I occasionally get email with embedded images (obviously sent by Outlook
people). These show up as separate images that must be opened in a viewer,
such as gwenview. Is there a way to get KMail to display some graphical
content, such as jpegs and gif inline?
--
Jerry Feldman
Jerry, On Thursday 16 December 2004 14:04, Jerry Feldman wrote:
I occasionally get email with embedded images (obviously sent by Outlook people). These show up as separate images that must be opened in a viewer, such as gwenview. Is there a way to get KMail to display some graphical content, such as jpegs and gif inline?
Simple: KMail -> View -> Attachments -> Inline
-- Jerry Feldman
Randall Schulz
Speaking of which, I get allot of emails also with images, and they open inline no problem, except at the end of the email, instead of their place in the message. Is this normal? I just assumed there was nothing I could do about it. B-) On Thursday 16 December 2004 03:12 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Jerry,
On Thursday 16 December 2004 14:04, Jerry Feldman wrote:
I occasionally get email with embedded images (obviously sent by Outlook people). These show up as separate images that must be opened in a viewer, such as gwenview. Is there a way to get KMail to display some graphical content, such as jpegs and gif inline?
Simple:
KMail -> View -> Attachments -> Inline
-- Jerry Feldman
Randall Schulz
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:12:22 -0800
Randall R Schulz
Jerry,
On Thursday 16 December 2004 14:04, Jerry Feldman wrote:
I occasionally get email with embedded images (obviously sent by Outlook people). These show up as separate images that must be opened in a viewer, such as gwenview. Is there a way to get KMail to display some graphical content, such as jpegs and gif inline?
Simple:
KMail -> View -> Attachments -> Inline
-- Jerry Feldman
Randall Schulz
Hi, Just a short story in the same topic. I use 9.1 with KDE 3.3.0 (& recently 3.3.1), and had the same problem, that with one exception (girlfriend) there were no embedded pictures in my incoming e-mails; I could just open them via external viewer. This story didn't changed, when my girlfriend moved from her favorite Mozilla to ThunderBird: she was still the only one sending me e-mails with embedded pictures! I found then the above setup, and changed from the default (?) 'Smart' option to 'Inline'. Was happy with it, now EVERYBODY can send me nice pictures embedded, but... After a while realized, that this function applies for the preview panel only; after double-clicking a particular message the previously nice embedded pictures disappear, and still the girlfriend is the only one, who really _manages_ it in both the preview panel, and also when I open her e-mail... I think it doesn't help anyone, but after seeing the same feature at least no-one will be surprised;) Peli
Thu, 16 Dec 2004, by gaf@blu.org:
I occasionally get email with embedded images (obviously sent by Outlook people). These show up as separate images that must be opened in a viewer, such as gwenview. Is there a way to get KMail to display some graphical content, such as jpegs and gif inline?
Bad idea. Spammers embed 1-pixel images to track who's reading their shite. (Pre)view one of these and you immediatly tell 'm your adres is valid and active. Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 27N , 4 29 45E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 9.2 + Jabber: gurp@nedlinux.nl Kernel 2.6.8 + MSN: twe-msn@ferrets4me.xs4all.nl See headers for PGP/GPG info. +
On Thursday 16 Dec 2004 22:35 pm, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
Thu, 16 Dec 2004, by gaf@blu.org:
I occasionally get email with embedded images (obviously sent by Outlook people). These show up as separate images that must be opened in a viewer, such as gwenview. Is there a way to get KMail to display some graphical content, such as jpegs and gif inline?
Bad idea. Spammers embed 1-pixel images to track who's reading their shite. (Pre)view one of these and you immediatly tell 'm your adres is valid and active.
