[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-kde] OpenSync and KDE
On Thursday 04 March 2010 06:00:18 Malte Gell wrote:
I want to sync my Nokia N97 with KOrganizer from Kontact. I use openSUSE 11.1 and try to learn about OpenSync.
Syncing is an embarrassment right now. KDE PIM put its bets on OpenSync years ago, but that hasn't made a stable release yet. Now people are working on a SyncML solution, but I'm not sure how complete that is yet.
I would like to know, does the libopensync-plugin-kdepim that comes with openSUSE 11.1 support KDE 4 or only KDE 3? I use KDE 4.3.5.
It's just KDE 3.
Will Shouldn't Novell be pushing Nokia to be doing something about this now? They own QT and could at least dish out some APIs for syncing with their phones. I
On Thursday 04 Mar 2010 09:06:41 Will Stephenson wrote: think Nokia should be rewriting all their sync software (even on Windows) in QT or KDE. regards Ian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 04 March 2010 16:17:33 ianseeks wrote:
On Thursday 04 Mar 2010 09:06:41 Will Stephenson wrote:
On Thursday 04 March 2010 06:00:18 Malte Gell wrote:
I want to sync my Nokia N97 with KOrganizer from Kontact. I use openSUSE 11.1 and try to learn about OpenSync.
Syncing is an embarrassment right now. KDE PIM put its bets on OpenSync years ago, but that hasn't made a stable release yet. Now people are working on a SyncML solution, but I'm not sure how complete that is yet.
I would like to know, does the libopensync-plugin-kdepim that comes with openSUSE 11.1 support KDE 4 or only KDE 3? I use KDE 4.3.5.
It's just KDE 3.
Will
Shouldn't Novell be pushing Nokia to be doing something about this now? They own QT and could at least dish out some APIs for syncing with their phones.
All the current phones use SyncML, I believe, so this is addressed by the SyncML akonadi resource coming from upstream.
I think Nokia should be rewriting all their sync software (even on Windows) in QT or KDE.
I hope so too! Will Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag 04 März 2010 17:02:20 schrieb Will Stephenson:
On Thursday 04 March 2010 16:17:33 ianseeks wrote:
On Thursday 04 Mar 2010 09:06:41 Will Stephenson wrote:
On Thursday 04 March 2010 06:00:18 Malte Gell wrote:
I want to sync my Nokia N97 with KOrganizer from Kontact. I use openSUSE 11.1 and try to learn about OpenSync.
Syncing is an embarrassment right now. KDE PIM put its bets on OpenSync years ago, but that hasn't made a stable release yet. Now people are working on a SyncML solution, but I'm not sure how complete that is yet.
I would like to know, does the libopensync-plugin-kdepim that comes with openSUSE 11.1 support KDE 4 or only KDE 3? I use KDE 4.3.5.
It's just KDE 3.
Will
Shouldn't Novell be pushing Nokia to be doing something about this now? They own QT and could at least dish out some APIs for syncing with their phones.
All the current phones use SyncML, I believe, so this is addressed by the SyncML akonadi resource coming from upstream.
An article in latest german Linux Magazine say that SyncML will die, because Apple and Nokia will support ActiveSync. I doubt waht it is good for to support a sync protocol that is close tied with Exchange Server. Maybe it's only a form of FUD.
I think Nokia should be rewriting all their sync software (even on Windows) in QT or KDE.
Maybe be they use Qt for their ActiveSync software...
I hope so too!
I really hope what the article states will not become reality... Herbert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Herbert Graeber wrote:
Will Shouldn't Novell be pushing Nokia to be doing something about this now? They own QT and could at least dish out some APIs for syncing with their phones.
All the current phones use SyncML, I believe, so this is addressed by the SyncML akonadi resource coming from upstream.
An article in latest german Linux Magazine say that SyncML will die, because Apple and Nokia will support ActiveSync. I doubt waht it is good for to support a sync protocol that is close tied with Exchange Server. Maybe it's only a form of FUD.
Depends really whether you are talking about network synchronisation of user data, or thing like phone backup. Interesting though, as the major Open Source projects (e.g. Funambol) and their commercial versions support SyncML (ActiveSync is a M$ proprietary protocol). Both the Java and C++ client libraries for Funambol are quite mature (and should work with other OMA compliant SyncML servers). The problem is that OpenSync never actually delivered anything obviously useful to anyone outside the project (e.g. API specs) last time I looked (a long time ago admittedly).
I think Nokia should be rewriting all their sync software (even on Windows) in QT or KDE.
Maybe be they use Qt for their ActiveSync software...
QT is a desktop interface, SyncML is a synchronisation standard (as defined by OMA). These are different things. The latter aspect is not Nokias problem, this seems to be more of an issue someone coming up with something that works in the KDE environment. Nokia have been disinterested in producing support for non-Windows platforms for direct connectivity of phones for some time. As in recent times in some parts of the world (e.g. UK) access to the tools required modify or examine the phone internals is restricted, it presents some problems for those wishing to work on alternatives.
I hope so too!
I really hope what the article states will not become reality...
Given the ActiveSync is strongly associated with Windows Mobile, there is not a lot mileage in replacing ones own standards with a competitors standard. Dual support probably will come though.
Herbert
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