[S.u.S.E. Linux] FYI Linus Trovalds in InforWorld
Hey Folks, Take a look at these articles in InfoWorld.: <A HREF="http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?/interviews/980608torvalds.htm"><A HREF="http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?/interviews/980608torvalds.htm</A">http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?/interviews/980608torvalds.htm <BR><A HREF="http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?/mentor/980608mentors.htm"><A HREF="http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?/mentor/980608mentors.htm</A">http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?/mentor/980608mentors.htm <BR><A HREF="http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?/features/980608linux.htm"><A HREF="http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?/features/980608linux.htm</A">http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?/features/980608linux.htm <BR><A HREF="http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?/features/980608free.htm"><A HREF="http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?/features/980608free.htm</A">http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?/features/980608free.htm Steve -- <A HREF="http://counter.li.org/"><IMG SRC="cid:part1.359303E4.FDCC1BC@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil" HEIGHT=110 WIDTH=190></A> <B><FONT FACE="Times New Roman,Times"><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT SIZE=+4>Yo Bill! Doo-bee, doo-bee, doo.</FONT></FONT></FONT></B> THE WORD OF GOD IS THE CREATION WE BEHOLD: And it is in this word, which no human invention can counterfeit or alter, that God speaketh universally to man. - Thomas Paine, _The Age of Reason_ [L]et [the charter] be brought forth placed on the divine law, the word of God; let a crown be placed thereon, by which; the world may know, that so far as we approve of monarchy, that in America the law is king. - Thomas Paine, *Common Sense*, February 14th, 1776 <BR> <BR> <A HREF="gif00001.gif"><IMG SRC="gif00001.gif" ALT="GIF image"></A></P>
Steven T. Hatton wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <A HREF="http://counter.li.org/"><IMG SRC="cid:part1.3593189D.FD38A97E@homemail.com" HEIGHT=110 WIDTH=190></A> <B><FONT FACE="Times New Roman,Times"><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT SIZE=+4>Yo Bill! Doo-bee, doo-bee, doo.</FONT></FONT></FONT></B> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE> How did you get this image and counter registration in your email? I just recently registered myself, but can't find the image (though I do know my number:-) and would like to append it to my signature? Thanx Loads:-) <PRE>-- cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey@homemail.com (Linux Box)</PRE> <A HREF="gif00003.gif"><IMG SRC="gif00003.gif" ALT="GIF image"></A></P>
Leon McClatchey wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> Steven T. Hatton wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE><A HREF="http://counter.li.org/"><IMG SRC="cid:part1.35932793.A2CFA7DA@cpkwebser5.ncr.disa.mil" HEIGHT=110 WIDTH=190></A> <B><FONT FACE="Times New Roman,Times"><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT SIZE=+4>Yo Bill! Doo-bee, doo-bee, doo.</FONT></FONT></FONT></B> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE> How did you get this image and counter registration in your email? I just recently registered myself, but can't find the image (though I do know my number:-) and would like to append it to my signature? Thanx Loads:-) <PRE>-- cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey@homemail.com (Linux Box)</PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> Leon, I recieved an e-mail back form my registration. It contained a web address and a user key which I used to access my record. At the top of that record I found the image. I right clicked and saved the image. I then used the Netscape Composer to create an HTML file which I stored as a signature file (siglinux.txt). I then pointed my Communicator to that file under Edit | Preferences | Mail & Groups | Identity. I found that I need to give an explicit path in the immage properties in order to make it work. It would appear that you are using an HTML enabled mail client. For folks without html clients this may come across as garbage. I hope it doesn't present them with too much consternation. I say they need to get with the 21st century. :-) If people do gripe a lot, well I guess I'll get rid of it. Steve <A HREF="gif00006.gif"><IMG SRC="gif00006.gif" ALT="GIF image"></A></P>
Hi! Trying to kill the keyboard, hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil produced:
It would appear that you are using an HTML enabled mail client. For folks without html clients this may come across as garbage. I hope it doesn't present them with too much consternation. I say they need to get with the 21st century. :-) If people do gripe a lot, well I guess I'll get rid of it.