This is easily prevented by telling kmail not to load external sources - it's in the security section. Dylan
Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 27N , 4 29 45E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 9.2 + Jabber: gurp@nedlinux.nl Kernel 2.6.8 + MSN: twe-msn@ferrets4me.xs4all.nl See headers for PGP/GPG info. +
-- "I see your Schwartz is as big as mine" -Dark Helmet
On Thursday 16 Dec 2004 22:35 pm, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
Thu, 16 Dec 2004, by gaf@blu.org: <snip> Bad idea. Spammers embed 1-pixel images to track who's reading their shite. (Pre)view one of these and you immediatly tell 'm your adres is valid and active.
This is easily prevented by telling kmail not to load external sources - it's in the security section. <more snippage> I am probably wrong , but doesn't that defeat his purpose? Which, if I understood correctly, was to actually look at these pictures which Kmail renders as separate pictures,rather than allowing indiscriminate html loose on his box. In this case I suspect it's the lesser of two evils he's deciding. For just the one item should he look at the external image, or the
On Thursday 16 December 2004 5:42 pm, Dylan wrote: html ( not usually a good choice, since you can never be certain your friends windows box wasn't haxsored and your email addy is now in the haxsor's Address book.. -- j nemo me impune lacessit quis custodiet ipsos custodiates?'
On Friday 17 Dec 2004 01:01, jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:
On Thursday 16 December 2004 5:42 pm, Dylan wrote:
On Thursday 16 Dec 2004 22:35 pm, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
Thu, 16 Dec 2004, by gaf@blu.org:
<snip>
Bad idea. Spammers embed 1-pixel images to track who's reading their shite. (Pre)view one of these and you immediatly tell 'm your adres is valid and active.
This is easily prevented by telling kmail not to load external sources - it's in the security section.
<more snippage> I am probably wrong , but doesn't that defeat his purpose? Which, if I understood correctly, was to actually look at these pictures which Kmail renders as separate pictures,rather than allowing indiscriminate html loose on his box. In this case I suspect it's the lesser of two evils he's deciding. For just the one item should he look at the external image, or the html ( not usually a good choice, since you can never be certain your friends windows box wasn't haxsored and your email addy is now in the haxsor's Address book..
-- j nemo me impune lacessit quis custodiet ipsos custodiates?'
Sick with using an external viewer at least that way you deciede if you actually see the images included or just trash them . Pete -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan, The time is here to FORGET that M$ Corp ever existed the world does not NEED M$ Corp the world has NO USE for M$ Corp it is time to END M$ Corp , Play time is over folks time for action approaches at an alarming pace the death knell for M$ Copr has been sounded . Termination time is around the corner ..
Peter, On Friday 17 December 2004 01:49, peter Nikolic wrote:
On Friday 17 Dec 2004 01:01, jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:
On Thursday 16 December 2004 5:42 pm, Dylan wrote:
On Thursday 16 Dec 2004 22:35 pm, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
Thu, 16 Dec 2004, by gaf@blu.org:
<snip>
Bad idea. Spammers embed 1-pixel images to track who's reading their shite. (Pre)view one of these and you immediatly tell 'm your adres is valid and active.
This is easily prevented by telling kmail not to load external sources - it's in the security section.
<more snippage> I am probably wrong , but doesn't that defeat his purpose? Which, if I understood correctly, was to actually look at these pictures which Kmail renders as separate pictures, ...
-- j
Sick with using an external viewer at least that way you deciede if you actually see the images included or just trash them .
What does that accomplish? Nothing but inconvenience. There is no risk to viewing an image whose content is embedded in the message. Furthermore, there's no way in KMail to selectively remove individual MIME components, so "just [trashing] them" would require an external filter to remove the image component of the MIME message that includes it.
Pete
Randall Schulz
On Friday 17 Dec 2004 16:46, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Peter,
On Friday 17 December 2004 01:49, peter Nikolic wrote:
On Friday 17 Dec 2004 01:01, jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:
On Thursday 16 December 2004 5:42 pm, Dylan wrote:
On Thursday 16 Dec 2004 22:35 pm, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
Thu, 16 Dec 2004, by gaf@blu.org:
<snip>
Bad idea. Spammers embed 1-pixel images to track who's reading their shite. (Pre)view one of these and you immediatly tell 'm your adres is valid and active.
