Yatsen Ng <yatsenng@casema.net> said:
What kind of PC configuration would you recommend for an internet gateway / firewall?
1) Pentium or 486DX with two free PCI slots (only needs 8 or 16MB RAM) 2) Two PCI NIC's, such as Linksys or Kingston (tulip clones) 3) 1.44MB 3.5" Floppy drive (no hard disk or CD-ROM) 4) Coyote Linux (http://www.coyotelinux.com) and a running Linux PC to run the configuration script (6 or 8 questions) -- -=|JP|=- Jon Pennington | Atipa Linux Solutions jpennington@atipa.com | http://www.atipa.com Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-241-2641 x121 -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
If you are like me and not fortunate enough to have a cable modem or DSL or whatever, but are instead limited to a lowly dialup analog modem, I would suggest Freesco (www.freesco.org). One floppy, can be run from a small dos partition for more logging, supports Web based control panel, caching DNS server, telnet access, print server, time server, dhcp server, thttpd (web) server, and can be configured for bridging, firewalling, routing, whatever. Also has a very good support forum. I have used it for about the last nine months or so, as I have been to busy(lazy;) to set up a proper gateway/firewall system by hand. Now w/ SuSE 6.4, I think I will do just that, to add an email, squid/junkbuster, news, and DNS server to my stable. The nice thing about freesco is that you can have a functional gateway/firewall in about ten minutes. Then, as time allows, shut down the freesco system, eject the floppy, and reboot into your *big* firewall system and work on configuring it. If you mess something up or whatever, shut it down, reboot the freesco disk, and go to the 'net and get some answers. Not the most convenient in the world, but it allows you t have a safety net. The gateway/firewall/mega-server I am bringing up is a PII-400 w/ 128MB RAM, and ~24 GB EIDE HD space. A Celeron 266 w/ 64MB RAM was actually overkill for the freesco scenario. Monte Jon Pennington wrote:
Yatsen Ng <yatsenng@casema.net> said:
What kind of PC configuration would you recommend for an internet gateway / firewall?
1) Pentium or 486DX with two free PCI slots (only needs 8 or 16MB RAM) 2) Two PCI NIC's, such as Linksys or Kingston (tulip clones) 3) 1.44MB 3.5" Floppy drive (no hard disk or CD-ROM) 4) Coyote Linux (http://www.coyotelinux.com) and a running Linux PC to run the configuration script (6 or 8 questions)
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WHO S PLAYING HERE? ======================================================================= From: monte@www.noproblem.net [mailto:monte@www.noproblem.net]On Behalf Of milanuk@yahoo.com ======================================================================= Thomas Beauchamp Managing Director No Problem Networks Ltd -----Original Message----- From: monte@www.noproblem.net [mailto:monte@www.noproblem.net]On Behalf Of milanuk@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 2:31 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Gateway / firewall If you are like me and not fortunate enough to have a cable modem or DSL or whatever, but are instead limited to a lowly dialup analog modem, I would suggest Freesco (www.freesco.org). One floppy, can be run from a small dos partition for more logging, supports Web based control panel, caching DNS server, telnet access, print server, time server, dhcp server, thttpd (web) server, and can be configured for bridging, firewalling, routing, whatever. Also has a very good support forum. I have used it for about the last nine months or so, as I have been to busy(lazy;) to set up a proper gateway/firewall system by hand. Now w/ SuSE 6.4, I think I will do just that, to add an email, squid/junkbuster, news, and DNS server to my stable. The nice thing about freesco is that you can have a functional gateway/firewall in about ten minutes. Then, as time allows, shut down the freesco system, eject the floppy, and reboot into your *big* firewall system and work on configuring it. If you mess something up or whatever, shut it down, reboot the freesco disk, and go to the 'net and get some answers. Not the most convenient in the world, but it allows you t have a safety net. The gateway/firewall/mega-server I am bringing up is a PII-400 w/ 128MB RAM, and ~24 GB EIDE HD space. A Celeron 266 w/ 64MB RAM was actually overkill for the freesco scenario. Monte Jon Pennington wrote:
Yatsen Ng <yatsenng@casema.net> said:
What kind of PC configuration would you recommend for an internet gateway / firewall?