With the same argument, you are accepting bloated, incompatible M$ word files, Office97 and so on! Or are you? While I do not care about what 2 consenting adults/computers/email programs do to each other, I DO prefer good old ASCII. Yes, my mail program does cooperate with browsers to show me the crap on request, but using HTML as a default (especially when no info is in there that could not be conveyed by ASCII) is as useful as driving a 10-ton truck all the time, no matter if you are moving or just sightseeing. That's a pretty inconvenient way to do things, a Window'ish way, if you ask me! Oh, remember people can only judge you by your mails & Co, and if they come across as garbage ... -Wolfgang, triggered by HTML mails to lists. -- PGP 2 welcome: Mail me, subject "send PGP-key". If you've nothing at all to hide, you must be boring. Unsolicited Bulk E-Mails: *You* pay for ads you never wanted. Is our economy _so_ weak we have to tolerate SPAMMERS? I guess not. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Html email sucks and is an inconvenience to others. People who send html to mailing lists are either clueless or selfish. Most of my mail browsing is done in netscape, both in linux and win95, but about 1/3 of the time I take my mail at the console, and I'm sure I'm not the only unix user out here that enjoys the simple elegance of running from the command line. I get a mailing list of game developer .plan files, and it amazes me how cs types can be so clueless about netiquette because so many of the posts are in html. It is a testament to how windows breeds ignorance, as well as to the crappy nature of that lists' nt majordomo server (the list sends out only ascii, so all the posts look like viewing html with vi :P). end rant :)
Trying to kill the keyboard, hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil produced:
It would appear that you are using an HTML enabled mail client. For folks without html clients this may come across as garbage. I hope it doesn't present them with too much consternation. I say they need to get with the 21st century. :-) If people do gripe a lot, well I guess I'll get rid of it.
With the same argument, you are accepting bloated, incompatible M$ word files, Office97 and so on! Or are you?
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Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
Hi!
Yes, my mail program does cooperate with browsers to show me the crap on request, but using HTML as a default (especially when no info is in there that could not be conveyed by ASCII) is as useful as driving a 10-ton truck all the time, no matter if you are moving or just sightseeing. That's a pretty inconvenient way to do things, a Window'ish way, if you ask me!
Wolfgang, Sometimes I like to use visuals just to have fun. I guess I am a bit spoiled I get awesome throughput at work and reasonable throughput at home, and I have more dirve space than I know what to do with. I like windows, I think visually. <A HREF="http://www.itol.com/~theling/neuschwanstein.html"><A HREF="http://www.itol.com/~theling/neuschwanstein.html</A">http://www.itol.com/~theling/neuschwanstein.html Steve -- [Image] Yo Bill! Doo-bee, doo-bee, doo. THE WORD OF GOD IS THE CREATION WE BEHOLD: And it is in this word, which no human invention can counterfeit or alter, that God speaketh universally to man. - Thomas Paine, _The Age of Reason_ [L]et [the charter] be brought forth placed on the divine law, the word of God; let a crown be placed thereon, by which; the world may know, that so far as we approve of monarchy, that in America the law is king. - Thomas Paine, *Common Sense*, February 14th, 1776 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Steven T. Hatton wrote:
I recieved an e-mail back form my registration. It contained a web address and a user key which I used to access my record. At the top of that record I found the image. I right clicked and saved the image. I then used the Netscape Composer to create an HTML file which I stored as a signature file (siglinux.txt). I then pointed my Communicator to that file under Edit | Preferences | Mail & Groups | Identity. I found that I need to give an explicit path in the immage properties in order to make it work.
hmm, for the most part, about the same method I used to create my text signature, except that was done with vi I believe, (or the internal editor for midnight commander). BTW, I did get that email also, complete with the image, but when I reread the message, the message had disappeared:-( That was why I was wondering how you got the image.