This is easily prevented by telling kmail not to load external sources - it's in the security section.
<more snippage> I am probably wrong , but doesn't that defeat his purpose? Which, if I understood correctly, was to actually look at these pictures which Kmail renders as separate pictures, ...
-- j
Sick with using an external viewer at least that way you deciede if you actually see the images included or just trash them .
What does that accomplish? Nothing but inconvenience. There is no risk to viewing an image whose content is embedded in the message. Furthermore, there's no way in KMail to selectively remove individual MIME components, so "just [trashing] them" would require an external filter to remove the image component of the MIME message that includes it.
Pete
Randall Schulz Yeah whatever ..
dam stupid M$ Corp ideas. -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan, The time is here to FORGET that M$ Corp ever existed the world does not NEED M$ Corp the world has NO USE for M$ Corp it is time to END M$ Corp , Play time is over folks time for action approaches at an alarming pace the death knell for M$ Copr has been sounded . Termination time is around the corner ..
Peter, On Friday 17 December 2004 13:23, peter Nikolic wrote:
On Friday 17 Dec 2004 16:46, Randall R Schulz wrote:
..
Sick with using an external viewer at least that way you deciede if you actually see the images included or just trash them .
What does that accomplish? Nothing but inconvenience. There is no risk to viewing an image whose content is embedded in the message. Furthermore, there's no way in KMail to selectively remove individual MIME components, so "just [trashing] them" would require an external filter to remove the image component of the MIME message that includes it.
Pete
Randall Schulz
Yeah whatever ..
dam stupid M$ Corp ideas.
MIME ("Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions") is neither a Microsoft
idea nor a stupid idea.
From FOLDOC:
"
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:53:54 -0800, Randall R Schulz
Peter,
On Friday 17 December 2004 13:23, peter Nikolic wrote:
On Friday 17 Dec 2004 16:46, Randall R Schulz wrote:
..
Sick with using an external viewer at least that way you deciede if you actually see the images included or just trash them .
What does that accomplish? Nothing but inconvenience. There is no risk to viewing an image whose content is embedded in the message. Furthermore, there's no way in KMail to selectively remove individual MIME components, so "just [trashing] them" would require an external filter to remove the image component of the MIME message that includes it.
Pete
Randall Schulz
Yeah whatever ..
dam stupid M$ Corp ideas.
MIME ("Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions") is neither a Microsoft idea nor a stupid idea.
From FOLDOC:
"
(MIME) A standard for multi-part, multimedia electronic mail messages and World-Wide Web hypertext documents on the Internet. MIME provides the ability to transfer non-textual data, such as graphics, audio and fax. It is defined in RFC 2045, RFC 2046, RFC 2047, RFC 2048, RFC 2049, and BCP0013. It uses mimencode to encode binary data into base 64 using a subset of ASCII." Randall Schulz
Randall, this is not exactly replay to your post, I just deleted the rest of the thread, and I use your message to stay in the loop :) I guess he was speaking about displaying something other than text in the email client. And still I do not know if this is M$ idea, or not. But for sure it is not stupid. As he says - next is desktop. If the desktop is not user friendly, and there is such a thinking about user requests, it will never be won. Sunny -- Get Firefox http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=10745&t=85
On Friday 17 Dec 2004 21:53, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Peter,
On Friday 17 December 2004 13:23, peter Nikolic wrote:
On Friday 17 Dec 2004 16:46, Randall R Schulz wrote:
..
Sick with using an external viewer at least that way you deciede if you actually see the images included or just trash them .
What does that accomplish? Nothing but inconvenience. There is no risk to viewing an image whose content is embedded in the message. Furthermore, there's no way in KMail to selectively remove individual MIME components, so "just [trashing] them" would require an external filter to remove the image component of the MIME message that includes it.
Pete
Randall Schulz
Yeah whatever ..
dam stupid M$ Corp ideas.
MIME ("Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions") is neither a Microsoft idea nor a stupid idea.
