20 May
2017
20 May
'17
6:06 a.m.
On 05/19/2017 10:54 PM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
But if I can only barely catch their networks,
won't interference from
me to them be low too?
Assuming no one thinks hidden SSID is a security feature, so
you don't
know about them.
Also, the setting is actually 20/40 so should be able
to fall back in
case of issues?
No. It's one or the other.
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20 May
20 May
7:30 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Download speed issues
On 2017-05-20 13:06, James Knott wrote:
On 05/19/2017 10:54 PM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
But if the name is 20/40 one assumes that it automatically chooses 20 or
40 depending on circumstances, right?
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But if I can only barely catch their networks,
won't interference from
me to them be low too?
Assuming no one thinks hidden SSID is a security feature,
so you don't
know about them.
Also, the setting is actually 20/40 so should be
able to fall back in
case of issues?
No. It's one or the other.
11:21 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Download speed issues
On 05/20/2017 08:30 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2017-05-20 13:06, James Knott wrote:
In my experience, it's a setting in the access point configuration. So,
it's either one or the other.
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On 05/19/2017 10:54 PM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
But if the name is 20/40
one assumes that it automatically chooses 20 or
40 depending on circumstances, right?
But if I can only barely catch their networks,
won't interference from
me to them be low too?
Assuming no one thinks hidden SSID is a security feature,
so you don't
know about them.
Also, the setting is actually 20/40 so should be
able to fall back in
case of issues?
No. It's one or the other. 
1:35 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Download speed issues
On May 20, 2017 9:21:55 AM PDT, James Knott <james.knott(a)rogers.com> wrote:
On 05/20/2017 08:30 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
But if the name is 20/40 one assumes that it automatically chooses 20 or
Isn't this a regulatory issue, country specific?
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On 2017-05-20 13:06, James Knott wrote:
> On 05/19/2017 10:54 PM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
>> But if I can only barely catch their networks, won't interference
from
>> me to them be low too?
> Assuming no one thinks hidden SSID is a security feature, so you
don't
> know about them.
>
>> Also, the setting is actually 20/40 so should be able to fall back
in
case of issues?
No. It's one or the other.
40 depending on circumstances, right?
In my experience, it's a setting in the access point configuration.
So,
it's either one or the other.
1:46 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Download speed issues
On 05/20/2017 02:35 PM, John Andersen wrote:
That affects what channels are available, not how they're used. WiFi is
an unlicenced service that has no protection from interference, so you
can do whatever you want, so long as you comply with the regs, WRT
frequencies used, power etc. Also, some of the WiFi channels are shared
with other services, which are protected from interference. For
example, the lower part of the 2.4 GHz band partially overlaps an
amateur radio band. In that range, amateur radio has priority and
protection from interference caused by WiFi and other unlicenced uses.
Parts of the 5 GHz band are used for navigation and other uses that are
protected from WiFi.
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In my
experience, it's a setting in the access point configuration.
>So,
>it's either one or the other.
Isn't this a regulatory issue, country
specific?
6:05 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Download speed issues
On 2017-05-20 20:46, James Knott wrote:
On 05/20/2017 02:35 PM, John Andersen wrote:
That affects what channels are available, not how they're used. WiFi is
an unlicenced service that has no protection from interference, so you
can do whatever you want, so long as you comply with the regs, WRT
frequencies used, power etc. Also, some of the WiFi channels are shared
with other services, which are protected from interference. For
example, the lower part of the 2.4 GHz band partially overlaps an
amateur radio band. In that range, amateur radio has priority and
protection from interference caused by WiFi and other unlicenced uses.
Parts of the 5 GHz band are used for navigation and other uses that are
protected from WiFi.
Hum. Users are not aware of that at all.
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In my
experience, it's a setting in the access point configuration.
> So,
> it's either one or the other.
Isn't this a regulatory issue, country
specific?
6:31 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Download speed issues
On 05/20/2017 07:05 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hum. Users are not aware of that at all.
If they cause interference to a protected service, the government may
make them aware. ;-)
Actually, in the 5 GHz band, WiFi gear has to check for the other
services, before using a channel.