It would appear that you are using an HTML enabled mail client. For folks without html clients this may come across as garbage. I hope it doesn't present them with too much consternation. I say they need to get with the 21st century. :-) If people do gripe a lot, well I guess I'll get rid of it.
hehe, actually, there have been occasions when I did use pine to read some of my mail and found myself in a message that contained html and/or images. All pine did was to tell me to use v/s to save the file so it could be viewed with an external viewer. But I guess that there are mail readers that aren't even that advanced:-) Though for the most part when I do reply or write to the "list" I generally try to send it in plain text as I have seen a few negative posts about sending html messages into the list:-( Thanx, I'll save this message (and forward it to myself so I can read it the next time I'm on the linux box:-) (My better half is using it now to play bingo or whatever:-) -- cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey@homemail.com (Win95 Box) - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Leon McClatchey wrote:
hmm, for the most part, about the same method I used to create my text signature, except that was done with vi I believe, (or the internal editor for midnight commander).
I also used xemacs to touch it up. IMHO it is a wonderful tool. -- [Image] Yo Bill! Doo-bee, doo-bee, doo. THE WORD OF GOD IS THE CREATION WE BEHOLD: And it is in this word, which no human invention can counterfeit or alter, that God speaketh universally to man. - Thomas Paine, _The Age of Reason_ [L]et [the charter] be brought forth placed on the divine law, the word of God; let a crown be placed thereon, by which; the world may know, that so far as we approve of monarchy, that in America the law is king. - Thomas Paine, *Common Sense*, February 14th, 1776 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Steven T. Hatton wrote:
I also used xemacs to touch it up. IMHO it is a wonderful tool.
Yep, I've looked at it, (well actually emacs) but I keep getting lost when I try to do simple scripts. So for that I've been using the internal editor in mc. Haven't really looked at xemacs itself yet, but from what I understand, it is an excellent programming tool. Has a lot of built in capabilities as far as fomatting for different languages and things? I do know that I don't like "vi" very much, it kind of reminds me too much of the old dos edlin, except that at least with "vi" you do have the capability of looking at your entire page:=)
Leon McClatchey wrote:
Steven T. Hatton wrote:
I also used xemacs to touch it up. IMHO it is a wonderful tool.
A bit bloated for a text editor for my tastes. I realize that emacs is much more than just a text editor, but I prefer Visual Slick Edit for programming and vi for text editing.
BTW, how in the world do you add so much to your signature file? I just added my Linux User Number and netscape warns me that I've exceed the 4 line limit for my signature file?
Out of courtesy for others you should limit your sig to 4 lines, however you can have the complete King James bible as your sig if you want. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Michael Lankton wrote:
Out of courtesy for others you should limit your sig to 4 lines, however you can have the complete King James bible as your sig if you want.
Hey look, I'm down from 60k to 9 lines! Anyhow, I'm not one to get too picky about limits like these, ya aughta see what I do about speed limits ;-). I treat them as recomanded minimums. (unless I am in a residential area where there might be kids playing.) -- [<A HREF="http://counter.li.org"><A HREF="http://counter.li.org</A">http://counter.li.org] Yo Bill! Doo-bee, doo-bee, doo. THE WORD OF GOD IS THE CREATION WE BEHOLD: And it is in this word, which no human invention can counterfeit or alter, that God speaketh universally to man. - Thomas Paine, _The Age of Reason_ [L]et [the charter] be brought forth placed on the divine law, the word of God; let a crown be placed thereon, by which; the world may know, that so far as we approve of monarchy, that in America the law is king. - Thomas Paine, *Common Sense*, February 14th, 1776 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Michael Lankton wrote:
Leon McClatchey wrote:
Steven T. Hatton wrote:
I also used xemacs to touch it up. IMHO it is a wonderful tool.
A bit bloated for a text editor for my tastes. I realize that emacs is much more than just a text editor, but I prefer Visual Slick Edit for programming and vi for text editing.
What would you recommend for writing letters:-) I've fell a bit behind on my Land Mail since I've been playing with Linux and this little network I've got going here:-) When I was using OS/2 on a more regular basis, I used IBM Works which I liked because I could format it (created a template for my letters and then just used that to start a new letter). I also like it because it was very user friendly as far as printing color (which I've yet to do from a Linux application) and importing pictures and things. As far as programming goes, about all I've been doing along those lines is a few scripts which I've found the internal editor for "mc" to be well suited to my needs:-)
Out of courtesy for others you should limit your sig to 4 lines, however you can have the complete King James bible as your sig if you want.
