[opensuse] SATA PCI card
I went to my hardware pusher and asked about buying an SATA PCI card, and was informed that he only has the new version of PCI cards, and maybe I'd just like an new mother board with sata already on it. What I'd prefer is a PCI card that has the SATA on it, and works out of the box under linux without costing me more than the money/time that getting that new mobo would. Comments and recommendations will be greatly appreciated. BTW, the why he wants a SATA card is that I'm looking at getting a SATA drive to hold files created by myth-tv. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Mike McMullin <mwmcmlln@mnsi.net> wrote:
I went to my hardware pusher and asked about buying an SATA PCI card, and was informed that he only has the new version of PCI cards, and maybe I'd just like an new mother board with sata already on it. What I'd prefer is a PCI card that has the SATA on it, and works out of the box under linux without costing me more than the money/time that getting that new mobo would. Comments and recommendations will be greatly appreciated. BTW, the why he wants a SATA card is that I'm looking at getting a SATA drive to hold files created by myth-tv.
We use the sil (siig) 2-port SATA pci card all the time with suse. No issues for basic use. I think they are $30 or $40. They have a version with 2 internal sata ports, or a different one with 2 eSata ports. Both work fine. I like eSata personally because we can buy eSata enclosures ($40) and treat the drives like USB drives. We did have to download new firmware for the card for it to work with drives over 500GB. (It failed to see those drives at all in the card bios, so linux had no chance to work.) One small thing to be aware of is PCI controllers will only run at Sata-150 speeds. The traditional PCI bus is not fast enough to support sata-300. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Mike McMullin wrote:
I went to my hardware pusher and asked about buying an SATA PCI card, and was informed that he only has the new version of PCI cards, and maybe I'd just like an new mother board with sata already on it. What I'd prefer is a PCI card that has the SATA on it, and works out of the box under linux without costing me more than the money/time that getting that new mobo would. Comments and recommendations will be greatly appreciated. BTW, the why he wants a SATA card is that I'm looking at getting a SATA drive to hold files created by myth-tv.
Mike, I just purchased and installed a Promise SATA300 TX4 4 port 3.0G sata controller. I installed the thing in an older MSI km2m motherboard and stuck 2 500G Samsung drives on it, configured it for software RAID1, formatted and I was done. The one problem with that hardware is that the linux driver (originally for RedHat and SuSE 9.3) is out of date and will not compile on 10.3 so you are limited to the performance of the default promise driver which is good ATA performance, but not the improved SATA performance. But for $65, I'm not complaining. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin wrote:
I just purchased and installed a Promise SATA300 TX4 4 port 3.0G sata controller. I installed the thing in an older MSI km2m motherboard and stuck 2 500G Samsung drives on it, configured it for software RAID1, formatted and I was done.
The one problem with that hardware is that the linux driver (originally for RedHat and SuSE 9.3) is out of date and will not compile on 10.3 so you are limited to the performance of the default promise driver which is good ATA performance, but not the improved SATA performance. But for $65, I'm not complaining.
I wonder why Promise isn't updating those drivers? Seems like they've been left in the dark. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:37 AM, Per Jessen <per@computer.org> wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
I just purchased and installed a Promise SATA300 TX4 4 port 3.0G sata controller. I installed the thing in an older MSI km2m motherboard and stuck 2 500G Samsung drives on it, configured it for software RAID1, formatted and I was done.
The one problem with that hardware is that the linux driver (originally for RedHat and SuSE 9.3) is out of date and will not compile on 10.3 so you are limited to the performance of the default promise driver which is good ATA performance, but not the improved SATA performance. But for $65, I'm not complaining.
I wonder why Promise isn't updating those drivers? Seems like they've been left in the dark.