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7:21 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Download speed issues
On 2017-05-21 01:31, James Knott wrote:
On 05/20/2017 07:05 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
And then the customer will raise hell against the ISP that supplied and
installed the gadget. And even remotely admins it.
Hum. Users are not aware of that at all.
If they cause interference to a protected service, the government may
make them aware. ;-) Actually, in the 5 GHz band, WiFi gear has to check
for the other
services, before using a channel.
Makes sense...
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8:11 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Download speed issues
On 21 May 2017 at 01:21, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas(a)telefonica.net> wrote:
And the takeaway for me is that 40 MHz channels on 2.4Ghz are at best
a stopap measure and I really need to get a 5 Ghz donge onto the Linux
desktop, but nobody can tell me whether the dongle will work :)
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Actually, in
the 5 GHz band, WiFi gear has to check for the other
services, before using a channel.
Makes sense...
9:01 p.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Download speed issues
On 05/20/2017 06:11 PM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
And the takeaway for me is that 40 MHz channels on
2.4Ghz are at best
a stopap measure and I really need to get a 5 Ghz donge onto the Linux
desktop, but nobody can tell me whether the dongle will work :)
Which Dongle?
I just put a Netgear AC600 Adaptor (Stock number A6100-10000S)
which is compatible with the 802.11N spec , 2.4 and 5ghz band, into
a Ubuntu machine and its working very well.
However
I had to download and build the driver (the chipset is rtl8812AU, and
ubuntu didn't have a driver that would work).
https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux.git
It built ok, after I told the compiler not to fret about 2 warning
messages it was interpreting as errors.
So if you can find a distro that has drivers its a nice dongle.
If you have to build it, its doable.
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22 May
22 May
6:57 a.m.
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On 21 May 2017 at 03:01, John Andersen <jsamyth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The ones I am looking at have the RTL8811AU chipset. Is anything known
about drivers and firmware for that?
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And the
takeaway for me is that 40 MHz channels on 2.4Ghz are at best
a stopap measure and I really need to get a 5 Ghz donge onto the Linux
desktop, but nobody can tell me whether the dongle will work :)
Which Dongle?
I had to download and build the driver (the chipset is rtl8812AU,
10:19 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Download speed issues
On 05/22/2017 04:57 AM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
On 21 May 2017 at 03:01, John Andersen
<jsamyth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The ones I am looking at have the RTL8811AU chipset. Is anything known
about drivers and firmware for that?
Way too much is known, in way too many places if you ask me.
Google "linux wifi supported cards" without the quotes.
I'm guessing you are going to end up building that, but its usually not
that hard.
https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/520599-Realtek-RTL8811AU-Wireles…
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And the
takeaway for me is that 40 MHz channels on 2.4Ghz are at best
a stopap measure and I really need to get a 5 Ghz donge onto the Linux
desktop, but nobody can tell me whether the dongle will work :)
Which Dongle?
I had to download and build the driver (the chipset is rtl8812AU,
10:45 a.m.
New subject: [opensuse] Download speed issues
On 22 May 2017 at 16:19, John Andersen <jsamyth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> The ones I am looking at have the RTL8811AU
chipset. Is anything known
> about drivers and firmware for that?
This link appears to resolve the issue, thanks!
One final (hopefully) question - what is the best way to disable the
existing PCI Wi-Fi card without physically removing it, so I can try a
new dongle safely?
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New subject: [opensuse] Download speed issues
On 05/22/2017 11:45 AM, Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
On 22 May 2017 at 16:19, John Andersen
<jsamyth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
This link appears to resolve the issue, thanks!
One final (hopefully) question - what is the best way to disable the
existing PCI Wi-Fi card without physically removing it, so I can try a
new dongle safely?
Perhaps the BIOS? In my computer, I can turn off WiFi there.
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The ones
I am looking at have the RTL8811AU chipset. Is anything known
about drivers and firmware for that?
https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/520599-Realtek-RTL8811AU-Wireles…
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