2fs and contains data? thanks, martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo madduck@!#:1:s@\@@@.net -- your fly might be open (but don't check it just now).
On January 6, 2001 04:56 am, MaD dUCK wrote:
hey all, reiserfs sounds awesome so i want it. but somehow i don't trust in it fully and i know that there are some partitions that cannot be reiserfs - /boot for instance.
take the following mount points:
/ /boot /usr /usr/local /var /tmp /home /opt
which one of them are safe to be reiserfs and which ones absolutely should not be?
They all can be reiserfs. Use the notail option in /etc/fstab. Even that isn't an issue with newer versions of reiserfs and lilo. At least so I hear. Every partition on this machine is reiserf except for the windows one.
also, is there a way to convert a partition to reiserfs once it is ext2fs and contains data?
Nope. At least not that I know. Nick
I read somewhere that /boot shouldn't use ReiserFS. Is this still true? As far as stability: I used SuSE 6.4 running ReiserFS on the BBS system at work. It's been up for several months and both it and SuSE are rock stable. An interesting event happened after I completed the installation. There were two drives, and /home had the entire second HD. Thirty minutes after the install was completed the /home drive died. ReiserFS smoothly unmounted it. (I was logged in as root at the time, luckily) So, since the install wasn't up to design without /home, I punched the reset button to see how ReiserFS would react. Thirty seconds later I had loging in... no problems. I've used it here at home on my SuSE 7.0 since 7.0 came out... no problems. SuSE's logo could easily be the Rock of Gibralter. JLK On Saturday 06 January 2001 06:43, Nick Zentena wrote:
On January 6, 2001 04:56 am, MaD dUCK wrote:
hey all, reiserfs sounds awesome so i want it. but somehow i don't trust in it fully and i know that there are some partitions that cannot be reiserfs - /boot for instance.
take the following mount points:
/ /boot /usr /usr/local /var /tmp /home /opt
which one of them are safe to be reiserfs and which ones absolutely should not be?
They all can be reiserfs. Use the notail option in /etc/fstab. Even that isn't an issue with newer versions of reiserfs and lilo. At least so I hear. Every partition on this machine is reiserf except for the windows one.
also, is there a way to convert a partition to reiserfs once it is ext2fs and contains data?
Nope. At least not that I know.
Nick
-- Scientific theories, according to Sir Karl Popper, can be "falsified," or proven wrong, by experiment. Unscientific theories -Marxist dialectical history and Freudian psychology were Popper's favorites- are formed in such a way that they cannot be falsified by data.
On January 6, 2001 08:48 am, Jerry Kreps wrote:
I read somewhere that /boot shouldn't use ReiserFS. Is this still true?
I don't have a true /boot. I just keep it under /. The issues that I'm aware of are it needs to be big enough. Second the way the kernel file was written could cause problems for lilo. But if you use the notail options in /etc/fstab then lilo isn't an issue. My understanding is that newer versions of lilo and reiser don't even have that limitation. My /etc/fstab looks like: /dev/hda4 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda2 / reiserfs defaults,notail 1 1 /dev/hda6 /var reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda8 /opt reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda10 /usr reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda12 /tmp reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda9 /home reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda11 /usr/local reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda7 /var/spool reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda1 /dos vfat defaults 1 2 /dev/hda5 /dosd vfat defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb /cdrom auto ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0 /dev/fd0 /floppy auto noauto,user 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 # End of YaST-generated fstab lines So I'm pure reiser. Nick
What does the "notail" option do? On Saturday 06 January 2001 08:03, Nick Zentena wrote:
On January 6, 2001 08:48 am, Jerry Kreps wrote:
I read somewhere that /boot shouldn't use ReiserFS. Is this still true?
I don't have a true /boot. I just keep it under /. The issues that I'm aware of are it needs to be big enough. Second the way the kernel file was written could cause problems for lilo. But if you use the notail options in /etc/fstab then lilo isn't an issue. My understanding is that newer versions of lilo and reiser don't even have that limitation.
My /etc/fstab looks like:
/dev/hda4 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda2 / reiserfs defaults,notail 1 1 /dev/hda6 /var reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda8 /opt reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda10 /usr reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda12 /tmp reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda9 /home reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda11 /usr/local reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda7 /var/spool reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda1 /dos vfat defaults 1 2 /dev/hda5 /dosd vfat defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb /cdrom auto ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
/dev/fd0 /floppy auto noauto,user 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0 # End of YaST-generated fstab lines
So I'm pure reiser.
Nick
-- Scientific theories, according to Sir Karl Popper, can be "falsified," or proven wrong, by experiment. Unscientific theories -Marxist dialectical history and Freudian psychology were Popper's favorites- are formed in such a way that they cannot be falsified by data.
May I jump in here and ask a question about Reiser? Is there an easy way to resize/move reiser partitions, like Partiton Magic does? Jerry Kreps wrote:
What does the "notail" option do?
On Saturday 06 January 2001 08:03, Nick Zentena wrote:
On January 6, 2001 08:48 am, Jerry Kreps wrote:
I read somewhere that /boot shouldn't use ReiserFS. Is this still true?