I think Promise has been giving some support to the team working on the in kernel GPL driver instead of maintaining their own proprietary driver. I don't know if 10.3 has a good Promise drivet built-in or not, but 11.0 should. If your curious just search the change logs for kernels 2.6.18 through 2.6.25 and see when the Promise driver changes went in. It was somewhere in that large time frame. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* David C. Rankin (drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com) [20080516 06:38]:
The one problem with that hardware is that the linux driver (originally for RedHat and SuSE 9.3) is out of date and will not compile on 10.3 so you are limited to the performance of the default promise driver
Could you post what lspci has to say about the device? Given the PCI ID, it's much easier to check if the controller is supported. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Philipp Thomas wrote:
* David C. Rankin (drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com) [20080516 06:38]:
The one problem with that hardware is that the linux driver (originally for RedHat and SuSE 9.3) is out of date and will not compile on 10.3 so you are limited to the performance of the default promise driver
Could you post what lspci has to say about the device? Given the PCI ID, it's much easier to check if the controller is supported.
Philipp
I'll be glad to: 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8375 [KM266/KL266] Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP] 00:07.0 Mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC40718 (SATA 300 TX4) (rev 02) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80) 00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80) 00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 80) 00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82) 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge 00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M10 NQ [Radeon Mobility 9600] 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc M10 NQ [Radeon Mobility 9600] (Secondary) -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 23:38 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Mike McMullin wrote:
I went to my hardware pusher and asked about buying an SATA PCI card, and was informed that he only has the new version of PCI cards, and maybe I'd just like an new mother board with sata already on it. What I'd prefer is a PCI card that has the SATA on it, and works out of the box under linux without costing me more than the money/time that getting that new mobo would. Comments and recommendations will be greatly appreciated. BTW, the why he wants a SATA card is that I'm looking at getting a SATA drive to hold files created by myth-tv.
Mike,
I just purchased and installed a Promise SATA300 TX4 4 port 3.0G sata controller. I installed the thing in an older MSI km2m motherboard and stuck 2 500G Samsung drives on it, configured it for software RAID1, formatted and I was done.
Total noob question here, if i glom onto one of these cards will it setup in non-raid? It's beginning to look a lot like e-Bay will be the source. TigerDirect.ca has nothing for promise and about 3 IIRC SATA-PCI cards, and I have no idea of there are linux drivers for them.
The one problem with that hardware is that the linux driver (originally for RedHat and SuSE 9.3) is out of date and will not compile on 10.3 so you are limited to the performance of the default promise driver which is good ATA performance, but not the improved SATA performance. But for $65, I'm not complaining.
I've noted that someone from SuSE has asked for info and I am following along. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Mike McMullin <mwmcmlln@mnsi.net> wrote:
On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 23:38 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:
Mike McMullin wrote:
I went to my hardware pusher and asked about buying an SATA PCI card, and was informed that he only has the new version of PCI cards, and maybe I'd just like an new mother board with sata already on it. What I'd prefer is a PCI card that has the SATA on it, and works out of the box under linux without costing me more than the money/time that getting that new mobo would. Comments and recommendations will be greatly appreciated. BTW, the why he wants a SATA card is that I'm looking at getting a SATA drive to hold files created by myth-tv.
Mike,
I just purchased and installed a Promise SATA300 TX4 4 port 3.0G sata controller. I installed the thing in an older MSI km2m motherboard and stuck 2 500G Samsung drives on it, configured it for software RAID1, formatted and I was done.
Total noob question here, if i glom onto one of these cards will it setup in non-raid? It's beginning to look a lot like e-Bay will be the source. TigerDirect.ca has nothing for promise and about 3 IIRC SATA-PCI cards, and I have no idea of there are linux drivers for them.
For the vanilla kernel, a current (2.6.25) list of drivers is at http://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Hardware%2C_driver_status I assume 11.0 will be based on 2.6.25 (or newer) so that list should be relevant to the next OpenSUSE release. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
participants (5)
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David C. Rankin
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Greg Freemyer
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Mike McMullin
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Per Jessen
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Philipp Thomas