From FOLDOC:
"
(MIME) A standard for multi-part, multimedia electronic mail messages and World-Wide Web hypertext documents on the Internet. MIME provides the ability to transfer non-textual data, such as graphics, audio and fax. It is defined in RFC 2045, RFC 2046, RFC 2047, RFC 2048, RFC 2049, and BCP0013. It uses mimencode to encode binary data into base 64 using a subset of ASCII." Randall Schulz yeah whatever you say basically mime is absolutley nothing to do with it at all the fact was images in mail which IS an M$ Corp thing BTW ..
like i say Yeah whatever. -- Linux user No: 256242 Machine No: 139931 G6NJR Pete also MSA registered "Quinton 11" A Linux Only area Happy bug hunting M$ clan, The time is here to FORGET that M$ Corp ever existed the world does not NEED M$ Corp the world has NO USE for M$ Corp it is time to END M$ Corp , Play time is over folks time for action approaches at an alarming pace the death knell for M$ Copr has been sounded . Termination time is around the corner ..
Peter, On Saturday 18 December 2004 16:49, peter Nikolic wrote:
...
dam stupid M$ Corp ideas.
MIME ("Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions") is neither a Microsoft idea nor a stupid idea.
From FOLDOC:
"
(MIME) A standard for multi-part, multimedia electronic mail messages and World-Wide Web hypertext documents on the Internet. MIME provides the ability to transfer non-textual data, such as graphics, audio and fax. It is defined in RFC 2045, RFC 2046, RFC 2047, RFC 2048, RFC 2049, and BCP0013. It uses mimencode to encode binary data into base 64 using a subset of ASCII." yeah whatever you say basically mime is absolutley nothing to do with it at all the fact was images in mail which IS an M$ Corp thing
You don't know what you're talking about. The original poster was asking about _embedded_ images, _not_ HTML mail, and that is exactly what MIME mail is and does. It can also be used to include HTML segments, but in this case, that's not what the issue is. Hate Microsoft all you want (I'm no fan), but this is not an "MS thing". Toss out as many "yeah, whatever" as you like, but you're still wrong, and that's that. Randall Schulz
Theo, On Thursday 16 December 2004 14:35, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
Thu, 16 Dec 2004, by gaf@blu.org:
I occasionally get email with embedded images (obviously sent by Outlook people). These show up as separate images that must be opened in a viewer, such as gwenview. Is there a way to get KMail to display some graphical content, such as jpegs and gif inline?
Bad idea. Spammers embed 1-pixel images to track who's reading their shite. (Pre)view one of these and you immediatly tell 'm your adres is valid and active.
You're confusing HTML mail, where that tactic can be employed (both with tiny covert images and with plainly visible overt ones) with images included in regular MIME mail. The latter require no interaction with a server during viewing of the message and hence does not expose one to that particular security risk.
Theo
Randall Schulz
Thu, 16 Dec 2004, by rschulz@sonic.net:
Theo,
On Thursday 16 December 2004 14:35, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
Thu, 16 Dec 2004, by gaf@blu.org:
I occasionally get email with embedded images (obviously sent by Outlook people). These show up as separate images that must be opened in a viewer, such as gwenview. Is there a way to get KMail to display some graphical content, such as jpegs and gif inline?
Bad idea. Spammers embed 1-pixel images to track who's reading their shite. (Pre)view one of these and you immediatly tell 'm your adres is valid and active.
You're confusing HTML mail, where that tactic can be employed (both with tiny covert images and with plainly visible overt ones) with images included in regular MIME mail. The latter require no interaction with a server during viewing of the message and hence does not expose one to that particular security risk.
You're right of course . In that case, like Dylan said, preventing kmail loading images from external sources would be enough. Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 27N , 4 29 45E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 9.2 + Jabber: gurp@nedlinux.nl Kernel 2.6.8 + MSN: twe-msn@ferrets4me.xs4all.nl See headers for PGP/GPG info. +
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