1) Pentium or 486DX with two free PCI slots (only needs 8 or 16MB RAM) 2) Two PCI NIC's, such as Linksys or Kingston (tulip clones) 3) 1.44MB 3.5" Floppy drive (no hard disk or CD-ROM) 4) Coyote Linux (http://www.coyotelinux.com) and a running Linux PC to run
the
configuration script (6 or 8 questions)
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On Sun, 28 May 2000, Thomas Beauchamp wrote:
WHO S PLAYING HERE?
======================================================================= From: monte@www.noproblem.net [mailto:monte@www.noproblem.net]On Behalf Of milanuk@yahoo.com =======================================================================
Thomas Beauchamp Managing Director No Problem Networks Ltd
Look at the actual headers instead of pseudo-headers generated by your mail-program. The fault is actually that he sets his sender-field as monte without any domain. Here, I see it as monte@ko.sdu.dk. I would guess the mailserver simply adds its own domain when no domain is listed. Regards Ole -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Ouch , Im still pressing P150/166 into service as desktop units ,and p90 as firewalls. Amazing what linix can do. Dont try this with M$.
The gateway/firewall/mega-server I am bringing up is a PII-400 w/ 128MB RAM, and ~24 GB EIDE HD space. A Celeron 266 w/ 64MB RAM was actually overkill for the freesco scenario.
Monte
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Yatsen Ng <yatsenng@casema.net> said:
What kind of PC configuration would you recommend for an internet gateway / firewall?
1) Pentium or 486DX with two free PCI slots (only needs 8 or 16MB RAM) 2) Two PCI NIC's, such as Linksys or Kingston (tulip clones) 3) 1.44MB 3.5" Floppy drive (no hard disk or CD-ROM) 4) Coyote Linux (http://www.coyotelinux.com) and a running Linux PC to run
the
configuration script (6 or 8 questions)
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I have used Freesco and its predecessor, Balantain, for a couple years on a 486DX66 with 16MB ram and it handles all the traffic you want to push through a cable modem. Samy Elashmawy wrote:
Ouch , Im still pressing P150/166 into service as desktop units ,and p90 as firewalls. Amazing what linix can do. Dont try this with M$.
The gateway/firewall/mega-server I am bringing up is a PII-400 w/ 128MB RAM, and ~24 GB EIDE HD space. A Celeron 266 w/ 64MB RAM was actually overkill for the freesco scenario.
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This fresco , Is it a slef booting disk , where I can slip it in the drive and boot off of in linux ? Or must you allready have a version of linux allready on the box and then run freesco ? Also is there a way to creat a bbotable flopy with floppy as filesystem , that will then allow you to mount what ever local ide drive it there , or just work with the flopy ? You know something exeactly like the dos boot disk ? It boots up and finds what ever doas disk is there , if its a good one you can access it , if not ypou can then use whatever seperated disk to fix or blow it away ? I know that JP and GT like it becouse you can rip out the hard drive and have a very secure firewall . At 09:45 PM 5/29/2000 -0500, Ken Archer wrote:
I have used Freesco and its predecessor, Balantain, for a couple years on a 486DX66 with 16MB ram and it handles all the traffic you want to push through a cable modem.
Samy Elashmawy wrote:
Ouch , Im still pressing P150/166 into service as desktop units ,and p90 as firewalls. Amazing what linix can do. Dont try this with M$.
The gateway/firewall/mega-server I am bringing up is a PII-400 w/ 128MB RAM, and ~24 GB EIDE HD space. A Celeron 266 w/ 64MB RAM was actually overkill for the freesco scenario.