I can dig that, I used to run a BBS (The Twilight Zone) and used to run "Fidonet" mail, and my connection was a long distance connection, needless to say, whatever increased the "bandwidth" increased the "phone bill":-( At any rate, the reason I was wondering, was because I did like an option that I had with pmmail in os/2 (but haven't found a suitable application yet in Linux) was to add taglines at the end of a message. The application I figured would add maybe 2 or 3 addtional lines to the bottom of a message? Meanwhile, I got it work on the Win95 machine, but haven't been able to get it to work on my Linux box. Everytime I send a message out, Netscape sends me a copy unless I specifically go into the address option and remove my name. (Don't have any real affect on anything but my local machines since it sends the copy to the "local user". (At least sendmail is configured properly:-) -- cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Linux User 78912 (Linux Box) - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
What would you recommend for writing letters:-) I've fell a bit behind on my Land Mail since I've been playing with Linux and this little network I've got going
I use Applix. I have used Staroffice, and I like Applix better. I haven't used Wordperfect so I don't know about it. I like wysiwyg word processors for stuff like that. Leon McClatchey wrote: - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
LyX, a quasi-WYSIWYG front-end to LaTeX, is probably your best bet for letters. The LyX developers don't like some aspects of WYSIWYG word processers, hence my use of "quasi." (For instance, LyX automatically takes care of adding spaces between paragraphs and the like, once you've configured it.) It's a different word processor "paradigm" (although I hate this word) altogether. The version of LyX included with 5.2 offers a nice letter template. Just fill in the blanks with your name and address. If you don't need dead-tree hard copies (i.e., you just want to edit e-mail or online documents), check out the editor vi (or its vamped-up, GUI-fied version, VIM 5.1). It sizzles. -- Glenn -- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Michael Lankton wrote:
I use Applix. I have used Staroffice, and I like Applix better. I haven't used Wordperfect so I don't know about it. I like wysiwyg word processors for stuff like that.
I used to use Wordperfect and Wordstar 4 dos. In os2, IBMworks was my favorite. I don't like "Win's Write" at all (Ibmworks spoiled me along those lines). I have thought about Applix, but to tell ya the truth, I haven't got 250 bucks or so to "splurge" on a wordprocessor I don't know enough about. I did think about checking out Staroffice, but there I'm just a little bit limited on disk space:-( But I do like wysiwyg processors, but due to space or whatever, It looks like I'm going to have to learn how to embed latex commands in anything I want to do:-( (Either that or use Netscape Composer to write letters with:-) -- cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey@homemail.com Linux User 78912 (Linux Box) - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
I too went to regester and couldn't find out where? Please, where? Thanks. Leon McClatchey wrote:
Steven T. Hatton wrote:
[Image] Yo Bill! Doo-bee, doo-bee, doo.
How did you get this image and counter registration in your email? I just recently registered myself, but can't find the image (though I do know my number:-) and would like to append it to my signature?
Thanx Loads:-)
-- cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey@homemail.com (Linux Box)
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TEX wrote:
I too went to regester and couldn't find out where? Please, where? Thanks.
<A HREF="http://counter.li.org"><A HREF="http://counter.li.org</A">http://counter.li.org then, just press register. Jürgen -- ========================================== __ _ Jürgen Braukmann e-mail: brauki@cww.de | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb@db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ========================================== /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
<PRE> Thanks again. Juergen Braukmann wrote:
TEX wrote:
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TEX wrote:
I too went to regester and couldn't find out where? Please, where? Thanks.
There is a web site at <A HREF="http://counter.li.org"><A HREF="http://counter.li.org</A">http://counter.li.org which not only lets you register yourself and your machine(s). But will also let you register friends if that is your pleasure. In addition, you can browse that site and find all sorts of interesting statistics:-) And the estimates that I have looked at also uses some pretty plausible formulas and bases. I would recommend taking a gander at the site whether you register or not:-) -- cya l8r Leon McClatchey leonmcclatchey@homemail.com (Win95 Box) - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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