I don't have a true /boot. I just keep it under /. The issues that I'm aware of are it needs to be big enough. Second the way the kernel file was written could cause problems for lilo. But if you use the notail options in /etc/fstab then lilo isn't an issue. My understanding is that newer versions of lilo and reiser don't even have that limitation.
My /etc/fstab looks like:
/dev/hda4 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda2 / reiserfs defaults,notail 1 1 /dev/hda6 /var reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda8 /opt reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda10 /usr reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda12 /tmp reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda9 /home reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda11 /usr/local reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda7 /var/spool reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda1 /dos vfat defaults 1 2 /dev/hda5 /dosd vfat defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb /cdrom auto ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
/dev/fd0 /floppy auto noauto,user 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0 # End of YaST-generated fstab lines
So I'm pure reiser.
Nick
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AFAIK, there is not. When you change the partition sizes you have to reformat. JLK On Saturday 06 January 2001 19:29, Jerry VB wrote:
May I jump in here and ask a question about Reiser?
Is there an easy way to resize/move reiser partitions, like Partiton Magic does?
Jerry Kreps wrote:
What does the "notail" option do?
On Saturday 06 January 2001 08:03, Nick Zentena wrote:
On January 6, 2001 08:48 am, Jerry Kreps wrote:
I read somewhere that /boot shouldn't use ReiserFS. Is this still true?
I don't have a true /boot. I just keep it under /. The issues that I'm aware of are it needs to be big enough. Second the way the kernel file was written could cause problems for lilo. But if you use the notail options in /etc/fstab then lilo isn't an issue. My understanding is that newer versions of lilo and reiser don't even have that limitation.
My /etc/fstab looks like:
/dev/hda4 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda2 / reiserfs defaults,notail 1 1 /dev/hda6 /var reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda8 /opt reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda10 /usr reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda12 /tmp reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda9 /home reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda11 /usr/local reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda7 /var/spool reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda1 /dos vfat defaults 1 2 /dev/hda5 /dosd vfat defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb /cdrom auto ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
/dev/fd0 /floppy auto noauto,user 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0 # End of YaST-generated fstab lines
So I'm pure reiser.
Nick
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Yes there is: resize_reiserfs growing can be done online, without unmounting (though unmounting is safer), shrinking offline. Good luck!
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On 07/01/2001, 04:00:27, Jerry Kreps <jerrykreps@jlkreps.net> wrote regarding Re: [SLE] reiserfs:
AFAIK, there is not. When you change the partition sizes you have to reformat. JLK
On Saturday 06 January 2001 19:29, Jerry VB wrote:
May I jump in here and ask a question about Reiser?
Is there an easy way to resize/move reiser partitions, like Partiton Magic does?
Jerry Kreps wrote:
What does the "notail" option do?
On Saturday 06 January 2001 08:03, Nick Zentena wrote:
On January 6, 2001 08:48 am, Jerry Kreps wrote:
I read somewhere that /boot shouldn't use ReiserFS. Is this still true?
I don't have a true /boot. I just keep it under /. The issues that I'm aware of are it needs to be big enough. Second the way the kernel file was written could cause problems for lilo. But if you use the notail options in /etc/fstab then lilo isn't an issue. My understanding is that newer versions of lilo and reiser don't even have that limitation.
My /etc/fstab looks like:
/dev/hda4 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda2 / reiserfs defaults,notail 1 1 /dev/hda6 /var reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda8 /opt reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda10 /usr reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda12 /tmp reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda9 /home reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda11 /usr/local reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda7 /var/spool reiserfs defaults 1 2 /dev/hda1 /dos vfat defaults 1 2 /dev/hda5 /dosd vfat defaults 1 2
/dev/hdb /cdrom auto ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
/dev/fd0 /floppy auto noauto,user 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0 # End of YaST-generated fstab lines
So I'm pure reiser.
Nick
-- Scientific theories, according to Sir Karl Popper, can be "falsified," or proven wrong, by experiment. Unscientific theories -Marxist dialectical history and Freudian psychology were Popper's favorites- are formed in such a way that they cannot be falsified by data.
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May I jump in here and ask a question about Reiser?
Is there an easy way to resize/move reiser partitions, like Partiton Magic does?
I believe LenZ once told me about a way to enlarge Reiser partitions even while they are online, and shrinking them using some tool so long as the partition was unmounted. I'm almost sure there is a way, I just don't know the program. Maybe you should write LenZ. -Tim Merry Christmas to you from Universal Networks! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks Information Tech. Consultant Christian Web Services Since 1996 ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm An Authorized IPSwitch Reseller tbutler@uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com ===================== "Solutions that Work" =====================
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 07:48:57 -0600, Jerry Kreps wrote: | I read somewhere that /boot shouldn't use ReiserFS. Is this still true? | This is only a lilo limitation. Noting else. Note the the latest lilo does support reiserfs on /boot. So go and compile the sources yourself. -- Koos Pol ---------------------------------------------------------------------- S.C. Pol T: +31 20 3116122 Systems Administrator F: +31 20 3116200 Compuware Europe B.V. E: koos_pol@nl.compuware.com Amsterdam PGP public key available
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