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Freesco is a self booting disk. If you use Freesco from a hard drive, though, the partition it is installed to actually will have to be a DOS partition (can't remember whether it is FAT or FAT32). As far as accessing other drives, etc, I think you can mount other drives once Freesco is done booting, and transfer files thataway. Some people use the thttpd server in Freesco plus a hacked version of miniSQL to serve up some web database stuff. But since Freesco has no network file transfer protocols, getting the data to the freesco server is ala sneakernet. Monte Samy Elashmawy wrote:
This fresco ,
Is it a slef booting disk , where I can slip it in the drive and boot off of in linux ? Or must you allready have a version of linux allready on the box and then run freesco ?
Also is there a way to creat a bbotable flopy with floppy as filesystem , that will then allow you to mount what ever local ide drive it there , or just work with the flopy ?
You know something exeactly like the dos boot disk ? It boots up and finds what ever doas disk is there , if its a good one you can access it , if not ypou can then use whatever seperated disk to fix or blow it away ? I know that JP and GT like it becouse you can rip out the hard drive and have a very secure firewall .
At 09:45 PM 5/29/2000 -0500, Ken Archer wrote:
I have used Freesco and its predecessor, Balantain, for a couple years on a 486DX66 with 16MB ram and it handles all the traffic you want to push through a cable modem.
Samy Elashmawy wrote:
Ouch , Im still pressing P150/166 into service as desktop units ,and p90 as firewalls. Amazing what linix can do. Dont try this with M$.
The gateway/firewall/mega-server I am bringing up is a PII-400 w/ 128MB RAM, and ~24 GB EIDE HD space. A Celeron 266 w/ 64MB RAM was actually overkill for the freesco scenario.
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On Mon, 29 May 2000, Samy Elashmawy wrote:
Ouch , Im still pressing P150/166 into service as desktop units ,and p90 as firewalls. Amazing what linix can do. Dont try this with M$.
The gateway/firewall/mega-server I am bringing up is a PII-400 w/ 128MB RAM, and ~24 GB EIDE HD space. A Celeron 266 w/ 64MB RAM was actually overkill for the freesco scenario.
Well, don't forget, this machine is also a "mega-server". But I do pity you trying to use a P150 with M$ for a desktop. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
At 06:57 AM 5/30/2000 -0700, Don Edwards wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2000, Samy Elashmawy wrote:
Ouch , Im still pressing P150/166 into service as desktop units ,and p90 as firewalls. Amazing what linix can do. Dont try this with M$.
The gateway/firewall/mega-server I am bringing up is a PII-400 w/ 128MB RAM, and ~24 GB EIDE HD space. A Celeron 266 w/ 64MB RAM was actually overkill for the freesco scenario.
Well, don't forget, this machine is also a "mega-server".
M$ on a P 150 you must be kiding , thats why I put linux on it. It started as an test bed and it worked so well I pressed it into service as it works fine for what its used for. I use it for making store sings with applixware. Nothing realy powerfull on it so Ihavent though of upgrading it yet. I can even run word Perfect Office 2000 on it. Worperfect is a little slugish but very usable , and paradox is a wee bit more slugish. I still want to try applixdata on it then make a fianl decision as to which will stay on it.
But I do pity you trying to use a P150 with M$ for a desktop.
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This looks very interesting. I will have to play with it.. Thanks. Jon Pennington wrote:
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Yatsen Ng <yatsenng@casema.net> said:
What kind of PC configuration would you recommend for an internet gateway / firewall?
1) Pentium or 486DX with two free PCI slots (only needs 8 or 16MB RAM) 2) Two PCI NIC's, such as Linksys or Kingston (tulip clones) 3) 1.44MB 3.5" Floppy drive (no hard disk or CD-ROM) 4) Coyote Linux (http://www.coyotelinux.com) and a running Linux PC to run
I would up it to a Pentium 90 or better if you can , and you will want a cdrom for the install (you canborough on from another system). The install on a pentium is much faster , so if you are short on time , spend another $20.00 for the lower end pentuims. The time you save you could use setting up the system. 486 will work fine , and the lowerer end P90 and better cpus are realy starting to show up realy cheap now. If you go the 486 , most do not have pci slots , while most pentuim systems do have pci slots . At 02:22 AM 5/28/2000 -0500, Jon Pennington wrote: the
configuration script (6 or 8 questions)
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